| Eyebanger |
Hi doc |
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| Xtra12 |
Hi Doc |
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| Dan |
hello all |
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| Doc_Samson |
Hi guys |
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| Albe |
hi Doc |
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| WarrenMN |
Do you have that Atlas gazetter book |
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| Doc_Samson |
what are you talking about Warren/ |
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| Albe |
Doc, thanks again for all the great information at the Appleton school |
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| Eyebanger |
No Just got DeLorme Topos |
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| WarrenMN |
OK, 33 45' N |
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| Doc_Samson |
Having fun with 3DField Albe? |
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| WarrenMN |
117 w |
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| Eyebanger |
Tanks |
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| WarrenMN |
thats the east end of it EB, I'm going to jump out for now |
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| Albe |
yes, working on modifying maps to pick out certain areas for spot maps |
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| Eyebanger |
BBL |
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| WarrenMN |
OK, bye |
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| Albe |
will Global Mapper make contour lineslike 3DField |
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| Doc_Samson |
yes but you need 3DField to get the data to GM |
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| Albe |
ok |
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| wheels |
Good evening everybody |
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| WarrenMN |
Sorry Doc, didn't see your question.that lake in California |
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| WarrenMN |
EyeBanger was trying to find it |
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| Doc_Samson |
the mystery lake! |
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| WarrenMN |
the lake that wasn't there |
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| WarrenMN |
Its funny to see how long it takes for things like that to get updated on maps |
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| Doc_Samson |
feel free to ask questions as I have no agenda |
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| Dan |
what are you fishing this year |
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| WarrenMN |
I wonder if PJ is going to make it |
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| Doc_Samson |
All 8 PWT |
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| Albe |
BBL need to add wood to the fire |
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| mp |
I'll just be sitting over here in the corner. Just bought two 332's and am trying to learn how to use them. |
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| WarrenMN |
Bruce, start with out Brian? |
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| Doc_Samson |
I don't know the rules if there are any |
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| BrandonNE |
hey people |
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| Dan |
when starting out, how did you get reconition or expose yourself for attracting sponsors |
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| Doc_Samson |
by winning tournaments and then I approached companies |
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| wheels |
Does you DVD set start out pretty basic and move up from there, or is the even the first one pretty in depth? |
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| Doc_Samson |
The first DVD is basic and advanced |
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| WarrenMN |
There he is |
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| chatman |
hey guys sorry I am late |
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| chatman |
had some connection problems |
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| Doc_Samson |
The first DVD is 80 minutes so I cover a lot |
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| Albe |
back |
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| chatman |
my internet connection is kinda flaky for some reason |
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| Xtra12 |
Lots of good info in both DVDs |
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| WarrenMN |
PJ, maybe you want to introduce Doc to anyone that may not know him |
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| wheels |
I assume the second is all advanced functionality then. |
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| chatman |
yes sure |
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| Doc_Samson |
the 2nd DVD is for computer users |
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| wheels |
Gotcha thanks. |
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| chatman |
everyone please welcome Brucs (Doc) Samson to the chatroom |
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| Dan |
welcome |
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| chatman |
Doc is an expert on electronics and mapping among otheer things.... |
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| WarrenMN |
Bruce, what tournaments have you won |
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| Doc_Samson |
MWC National Championship many years ago |
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| Doc_Samson |
RCL championship and 3 PWT Regionals |
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| chatman |
please give us a rundown of your sponsors Doc |
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| Doc_Samson |
Crestliner, Mercury, Minn Kota, LakeMaster, WaveWackers, Daiwa, Lowrance, E Z Loader Trailers, Northland Tackle, Smooth Moves, Minnesota Marine |
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| Luke_L. |
Hi Doc, i was up at the tournament at Lake of the Woods in the GNWC, and just wanted to say thanks for the helpful seminar |
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| mp |
I have both DVD's. Learned best by using unit and owners manual on water, then watching DVD's. easier for me to understand. |
