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SureFish Lures 6/23/99

[19:58:28] ebijack: Please Welcome our host tonight "FUNPIG" MIKE KLEINEIDER


[19:58:40] river king mi: hi mike

[19:58:44] ebijack: clap clap clap

[19:58:45] Buc: clap clap clap clap

[19:58:48] Juls (WI): clap clap clap

[19:58:52] Funpig: Hi all

[19:58:57] Drift'r: Hi Mike

[19:59:11] ebijack: mike, how about telling us a bit about yourself and your lures

[19:59:15] Juls (WI): tell us about yourself mike.....i don't know you

[19:59:19] Juls (WI): :-)

[19:59:21] Funpig: Thanks for joining this site.

[19:59:30] Funpig: Let's all have fun.

[19:59:34] Juls (WI): wouldn't miss it

[19:59:59] river king mi: lots of info on here

[20:00:05] Funpig: Juls How the fishing where you live?

[20:01:02] Juls (WI): Well, we fish winnebago mostly and the fishing is slow right now

on the big lake but the fish should be moving from the upper lakes soon....the mud bite

will turn on when the H2O temp comes up a bit...they are there just not hitting

[20:01:08] river king mi: are you a fisherman mike

[20:01:50] Funpig: Have any of you  heard about sure fish?

[20:01:58] ebijack: nope

[20:01:59] river king mi: not me

[20:02:09] Buc: Mike: Ebi said something about lures- what's up?

[20:02:11] Juls (WI): sure fish???? is there such a thing?

[20:02:12] Funpig: Riv, I fish when I get a chance.

[20:02:25] Juls (WI): what do you do funpig?

[20:02:37] Juls (WI): for a living?

[20:02:42] Funpig: Juls, I make a fishing lure named sure fish.

[20:02:48] Juls (WI): ohhhhh ic

[20:02:56] river king mi: tell us about it

[20:03:02] ebijack: is it the only lure you manufacture?

[20:03:03] Funpig: Jul, Its my night job.

[20:03:06] Juls (WI): never heard of it....what is it exactly?

[20:03:43] Funpig: Jul, I manuf. the lures in 2 sizes and 3 diff. weights

[20:03:53] Juls (WI): what does it look like?

[20:04:02] river king mi: what kind of lure is it

[20:04:12] Juls (WI): what does it do?

[20:04:13] Funpig: Its a cross between a rapala & a flat fish

[20:04:25] Juls (WI): rapala i know....what is a flat fish?

[20:04:38] river king mi: do you sell a lot of them

[20:04:51] Funpig: It resembles a minnow in the water

[20:04:59] Buc: Is "sure fish " the baits name or manufactued name?

[20:05:04] Juls (WI): oh ok...i think i know what this is now....

[20:05:06] Funpig: Riv, I sold about 25000 of them.

[20:05:10] Juls (WI): cool

[20:05:18] ebijack: is it wood or plastic and do you carve them or pour them or inject

them mike

[20:05:31] Funpig: Buc, Sure fish is the trade mark.

[20:05:31] river king mi: havent seen them in michigan

[20:05:51] Funpig: Ebi, It's an injection molded plastic.

[20:06:03] Buc: Funpig is there a web site?

[20:06:14] Funpig: Riv,  I only sold them in escabana Michigan

[20:06:17] ebijack: what plans do you have to expand on size/color etc mike

[20:06:32] Funpig: Buc, It's sold under Walleye Central product

[20:06:57] Buc: cool i'll check it out later

[20:07:12] Juls (WI): what kind of results do you have? any proven fish catches from

this lure? might not have said that right but i think you get the jist of my question?

[20:07:24] Funpig: Ebi, I might make a larger model for the ocean, but right now the

fresh water sizes work well.

[20:08:03] ebijack: what kind of depth on a regular cast and what depth for trolling


[20:08:12] Juls (WI): good question ebi

[20:08:23] Funpig: Juls, Jimmy Klick won #8 in the pwt last year using one of them and

send me a testimony

[20:08:35] Juls (WI): cool....:-)

[20:08:37] Buc: what's the hot colors (most popular) Mike

[20:08:49] Funpig: Eb, On a regular cast between 4 to 6 feet on a normal retrieve

[20:08:57] Juls (WI): nice

[20:09:10] Juls (WI): any wobble or rattle in this lure?

[20:09:15] ebijack: what kind of weight mike and how long?

[20:09:29] Funpig: Buc, For walleye is fire tiger, blue-silver and chartreuse

[20:09:37] Drift'r: how does it troll

[20:09:46] Juls (WI): you got that right for bago anyway!  where do i get one?

