* ebijack-  Please Welcome our host tonight DAVE KIDD...."eyetaker" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* river king-  welcome dave
* Dan (MI)-  Clap Clap Clap
* eyetaker-  thanks
* ebijack-  dave, how did you get started with hookhider rods?
* eyetaker-  I met the owners of HOOKHIDER at the ASA Icast show in Chicago
* eyetaker-  last june
* ebijack-  dave, how long before the hookhider rods are available locally
* eyetaker-  its one of those products that catch the eye, no pun intended
* ebijack-  :)
* eyetaker-  Were getting distribution now
* Dan (MI)-  Working on that now!!!!!!!!!!
* ebijack-  dave, are you using hookerhider rods only? even for trolling
* eyetaker-  but they are available direct from the net and from the reps also
* eyetaker-  I use HH exclusively
* ebijack-  the net? you have a web address
* river king-  what makes them a better rod dave
* eyetaker-  , i designed a trolling rod for them
* eyetaker-  www.hookhider.com
* eyetaker-  number one is their strength
* Dan (MI)-  Tom I will have a few of them at MWT this weekend if 
you'd like to see them
* eyetaker-  2nd is their sensitivity and 3rd of course is their price
* ebijack-  are you sponsored by them dan?
* river king-  whats the price
* Dan (MI)-  I'm working for Dave. Mich. Rep
* eyetaker-  yes Dan is sponsored and is our MI rep
* ebijack-  are the rods custom made to order?
* eyetaker-  no, they are production rods
* ebijack-  how about both of you putting up your e-mails for folks to contact you
* eyetaker-  eyetaker@raex.com
* ebijack-  what is the average price of rods
* eyetaker-  Probably the most important feature is the grip
* ebijack-  are the rods IM6 or IM8
* eyetaker-  , no other brand can eliminate tangles and snags
* eyetaker-  in the carpet and such
* eyetaker-  they are both, our Gold series is Im6 and our Pro series is IM8
* ebijack-  will the rods handle all cranks?
* eyetaker-  all bass and walleye cranks
* ebijack-  in the handle that is
* eyetaker-  we are not pursuing the big game market at this time
* ebijack-  will the rods be available thru cabelas and bass pro in the future?
* eyetaker-  yes, most average hook sizes will fit
* eyetaker-  To be honest, we aren't sure whether we want to go that route 
* ebijack-  are the rods available in everything from UL to H action?
* eyetaker-  yes we currently have 19 models of IM6 and will have 10 models of IM8
* ebijack-  when do the IM8's come out
* eyetaker-  in warehouse by months end
* ebijack-  dave, do you ship the rods out or do you contact the 
manufacture for shipping
* eyetaker-  they are shiped from National warehouse Hub
* eyetaker-  our rep group does carry a few models with us though :)
* ebijack-  dave, do you have catalogs to show at all the tourney's you fish?
* Bill (WI)-  I've been using the rod quite a bit also... happy to show 
anyone in WI the rods
* eyetaker-  yes, I always carry a number of catalogs
* ebijack-  what's the average price range dave
* eyetaker-  HH is the official rod sponsor of the PTW and Team Walleye circuits
* eyetaker-  average for the IM6 is 49.95
* ebijack-  what do you like best about your rod bill
* eyetaker-  Im8 is 69.95
* ebijack-  that's a good price!
* Bill (WI)-  The special grip lets you have your rods ready to fish when you get there
* Bill (WI)-  You just pull them out of the rod locker with no snagups and go
* Dan (MI)-  I like the long foam grip on the planer rod, excellent leverage.
* eyetaker-  and the EVA foam stands up to the rod holders
* ebijack-  do they come in either foam or cork?
* eyetaker-  Trolling series is foam
* eyetaker-  spin and cast is cork
* ebijack-  how long have you been using them dave
* eyetaker-  since last July
* ETT-  what's the preferred bouncer rod Dave: length and cost
* eyetaker-  the company is only 1 1/2 years old
* ebijack-  what's the length added to a normal rod for the hider part
* eyetaker-  for bouncers I would choose the 6'6"-7'0 in the med or MH Jim
* eyetaker-  about $50.00
* ETT-  thanks
* Bill (WI)-  Just had tourney on Winnebego, have a guide who wants the rods now also
* eyetaker-  no added length , the conversion grip fits over the blank
* ebijack-  so a 7th rod is still a 7 ft rod?