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| Doc_Samson |
I believe electronics is the most important tool at this time |
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| Doc_Samson |
Of course I bring bait along |
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| chatman |
Doc has put a lot of effort on helping others learn how to use thier electronics to thier fullest capacity |
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| Dan |
whats your favorit way to fish |
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| Albe |
how do you decide what to use, bottom bouncers or snap-weights for spinners |
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| Doc_Samson |
ll methods now that I have the more skill with the many different methods |
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| boomrr |
hey doc how's it going?'01 Champion still running great |
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| Doc_Samson |
good |
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| Oahe_MrL |
Doc,I saw on in-fisherman a while back where you were making your own maps.I understood that you go over a piece of structure, the unit records it, it's then downloaded into your PC and it generates a map.Is that correct? |
| Doc_Samson |
I use snap weights when i want the weight farther away |
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| Doc_Samson |
Oahe yes |
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| Oahe_MrL |
Assuming this is covered in your DVDs? |
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| Doc_Samson |
no only at the classes I give |
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| Doc_Samson |
Maybe in some new DVD |
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| Oahe_MrL |
Can you give a class in my basement?:) |
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| Doc_Samson |
time is the main problem and not many buyers for that level of technology today |
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| Albe |
if you can go to the classes, don't miss them when Doc is doing them in your area, there the greatest |
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| Doc_Samson |
I will do almost anything if the price is right Oahe! |
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| boomrr |
doc, what's the latest on sidefinder technology? |
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| WarrenMN |
Bruce, what towns will you be at for classes |
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| Oahe_MrL |
Doc,Will you be in SD or ND sometime in the future?I live in Mobridge. |
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| Doc_Samson |
I have not studied the side sonar yet |
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| Doc_Samson |
I will be at Fargo ND March 18 |
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| Luke_L. |
how much time do u put in marking and looking for spots versus fishing (or I should say what does your pre fishing techniques consist of) |
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| Doc_Samson |
The Faro classes will include mapping |
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| Doc_Samson |
Fargo |
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| mp |
Any special computer requirements for this advanced stuff? |
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| Doc_Samson |
The first day I look and map alot and then I fish and look the rest of the week |
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| WarrenMN |
WB |
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| Doc_Samson |
Most computers can do it except really old weak ones |
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| boomrr |
what is the fastest speed you use your lowrance to locate fish? |
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| Doc_Samson |
25 mph but you can see fish at 30 but it is too hard to navigate |
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| boomrr |
what are the relevant settings for optimum speed location |
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| Luke_L. |
does that have a negative long term effect on your unit |
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| Doc_Samson |
high sensitivity and 100% ping speed |
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| boomrr |
that's it? |
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| Doc_Samson |
you can even go 100% sensitivity |
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| Doc_Samson |
blue background and 80% colorline sometimes |
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| Doc_Samson |
no long term adverse affects Luke |
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| chatman |
doc any trandsucer mounting tips? |
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| Doc_Samson |
I use Lowrance and do it exactly as the manual describes to get high speed readings |
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| Luke_L. |
Doc, i wasnt here at the beginning when you were talking about your dvd.In short, what do they cover? |
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| mp |
off to work-- bye |
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| Doc_Samson |
DVD Part 1 basics to advanced. I go thru every menu and setting,and a little on Map |
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| kman |
should i put a x-25 on myconsole for mapping and sonar or should I go with two units ,a 332c for mapping and a 102c for sonar |
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| Doc_Samson |
create and SonarViewer |
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| Doc_Samson |
Part 2 is MapCreate SonarViewer, sorting waypoints by lake and more |
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| boomrr |
how much for a 102c |
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| kman |
499.oo |
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| Doc_Samson |
I would pick the x-25 because you have 2 card slots |
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| boomrr |
or buy two 332's |
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| boomrr |
backup gps and backup sonar |
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| Doc_Samson |
You can haveaLakeMaster or Navionics on one side and a blank one for recording on the other side |
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| boomrr |
