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"Doc" Bruce Samson 01.28.09 by Bruce Samson
 

"Doc" Bruce Samson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Doc" Bruce Samson Chat Transcript for 2009-01-28

 Juls  OK...Let's get this party started! Welcome everyone! Our Host tonight is Bruce "Doc" Samson!
 Juls  Doc, why don't you start out by giving everyone a brief bio of yourself....
 Bruce Samson  The Doc who went fishing
 Bruce Samson  But I learned I like teaching and it pays the bills and buys the minnows.
 Juls  Here are some links for everyone to check out if your questions are not answered in the next hour...Doc's a slow typist. :)
 Juls  http://www.hightechfishing.com
 Juls  docbrucesamson@msn.com is his email
 Juls  What was the biggest win you
 Bruce Samson  I will answer any question by email after the chat if needed
 Juls  what was the biggest win you've had in your history of tournament fishing?
 Bruce Samson  RCL 2002 of course as it funded my career change
 Juls  How did you win that tournament?
 Bruce Samson  362,000 because I also won a PWT.
 Bruce Samson  maybe someday the prizes will be big again
 Juls  awesome Doc! How did it feel to win something that big?
 twobearlake  Hi everyone!
 Bruce Samson  Winning is not as enjoyable as expected because of the lack of sleep and mental fatigue
 twobearlake  Hi everyone!
 moreyes  Hi Doc, Kirt here
 Bruce Samson  Hi Kirt and all the others.
 Juls  Ok,, let's open it up to the rest of the guys...feel free to jump in everyone....I'll shut up now...heheh
 Bruce Samson  clock is ticking, ask questions
 Juls  let's talk about something near and dear to your heart Doc...electronics!
 Juls  Anyone have an questions for the Master Of Lowrance?
 moreyes  Dr Depth and Humminbrd do they work together
 Bruce Samson  yes a little we have a nice thread on the electronic forum going on it
 moreyes  I will check it out
 Juls  what are some of the coolest things you can do with your units Doc?
 albe  Per sure set up the editing in DrDepth that makes it allot easier for me now
 Bruce Samson  Finding secret fishing spots is the best
 moreyes  Anymore DVDs coming out?
 albe  what did you think of the latest update?
 Juls  I know you take a laptop out in your boat too...care to tell us what you do with it?
 Bruce Samson  I am working on a HDS DVD now as I have one in the house!
 Bruce Samson  Al DrDepth editing is nice
 modog  The new Lowrance digital units can be connected to an analog unit via ethernet, right? Does the new unit revert back to analog to 'talk' to the older one? In other words, sacrificing the digital advantage?
 moreyes  I really got allot out of info out of your last one
 Bruce Samson  The laptop in the boat is amazing. Some of you have seen it.
 .Steve-In.  if using 2 GPSs how far apart should antennas be Doc?
 Bruce Samson  I don't know on the antennas.
 Juls  For those who may not know...what exactly is Dr. Depth? What does it do?
 Bruce Samson  As far as I know the HDS will display the same sonar screen on the LCX models when connected withEtherNet
 Team Clark  Doc, this is George Clark from Thunder Bay, I fished with you at Dryden PWT 07, can you tell us what model of sonar would you recommend on the bow for fishing walleye and smallmouth
 Bruce Samson  DrDepth takes the data from a Lowrance log chart and creates digital depth maps for your Lowrance that look like a LakeMaster map.
 Juls  cool
 Ray Champine  Good evening everyone.
 Bruce Samson  Hi George, any model will work.
 Juls  Hi Ray
 Team Clark  what do you recomend as an all around model
 Bruce Samson  any HDS, screen size is dependent on your pocketbook
 Team Clark  thanks
 twobearlake  What are the advantages of the new HDS units?
 Juls  Hey Doc...someone on the message boards said Lowrance was coming out with a side imaging unit...what do you know about that?