[20:09:49] Juls (WI): hehehehe

[20:09:55] Buc: 4 to 6 ' Is that about 8 LB test Mike?

[20:10:03] Funpig: Jul, the lure wobble erratically and has a slit rattle.

[20:10:33] Juls (WI): sounds good mike

[20:10:41] Funpig: Drift, You have to troll them separated so the don't tangle.

[20:10:50] river king mi: do you live in u. p. mike

[20:10:52] ebijack: mike, are you planing on selling the lure to any major manufacture?

[20:11:06] Funpig: Jul, They are available on Walleye Central

[20:11:18] Drift'r: what is the max speed they can be trolled

[20:11:26] Funpig: Buc, That is about 6-8 test line

[20:11:35] Funpig: Riv, In colorado

[20:12:10] Funpig: eb, Not planning to sell to any major manuf. cause that would take

the fun away.

[20:12:23] ebijack: how long have you been producing these lures mike, and did you

come up with the design?

[20:12:32] Buc: why plastic and not wood Mike?

[20:12:45] Funpig: Drif, Troll them fast enough so that they wobble erratically.

[20:13:08] river king mi: whats the cost per lure

[20:13:16] Funpig: Eb, 12 years and came up with an improved design.

[20:13:28] Funpig: Buc, Plastic because of durability

[20:13:35] ebijack: mike, are you sponsoring any other walleye pro's?

[20:13:56] Funpig: Riv, $3.49 and $3.99

[20:14:24] river king mi: not a bad price compared to rapalas

[20:14:27] Funpig: Eb, Some other pros are trying them now.

[20:14:32] ebijack: what kind of hooks do you put on the lures mike

[20:15:04] ebijack: mike, are the lures called "walleye candy"?

[20:15:19] Funpig: Eb, Laser sharp, Seaguard eagle claw, triple strength

[20:15:26] Buc: where is your largest market? Mike

[20:15:48] Funpig: Eb, Only the Walleye call them candy, I don't

[20:15:53] Juls (WI): lol

[20:16:08] Funpig: Buc, Probably Wisconsin

[20:16:37] ebijack: mike, how did you find a place to inject your product?

[20:17:04] Funpig: Ebi, I use the reference of a friend I could trust

[20:17:30] ebijack: mike, do you hand paint each one?

[20:17:44] Buc: are the hooks insert molded or screwed in later?

[20:17:48] fishman: Thanks Funpig. You are a GOD among us mere mortals!

[20:17:53] Juls (WI): lol

[20:17:55] Funpig: Ebi, Yes they are hand painted by a little cottage industry

[20:18:13] Juls (WI): I have to get some of these....to try

[20:18:24] Funpig: Buc, Attached with a split ring later

[20:18:29] Juls (WI): im curious...could be a good thing on Winnebago

[20:18:39] Funpig: Fish, I just lucky, not a God.

[20:18:59] Ephemera: Funpig> what do you call these wobblers??

[20:19:15] Funpig: Ep, Sure fish

[20:20:37] Buc: How did you get started in baits mike?

[20:20:51] Funpig: Jul, I have a lot of good memories fishing at lake Winnegabo

[20:21:12] Juls (WI): are you from colorado originally? or from around here?

[20:21:12] Funpig: Buc, I always like fishing.

[20:21:17] ebijack: what waters did you try these baits out on mike

[20:21:29] Funpig: Jul, I was born in Wisconson

[20:21:47] Juls (WI): yea!!  your cool mike...hehehehe

[20:21:56] Funpig: Ebi, I tried these baits in several states.

[20:22:13] ebijack: mike, do you troll them mostly?

[20:22:35] Juls (WI): I will try on bago and let you know how they work for me

[20:22:59] Funpig: ebi, I had a mentor who was a perfectionist and made me test them

for 2 years before putting on the market

[20:23:03] Juls (WI): maybe it will be the magic bait...???

[20:23:17] Juls (WI): good thinking mike

[20:23:18] ebijack: mike, how wide is the wobble since you mentioned on how you

have to keep them apart

[20:24:35] Funpig: Ebi, If trolling, they may wobble 4-5 feet.

[20:24:48] Juls (WI): bottom walk too???  they are sinking lures?

[20:25:11] Buc: How many designs to get it right mike?

[20:25:26] Funpig: Jul, I make both a sinking and a floating models

[20:25:42] Funpig: Buc, 3 and 1/2 years

[20:26:04] Gibby[IL]: Are you talking about crankbaits Funpig?