only 150 dollars more than the 102c |
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| Doc_Samson |
2 332 would be a good choice |
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| APowell |
Can you run the information off the Navionics chip and lake master at the same time for the same state? |
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| Doc_Samson |
I tried it once and it worked and the next time it wouldn't |
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| Xtra12 |
Wuoldnt work for me |
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| Doc_Samson |
I was fishing so I gave up easily! |
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| Luke_L. |
lol |
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| APowell |
:) |
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| Doc_Samson |
I did it with the split screen maps |
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| chatman |
ho Bob |
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| APowell |
Is it possible to use a chip on a 104C and see it on a 3500C without buying 2 chips? |
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| chatman |
doc have ya talked about your seminars yet? |
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| Doc_Samson |
no |
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| Doc_Samson |
seminars also no |
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| Luke_L. |
Doc, whats your favorite type of system to fish, great lakes, rivers, resvoirs, etc. |
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| chatman |
I want to make sure everyone is aware of them |
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| Doc_Samson |
Sonar, GPS, and Mapping Sat March 11, 2006Fox Valley Technical College ò 1825 N. Bluemound Drive ò P.O. Box 2277 Appleton, WI 54912-2277 ò (920) 735-5600 ò 1-800-735-3882 8:30-4:30 |
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| WarrenMN |
and Doc has a web site |
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| chatman |
please tell us about the seminars |
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| Doc_Samson |
Cabela's Prairie du Chien Great Outdoor Days. 3 seminars March 12, 2006. Seminar times: 9:00 a.m., 11:00 a.m., and 2:00 p.m. |
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| Doc_Samson |
MWC Tournament Saginaw Bay HoyleÆs Marina Wed August 16, 2006 Understanding Sonar 5:30-8:15 Thurs August 16, 2006 GPS and Mapping 5:30-8:15 |
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| chatman |
oh wow you are coming to Michigan? |
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| boomrr |
costs on the seminars? |
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| Doc_Samson |
The Lowrance School covers sonar, GPS and mapping plus interpeting the display |
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| Doc_Samson |
Michigan no |
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| chatman |
i dont understand you said saginaw bay |
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| Doc_Samson |
costs nothing at Cabela's, Fox I am not sure as they are charging, MWC no charge |
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| Doc_Samson |
Lowrance School $100 Mapping Class $100 if you go to both the same day $150 |
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| Doc_Samson |
Saginaw yes |
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| Luke_L. |
do you ever record these seminars |
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| Doc_Samson |
not yet |
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| chatman |
I will email you about saginaw |
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| Doc_Samson |
Tghe schedule is at www.hightechfishing.com |
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| Xtra12 |
Saginaw seminar part of the tournament? |
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| boomrr |
what would you say is the most underused feature of lowrance units? |
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| Doc_Samson |
all the seminars will be at www.hightechfishing.com |
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| boomrr |
that people should be using |
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| Doc_Samson |
MWC is providing the seminars as part of the tournament |
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| Doc_Samson |
log chart data ifunction is the most under used |
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| chatman |
probably most misunderstood too |
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| Doc_Samson |
I think I have convinced Albe |
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| boomrr |
what units all have this feature? |
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| Doc_Samson |
The Lowrance School explains why you need to record |
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| Doc_Samson |
all sonar/GPS models |
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| Doc_Samson |
I have some step by step instruction free on hightechfishing.com and I explain them in the Part 1 DVD |
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| boomrr |
do you follow thermal imaging? |
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| Doc_Samson |
for surface temp? |
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| Albe |
convinced!!!! |
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| boomrr |
yes |
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| Doc_Samson |
I have looked alittle |
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| boomrr |
do you think this will ever be a feature of a lowrance unit |
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| Doc_Samson |
Maybe I can give Warren some more work! |
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| WarrenMN |
no comment |
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| Doc_Samson |
Yes it could be |
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| Albe |
do you ever take a temperature profile when you first go out on a lake? |
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| chatman |
lol wa |
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| Doc_Samson |
I believe what we are using is just the beginning |
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| Doc_Samson |
What do you mean by temp profile? |
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| Albe |