 Team Clark  Doc, I know you are a Lowrance man, but what are your thoughts on side imaging
 Bruce Samson  too many and too much to type, I can summerize in an email if you like
 Bruce Samson  broadband, better maps, the new sonar cursor is much improved
 Juls  someone else said it was simply a 3D imaging...not side imaging...
 moreyes  It is amazing how fast boat electronics are changing, what do you see as the next BIG step?
 Juls  I guess I shouldn't say "simply 3D imaging" cuz that not simple...lol
 albe  Is there flash memory in the new HDS units to put in lcm made maps or do they have to be on a chip?
 Bruce Samson  The new sonar cursor activates the map cursor and you can see on the map wher the position of the soanr cursor is
 Bruce Samson  side imaging or something similiar is coming soon the 3D is the way they display masp and is good
 cjbrown  Doc, high speed searching in 30-45ft. water. What would be your typical settings, ping speed, sensitivity ect. What kind of marks would one expect? Vertical or horizontal lines marking fish?
 Juls  Ok, so they were both right. ;)
 Bruce Samson  The HDS just reads the LCM from the SD card
 Bruce Samson  hi speed ping 100 blue background increase sensitivity and colorline a little and the fish appear as vertical spikes
 albe  Then you need a two card tray to have a lcm chip and a mapping chip in order to have the lcm file over layed on the map
 Bruce Samson  I only have a one slot to test and the LCM overlays the background map which has the hot spots quality map built in
 modog  Should a guy seriously consider the big hard drive units for future needs? I assume there are more 'Plug-n-Play' add ons on the horizon. Anything that hasn't been made public yet? Hints?
 Juls  I hate acronyms...what does LCM stand for? anyone can answer if they know...thanks
 twobearlake  What speed do you drive when you are recording to make a Dr. Depth map? How close do you make each pass over the area you are recording?
 Bruce Samson  There are no more hard drives, the HDS has flash memory.
 Bruce Samson  I never know what is new
 Ray Champine  Doc, I see the new HDS units come with several choices of maps. Which map choice would be recommended?
 albe  lcm is the type of file that DrDepth makes and Lowrance units read
 Bruce Samson  i prefer 6 mph and 50-100 foot passes depending on the slope of the dropoff
 Bruce Samson  pick insight inland
 Eyes_R_Us  Are there some brands of SD card that don't work in Lowrance units?
 Bruce Samson  LCM stands for the format the Lowrance uses in displaying their maps
 Juls  You can ask fishing questions too....he's one of the best, so pick his brain!
 Bruce Samson  Sansdisk is best but most cards work
 Juls  LOL...ok, so you don't know what the letters mean either...just kidding
 davis viehbeck  Doc, what are your thoughts on Universal Sonar vs the transducers included with electronics for rigging at the bow?
 Team Clark  Doc, when slip float fishing, mono or braid, what pound test, thanks
 Bruce Samson  I have used Minn Kota's US2 for 2 years and it works very well for me
 Bruce Samson  I prefre Trilene XT 6 lb for slip bobbers except at Devil's lake tnen I need Fireline to jerk'm
 Juls  You won an event on Devils Lake...what were you doing to win that one?
 Bruce Samson  bottom bouncer and leeches
 Bruce Samson  The fish were deep that year
 620  slip bobber knots actually hold on braid ?
 Bruce Samson  rubber bands work
 twobearlake  good tip!
 620  10-4
 Bruce Samson  on DL you make short casts
 cjbrown  I have had a problem getting spot on structure. I can mark it at idle and turn around and go back to that spot. But at times have had heckuva time finding it, as in wanting to stay on top of it. Any tips?
 Bruce Samson  use the sonar cursor to waypoint the spot or throw a buoy
 Juls  what's the problem davis? why do you keep popping in and out?
 twobearlake  MAybe he is imitating an internal GPS antenna???