* eyetaker-  sold several of the guides on Leech last week
* eyetaker-  yes
* Bill (WI)-  Retail is well below anything comparable and action is great
* eyetaker-  depends on bouncer weight Jim
* ebijack-  dave, there's also a converstion kit to add hookhider to present rods?
* eyetaker-  yes it will work on most blank-through design
* eyetaker-  sells for $10
* ETT-  how has the customer service been ? Any complaints?
* ebijack-  what does that take to convert another rod
* eyetaker-  I know of 2 over the past year, I think that says it all
* ETT-  guarantee??
* eyetaker-  5 yr limited
* ETT-  prorated?
* eyetaker-  nope
* ETT-  cool
* eyetaker-  replacement
* ebijack-  dave, are there rods designed for bass fishing as well?
* ebijack-  and what about salmon rods
* eyetaker-  you have to cut the cork back to expose the blank, then you measure how much blank to cut and then fit the cgrip collar over the blank and glue
* eyetaker-  yes ebi, they apply to bass as well
* ebijack-  what type of glue is used?
* eyetaker-  epoxy
* eyetaker-  2-part
* ebijack-  dave, do you know how many guides are on the 6.5ft rods?
* eyetaker-  no salmon/steelhead rods as of yet
* eyetaker-  now your gonna make me count
* ebijack-  but plans are to produce salmon rods?
* ebijack-  :)
* ebijack-  jump in anytime dan :)\
* eyetaker-  sometime, not yet though
* eyetaker-  this is amusing
* Dan (MI)-  8 guides on 7ft and 7 o the 6 1/2 ft rods
* eyetaker-  there ya go
* ebijack-  how does the weight of the rods compare to other rods of equal lengths
* Dan (MI)-  My wife and I had a great time getting gills with the 5 1/2 ft ultralights the other day
* eyetaker-  lighter than the comparatively priced rods
* eyetaker-  slightly heavier than a loomis etc
* ebijack-  what are the rod seats made of
* eyetaker-  gold stainless reinforced graphite
* eyetaker-  the grip is glass-filled nylon
* ebijack-  are all the rods the same color
* ebijack-  is bill with hookhider too?
* eyetaker-  the Im6 are gloss brown and the IM8 are matte dk green
* eyetaker-  yep WI rep
* eyetaker-  lol
* ebijack-  how many reps does hookhider have?
* eyetaker-  just our group
* eyetaker-  7 currently
* ebijack-  if i ordered rods from dan this week, how long before delivery?
* eyetaker-  typically 4 days
* Dan (MI)-  Just let me know Tom, and if you have a dealer you
would like to see carry them let me know.
* ebijack-  it's tough to buy any rod you can't hold/feel
* Dan (MI)-  if you want to look at them meet me at Monroe Fri-Sat-Sun
* ebijack-  is that at bolles dan?
* Dan (MI)-  Yes
* Dan (MI)-  Ok, I'll be the only one there in White Spectrum boat Tan Dodge with cap
* ebijack-  how does hookhider plan on getting out to the average fisherperson about these rods?
* eyetaker-  we've had excellent response from our ads in Walleye insider and others
* ebijack-  how about advertising on walleyecentral and the walleyecentral mag?
* eyetaker-  we do
* eyetaker-  we have a banner on the products page
* ebijack-  ok,..i must have missed it. once i saw the rods at the silverdome show i knew about them
* eyetaker-  yeah he got them out to the public a good bit in MI
* ebijack-  what other advantages have you found to the rods
* Dan (MI)-  Very sensitive especially with Fireline
* ebijack-  dave, do you know the modulus numbers?
* eyetaker-  apart from eliminating tangles, I am not nearly as concerned about breakage because of their strength and if I should get careless and slam them in a door, they are economical to replace
* eyetaker-  40M - Im6 46M - Im8
* ebijack-  any other questions for our host tonight?
* ebijack-  I'd like to Thank DAVE KIDD, and DAN and BILL for
hosting tonight!
* ebijack-  clap clap clap
* eyetaker-  clap clap lol, thanks guys
* ebijack-  thanks guys
* Dan (MI)-  Thanks talk to you all later. clap clap clap