using a temp. probe to see what the water temps. are at different depths |
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| Doc_Samson |
email how it will help catch fish and I will use it |
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| Doc_Samson |
ot type it here if it is simple |
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| boomrr |
thermoclines |
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| Doc_Samson |
you can see those with sonar |
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| WarrenMN |
Do you use surface temp more to determine where you are going to fish. |
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| boomrr |
i know |
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| Doc_Samson |
use high sensitivity to see thermoclines |
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| Albe |
I use it to find the thermocline in summer becuse I find walleyes relating ti structures just above and below the thermocline |
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| boomrr |
i'm surprised the cant translate that into some sort of sonar thermometer |
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| chatman |
does it show up as a line or what |
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| Doc_Samson |
yes |
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| chatman |
i have seen it befor when salmon fishing |
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| Doc_Samson |
low sensitivity won't display thermoclines well |
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| Albe |
sometimes I have found mini(not much change in temp.) that does not show up on a sonar |
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| Doc_Samson |
walleyes like thermoclines as do most fish |
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| Doc_Samson |
that is a good reason |
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| chatman |
how do you adjust your sensitivity, do you turn it up until the sceeen is fukk of interference then back it off till it just disappears? |
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| Luke_L. |
thanks for info doc, gotta go, have a good night |
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| chatman |
opps full LOL |
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| boomrr |
lol |
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| boomrr |
full you to |
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| Doc_Samson |
I turn mine up and ignore the clutter.All the stuff is not interference but small targets |
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| chatman |
oh ok |
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| boomrr |
100 percent all the time? |
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| Doc_Samson |
close I hate clean screen with just the botom and no clutter as I am used to it |
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| Doc_Samson |
You see more with higher sensitivity |
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| boomrr |
can you distinguish a walleye on your sonar? |
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| Doc_Samson |
a little |
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| boomrr |
me too |
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| Doc_Samson |
mostly by its position in the water column for the lake |
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| Doc_Samson |
your sonar screen just displays the stength and distance of the returning echo so anything can look like a fish |
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| chatman |
doc when you are doing a sonar log, do you always use the highest data setting? |
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| Doc_Samson |
remember that the sonar is dumb and your brain interpets the display not the unit |
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| Oahe_MrL |
didn't bottom line make a unit that was supposed to distinguish fish based on their air bladders? |
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| Doc_Samson |
I record on highest because I like quality recordings |
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| Oahe_MrL |
I think they called it species select"." |
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| chatman |
hi big |
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| bigfish1965 |
Allo |
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| Doc_Samson |
I don;t believe you can identify fish because all the display does is show the strength of the returning echo at that instant |
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| Oahe_MrL |
It's like a dog that only points roosters. |
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| Doc_Samson |
yes |
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| boomrr |
you can tell by colors |
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| Doc_Samson |
unless roosters smell different! |
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| Doc_Samson |
color is just a way of showing different strengths of echoes |
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| Doc_Samson |
jigs look like fish |
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| boomrr |
couldnt that relate to a different type of air bladder? |
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| Doc_Samson |
the skin, bone etc also return echoes |
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| chatman |
well guys the hours is almost up |
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| chatman |
please get the last of your questions in for Doc |
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| Oahe_MrL |
How long before we have trolling motors that follow map lines, being we have them that follow depths now? |
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| Doc_Samson |
the size of the air bladder increases as the fish gets bigger so that changes |
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| Doc_Samson |
I think it is possibe to follow map lines as they could put position points on the lines and have the trolling motor navigate from waypoint to wpt |
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| Doc_Samson |
someday! |
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| Oahe_MrL |
it'd be nice to make your own maps and then have it automatically follow your map lines. |