 Team Clark  Juls, some guys can fish, some guys know how to log in, and then there are us who can do both
 Juls  hahahah twobear
 Juls  lol clark
 Juls  I want to help him if he's having problems
 davis viehbeck  Sorry guys, bad internet connection tonight for some reason
 Team Clark  just spoke to davis on phone and told hiim to come over to my house
 davis viehbeck  I'm missing all the good discussion between reconnecting
 Juls  oh...sorry to hear that...did you get hit with that ice storm?
 cjbrown  Are you still guiding and doing on the water seminars?
 davis viehbeck  Nope, just fussy wireless
 Juls  i see
 Juls  Doc, you do on the water seminars?? That's a VERY cool idea!
 Bruce Samson  another good part of the HDS for some is that they don't have to use the LowranceNet if they don't want to because of the internal GPS
 Juls  what better way to learn all your computer tricks, eh?
 Hitman  What is your preferred weight system for crawler harness on a board? Keels, snap, other?
 twobearlake  If no one has other elctronics questions, I'm curious to hear Doc's take on Linder's comments regarding livebait vs artificial in tournaments.
 cjbrown  Ya, would love to spend a day on the water going over this technical stuff.
 Bruce Samson  yes I still do 1-2 educational trips on the water each year.
 karma  so what is the answer?? i was dumb enough to believe a salesman and buy a lowrance with internal gps, signal lost and signal aquired game....can i add an external antennae?
 Bruce Samson  I love livebait because of slipbobbers and I think if you eliminate live bait most touranments will be troling
 davis viehbeck  Sorry, I missed the response on universal sonar. How does it compare to factory transducers for bow applications?
 Bruce Samson  US2 compares well by my standards
 davis viehbeck  Thanks
 Bruce Samson  The new HDS is a better internal antenna than the 522 but you can still add an external
 twobearlake  Glad to hear that US2 works well. Just ordered a new motor with it.
 karma  how is that done?? i dnot see a port for an antennae?
 Bruce Samson  use the LowranceNet port for HDS I am not sure on the 522
 Bruce Samson  I need spell check!
 Team Clark  Doc, do you update to newest Lowrance each year, or sometimes retain a good one for an extra year
 Bruce Samson  The new exteranl anrenna for the HDS will update 5/second and is supposed to be more accurate
 Ray Champine  Is Lowrance going to keep the 520 or 522 around for a couple of years? Kind of setting up a 2 tier system.
 Bruce Samson  I saved a 38c for this year.
 Team Clark  thaks
 Team Clark  the reason why?
 Juls  Don't worry about your spelling Doc...we "get" it. ;)
 mnwalleyeguy  anything interesting covered? I just got on.
 Team Clark  spelling does not affect your fishing
 eyeman_1  Doc, I just got the 38 late last fall and haven't had any chace to really play around. ANy do's and dont's or set up tricks
 Bruce Samson  Once the 520 and 522 are sold out there will be no more. The HDS is their new platform for the future just like the first X15 was.
 twobearlake  How many events will you be competing in this year?
 Bruce Samson  no concrete reason to keep it except in case.
 Ray Champine  Thanks. It looks like if I want to update It'll be the HDS then.
 Bruce Samson  set up the 38 like any LCX model
 eyeman_1  only got to use it one day on a river system but it was great. What would you recommend for the bow to interface with the unit
 eyeman_1  a 522
 Bruce Samson  I am waiting for the final AIM schedule to pick my touranments ILike the FLW REd Wing, Leech, and Winnebago
 Juls  :( you no likie Lake Erie?
 Bruce Samson  520 on the bow and LowranceNet so you can save a waypoint on the console and it will be on the bow unit when you drop the TM
 .Steve-In.  how did you like Cass 2 years ago
 Team Clark  yea, braid when in cover
 eyeman_1  thanks Doc. was thinking similarly...still have the X15 on the dash ....just in case
 Bruce Samson  I can't compete on Great Lakes tournament becasue I fsih alone. I love fishing at Erie
 Juls  I see...:)
 Bruce Samson  Cass is easy for me, it is how I was trained to fish. Find them with the maps and sonar and sit on them
 Juls  What is your feeling about the "teams" in tournaments? Do you think it's a big disadvantage to the new competitors who don't fish with teams? Or...??
 twobearlake  When you are fishing a specific "spot on a spot" will you use waypoints or throw a marker?