[20:26:14] Funpig: Gib, Yes we are

[20:26:26] Juls (WI): well better to perfect and sell than to hurry production and not


[20:26:35] ebijack: mike, so what are your plans. are you designing a new lure to go

along with this one?

[20:26:58] Gibby[IL]: My dad and I troll with shad raps for walleye on the mississippi

river and catch the heck out of walleye.

[20:27:01] Funpig: Ebi, They next design will be the ocean model in about 2 more


[20:27:49] Buc: How big? Musky size Mike?

[20:27:50] Funpig: Gib, I was on the Miss River last year between Lacrosse and the St.

Croix River. It's beautiful

[20:28:11] Lundman(Wi): Anyplace to get gander at this lure..??

[20:28:29] Drift'r: paint some musky colors too, Mike

[20:28:34] Funpig: Buc,  1/8 oz & 1/2 oz.

[20:28:42] Juls (WI): do you have this lure in a perch pattern?

[20:28:51] Funpig: Lund, go to Walleye Central under product category

[20:29:01] Funpig: Drif, Good ideas.

[20:29:03] Lundman(Wi): Ok, will do....thanks...

[20:29:14] Buc: the ocean model? How big Mike?

[20:29:17] Funpig: Jul, Yes we have perch

[20:29:22] Juls (WI): goody

[20:29:43] Funpig: Buc, 5 inches long & about 2 oz.

[20:30:03] Buc: Cool Musky size!

[20:30:12] Funpig: Buc, Correction, not sure about the weight yet.

[20:30:29] Juls (WI): have any small ones...say three inches?

[20:30:49] Funpig: Buc, My uncle catches lots of young Musky on the half oz. size.

[20:31:03] Buc: What trolling speeds do you think for the ocean?

[20:31:11] Funpig: Jul, 2 & 3 inches are the size of them.

[20:31:13] ebijack: mike, with that wide of a wobble, does line size make a difference

in how it runs?

[20:31:35] Funpig: Buc, usually trolling fast is more effective

[20:31:54] Funpig: Ebi, Yes it does effect how it runs.

[20:32:04] Juls (WI): ok thanks.....are they in the Precision Trolling book? if not how far

behind a board to get say 5-7 ft down?

[20:32:22] Funpig: Jul, Not in Pro. book.

[20:32:24] Juls (WI): what is fast? over 2?

[20:32:28] ebijack: mike, so a heavier line size decreases the wobble?

[20:32:39] Funpig: Jul, About 50 feet

[20:32:47] Funpig: Jul, Yes over 2

[20:32:49] Juls (WI): thanks...will try it

[20:32:53] Funpig: Ebi, Yes

[20:33:38] ebijack: are there anymore questions for our host tonight?

[20:33:49] Juls (WI): uuummm im thinking

[20:33:57] Funpig: Jul, Where do you do most of your fishing?

[20:33:57] Buc: we're looking for 4 to 5 mile per hour for musky on St Clair, with big

body baits mike

[20:33:58] ebijack: make sure you let us know when you get out new sizes also mike

[20:34:05] Juls (WI): Winnebago

[20:34:46] Drift'r: i like the way you troll , Buc

[20:34:47] Funpig: Buc, The half oz size might work but again are only 3 inches long

[20:35:03] Juls (WI): just spent 30+ hours this past weekend with Rick LaCourse

trolling.......learned much...would like to try your lures

[20:35:05] Funpig: Ebi, We will let you know

[20:35:13] ebijack: i'd like to THANK our host tonight MIKE KLEINEIDER for hosting

tonight !!!

[20:35:24] Drift'r: Thanks Mike!!!!!!!!

[20:35:26] Funpig: Jul, Pick them up on Walleye Central

[20:35:27] Juls (WI): clap clap clap thanks for coming mike.....great chat

[20:35:31] Buc: clap clap clap clap

[20:35:32] Funpig: Ebi, Thanks alot

[20:35:35] Juls (WI): you bet mike i will for sure

[20:35:36] Swat 1(oh): Thanks Mike

[20:35:37] ebijack: thanks mike!!!!

[20:35:37] ebijack: thanks mike!!!!

[20:35:50] Ness: Thanks, Mike

[20:35:51] Buc: thanks mike!!1

[20:36:00] Juls (WI): I live here mike....i will find them...heheheheheh

[20:36:04] Funpig: Juls, Buc, Swat :  THANKS AND GOOD FISHING

[20:36:17] Juls (WI): you too funpig....:-)))

[20:36:38] ebijack: mike , do you have a pic of your lure on walleyecentral?

[20:36:55] Funpig: Sw, Sure.




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