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| bigshooter |
can you outline a specific contour then tracbac using the troller? |
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| Doc_Samson |
yes I would be on that in a second |
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| Oahe_MrL |
I get dibs. |
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| Doc_Samson |
I don't understand the question |
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| Oahe_MrL |
I get the first one. |
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| boomrr |
oahe mrl are you from SD |
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| Oahe_MrL |
yeah, live in mobridge |
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| bigshooter |
drive over it with using you mapping then set the track back? |
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| boomrr |
is that ntc going to end up in pierre |
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| Oahe_MrL |
not sure |
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| chatman |
well guys our time is up |
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| Albe |
BBL wood time |
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| Doc_Samson |
your trolling motor would have to be able to follow the track |
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| Oahe_MrL |
thanks doc! |
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| boomrr |
i hope they dont schedule that on july 23-25 like theyre talking |
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| bigshooter |
thanks |
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| Doc_Samson |
you are all welcome |
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| GJ |
Thanks Doc and Good Luck in 2006 clap clap clap clap |
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| boomrr |
thanks doc |
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| Xtra12 |
Thanks Doc |
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| chatman |
Doc you are welcome to stick around and finish up the questions if you like |
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| Doc_Samson |
I will stay for a few minutes |
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| boomrr |
to coincide with oahe days |
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| chatman |
we really appreciate you taking the time to be with us tonight |
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| bigshooter |
what are the trollers and gps capable of doing together? |
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| chatman |
thanks everyone I gotta run be good |
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| GJ |
nite CM |
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| Doc_Samson |
I ahve a TR-1 which is an autopilot on my kicker that will navigate to waypoints |
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| WarrenMN |
Thats it GJ, TR-1 |
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| WarrenMN |
couldn't think of it |
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| GJ |
ok W |
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| GJ |
that a auto pilot |
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| bigshooter |
the network between gps unit and troller is not capable of doing that though? |
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| Doc_Samson |
for those interested, I can create contours on the water and see my position on them in 5 minutes |
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| Doc_Samson |
what do youmean by troller? |
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| bigshooter |
bowmount |
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| Doc_Samson |
not that I know |
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| Fishnmagician |
Doc, any plans to fish Vermilion...northern MN this summer? |
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| Doc_Samson |
it would be a must have |
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| Doc_Samson |
no Vermillion in the plans |
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| bigshooter |
what is the hype with the nmea for than? concerning ap trollers? |
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| Doc_Samson |
I don't know. I use the NMEA to run my TR-1 from my Lowrance GPS |
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| Doc_Samson |
Maybe I am missing something? |
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| Doc_Samson |
one more question |
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| WarrenMN |
Hey Bruce |
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| bigshooter |
lol, i am just getting into the tech stuff i'm not sure what does what exactly yet.thanks again doc. |
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| WarrenMN |
you remember that big fish that some one caught by the kid the same day as th e last day of the tournament |
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| Doc_Samson |
yes |
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| WarrenMN |
Oahe_MrL, was that your kid |
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| WarrenMN |
his friend |
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| Oahe_MrL |
yeah, he a friend had to tag team it |
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| Albe |
back |
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| WarrenMN |
He's related to Gary |
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| Oahe_MrL |
cranked it up on lead core, too much weight with 6 colors and 9# of fish for one to crank in. |
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| WarrenMN |
I thought that was great.The pro's would have killed for that fish |
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| Doc_Samson |
you can email me off hightechfishing.com if you have anymore questions good nightGO FISHING THE CLOCK IS TICKING |
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| Fishnmagician |
g'nite Doc |
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| Oahe_MrL |
they were pretty pumped.the pwt pros were really cool too - shook their hands - made them feel pretty big |
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| WarrenMN |
night |
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| Albe |
night |
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| GJ |
nite Doc |
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