 Ray Champine  Doc, What is your "go-to crankbait" for trolling on Erie? rapala, Reef Runner, Salmo, etc...
 Bruce Samson  A beginner can not compete against teams
 Bruce Samson  waypoints and marker since each has value
 davis viehbeck  How long will you sit on a spot in tournament situation if you're marking them and not getting them to go?
 Bruce Samson  Salmo, Rapala, ReefRunner
 Juls  good question davis
 Team Clark  he sits just long enough to let Bill St Peter get to the spot he wants, lol, remember that one Doc
 Juls  hahahah
 davis viehbeck  I fish alot more bass tournaments than walleye so my approach is generally run run run, but in walleye it seems that sitting can pay dividends
 Bruce Samson  davis, tough question because it depends on many factors leading up to the decision. If it is a 8 lb spot it takes longer to move!
 Bruce Samson  yes I remeber but he deserved it
 Bruce Samson  sometimes looking for hot fish works in walleye touranments
 Juls  12 minutes left guys...get your questions in!
 Team Clark  Doc, two anchors versus 1 anchor and wind sock?
 Juls  We have a great crowd tonight, but only a few people asking questions...feel free to jump in everyone!
 Bruce Samson  1 anchor if it is big enough and you know
 Team Clark  us Canadians are picking his brain tonight
 davis viehbeck  What are your thoughts on the new biodegradable baits as an alternative to the real thing for presentations like bouncing with spinnger rigs?
 cjbrown  Doc, you do any ice fishing or are just a softy kinda guy?
 Bruce Samson  those baits work well on spinner rigs, years ago I found they worked better than crawlers at Ft Peck
 Bruce Samson  I am lucky, I don't have to ice fsih, I have enough other good choices. and lots of seminars
 Juls  What is your favorite place to fish Doc?
 Bruce Samson  LOTW Canadian side
 Juls  Where is your least favorite?
 Bruce Samson  Bays de Noc because the winning fish are too far away and the boat rides are brutal
 Juls  How many years have you been fishing tournaments?
 twobearlake  Do you still have time for "pleasure" fishing?
 Bruce Samson  22
 Juls  wow
 Juls  that's a long time
 Team Clark  before you were born Juls
 Juls  hahahahah i wish! you're sweet
 Bruce Samson  I pleasure fish when i prefish at tournaments and each fall with my friends.
 Juls  who took you fishing for the first time?
 twobearlake  Glad to hear that.
 cjbrown  I wish you the best of luck in your upcoming season. Off to bed, have a flight to Jamaica in the am. SUNSHINE!
 Juls  awesome...nite nite cj...have a safe trip!
 cjbrown  Thanks for your time
 twobearlake  How did you first break into the tournament scene?
 Bruce Samson  1986 MWC Team of the Year and National Champion and then I was hooked
 Juls  cool
 Bruce Samson  I started in the MWC but I actually fished a Manion's tournament in 1984 or 85
 .Steve-In.  what length rod do you prefer Doc?
 twobearlake  Juls, thanks for setting up this chat. Doc, thanks for taking the time to talk.
 Team Clark  Doc, out in open water on humps, what are your views on walleye chop versus wind direction
 Bruce Samson  8-9 foot bobbers 7 ft rig 6 jig
 davis viehbeck  Doc do you fizz, fin clip, use treatment, ice, add oxygen, etc in tournaments?
 albe  Thanks Juls. You made it happen.
 Bruce Samson  depends on depth of the hump and current so I don't always know fish are also funny at times
 twobearlake  Goodnite all.
 Juls  Thank you Doc for taking time out of your busy schedule to come and chat with us tonight...you did a great job!
 Juls  nite twobear
 Bruce Samson  I use all of what you mentioned
 Bruce Samson  good night
 Ray Champine  Thanks, Doc! Thanks, Juls!
 davis viehbeck  Thanks
 reelxtc  thanks DOC!
 Juls  feel free to stick around as long as you can....we don't have to quit right at 8pm....
 .Steve-In.  clapclap clap
 reelxtc  cool
 .Steve-In.  Ty doc
 Team Clark  thanks Doc, best of luck this year, even though you wont wish anyone good luck if you are competing with them, lol
 Bruce Samson  I have time for a few more questions
 eyeman_1  Thanks Doc
 Juls  it's just the offical log that Scott needs to post on the chat logs page...;)
 Larry Mac  Thanks everyone
 Eyes_R_Us  Tg
 modog  Thanks Doc, for visiting the site and answering so many questions over the year. Have a great season
 eyeman_1  Doc, what part of LOTW on the canadian side do you prefer? I fish up around Big Narrows
 Juls  We have chat hosts lined up for the next month of wednesday nights....so, mark your calendars!
 Eyes_R_Us  Thanks Doc and Juls. My first chat - it was fun!
 Bruce Samson  Morson and I go in all directions from there. I like reef fishing
 eyeman_1  me too...I like bouncers and spinners
 Ray Champine  Doc, I partly vertical jig and partly troll. I'll probably only be able to put one unit on this year. Is it feasible to set up a network and just move the unit as necessary?
 .Steve-In.  Is W still doing maps for you doc
 Bruce Samson  Waren still finds maps for us
 eyeman_1  lol
 .Steve-In.  he's n ice man
 Bruce Samson  Ray you can do it
 Ray Champine  Cool! I can always add on later!
 Juls  Dang dog!! Gotta run everyone...thanks again! I appreciate your participation (even if you didn't talk...heheh) Thanks again Doc! Have a good night everyone. Hope to see everyone again next wednesday night. :)
 Bruce Samson  Ray you will want to power the network with a tee power cable
 eyeman_1  later Juls
 albe  Nite Juls
  This is the end of the scheduled chat, but Doc was still answering questions so I added this to it
 Ray Champine  good night, Juls.
 Team Clark  Doc, what is your boat this year
 Ray Champine  I was thinking about setting upthe dash, so that when trolling (after I get 2 unit) I could run each as full screen.
 Bruce Samson  Crestliner 202 TS again
 albe  How are the maps in Lake Insight in the new units?
 Team Clark  a new one this year, or same as last year
 Bruce Samson  Lake Insight are good, different look to them. You can get a feel of the lake better but they are not high definiton like Lakemaster.
 blueranger  wow hello fisherman
 Bruce Samson  new Crestliner
 620  doc, i'm looking at a new 525c, on Ebay, is that a good one to network on the bow with a 27, if so what would be a good deal.
 Team Clark  thanks Doc for sharing your thoughts with us, much appreciated
 Bruce Samson  It is a good choice but you get the wrong transducer. You don't want dual frequency as it is for salt water.
 albe  If I have a Navionics chip in a one chip unit like the HDS 5 or 7, is there any way I can put in a map from DrDepth?
 .Steve-In.  hi bb
 albe  Hi Bill
 bill-brown(Ind)  hi all
 Bruce Samson  Al I don't know yet. I will find out when i get my HDS 8.
 blueranger  hi bill, busy night. should of wore a tie
 Eyebanger(OH)  Hi bill
 bill-brown(Ind)  hi Jerry
 Eyebanger(OH)  Ice or snow?
 bill-brown(Ind)  over with now, got about 10-12 in
 620  ok, i would just network it in and use existing ducer , yes?
 Bruce Samson  good night if you have any questions later docbrucesamson@msn.com
 .Steve-In.  ty doc
 albe  Nite Doc
 .Steve-In.  have a good night
 Bruce Samson  620 yes but you will want a 200 kHz transducer in the bow.

 


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