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chatman- Ladies and gentlemen please welcome tonight's guest, Rick "Bigfoot"
Driftr- Welcome Rick !!!!
T-Mac- clap clap clap
Dunn- Welcome Rick!
Juls- clap clap clap clap..welcome
Driftr- clap clap clap!!!
Dunn- Clap Clap Clap
Ness- clap clap clap
Dan(oh);- hello Rick
Bigfoot- This is going to very informal tonight
#1 saugeye- Welcome!
SONARS- clomp clomp
chatman- Well, Rick, where do we want to go tonight?
Bigfoot- for all those that missed the outing we can give a blow by blow
chatman- That would be great, I missed it. So, rub it in.....
Bigfoot- We also have the day one leader with us
Bigfoot- RUB RUB RUB
Driftr- it was awesome
Dunn- Bigfoot, I saw you hand lining on the Fox River during the RCL. How do you think Hand lining will effect the future of fishing on other rivers as it spreads in popularity?
Bigfoot- it was the event of the year
Bigfoot- you have to understand the method
Bigfoot- it is app. 75 years old
chatman- Reports are flying about multiple 10 plus fish, and many people got
their best fish there too
chatman- Right Ness?
Bigfoot- and keeps the bait in front of the fish 100 percent of the time
T-Mac- About how many participated at the "get-together"? all told
Bigfoot- it works esp. well in current
chatman- Hand lining can be a real mess if you are not practiced in the method
Bigfoot- that's what it was designed for
chatman- Can you explain a typical set up Rick?
Bigfoot- but it's very easy to master right Juls
Juls- yes sir...- -)
Dan(oh)- how long have you been a Pro
Bigfoot- there's a very good student
Driftr- Rick, have you ever tried it on the lake?
Driftr- did it work?
Bigfoot- since 94 full time
Juls- any results on a lake or ?
Bigfoot- we used it on LOW and at Lake Sharpe in the back waters
chatman- I remember on my first trips up to Little Bay de Noc, several local anglers hand lined there and I knew a few who hand lined for salmon out off Milwaukee
Bigfoot- a slight variation
Dunn- Bigfoot, What do you think comes into play most often during a Pro Tournament? Patience and taught skill, or Natural Talent?
Bigfoot- all of the above
Dunn- Bigfoot, A Mix of both?
chatman- And a dose of good luck doesn't hurt either!
Juls- - -)
T-Mac- never hurts
Dunn- So true chatman.
Bigfoot- pre-fishing to find and get confidence
Driftr- hungry fish certainly helps too
Chairman- should we have unlimited practice Rick?
chatman- What do you think brought about the no hand lining rule on the PWT
Bigfoot- money, as always
Bigfoot- they heard about it also
Juls- I heard they might bring it back to the PWT next year? that true?
Bigfoot- they may change it back
Juls- that would be nice
Dunn- Bigfoot, Do you support the "Rod lining" method used on Lake Sharpe? Or do you think they should allow Hand lining again?
Bigfoot- but there is going to be another circuit that will allow it
Bigfoot- all rod lining was is a variation of the method
Bigfoot- it's not as efficient and its more tiring than hand lining
Chairman- I think it is harder to master
Bigfoot- yes it is
Juls- I think it would be too....
Dunn- Bigfoot, I know but it follows the current PWT rules. Do you think they should keep the rules the same and hand liners just "Rod line" or should they change the rules to conform to hand lining?
Bigfoot- I can teach my partner to use a hand line faster than rod lining
Driftr- Rick, how do you know when you have a fish hand lining
Bigfoot- there's no doubt about it when they hit
Driftr- I guess I just don't understand it
Bigfoot- I have too get down there soon
Juls- just don't try to set the hook..- -) rip it right out of their mouths..lol
Chairman- you got that down now don't you girl!!
Driftr- Juls , like fireline with boards
Juls- hehehe, yep
chatman- Is it more difficult to land big fish hand lining versus using a
regular rod and reel?
Bigfoot- I mean it's easier with a hand line when you learn how
chatman- Can you explain a typical set up Rick?
T-Mac- Foot...you wear a glove when hand-lining?
Bigfoot- I don't
Bigfoot- you us e60 lb coated wire
Bigfoot- and I get better feel
#1 saugeye- What pound test do you use when hand lining?
Bigfoot- 20 lb leads
chatman- Do you use a snubber?
Bigfoot- the key is figuring out the proper lead lengths for the area your fishing
Bigfoot- I don't some do
Ness- What's a snubber????
Bigfoot- you want to put the bait right in front of the fish
Dunn- Bigfoot, How do you go about trying to find what leader lengths work for certain areas?
chatman- Do you have a basic guideline as to how long the leads should be in
chatman- Beat me to it Dunn LOL....
Dunn- chatman, lol
Bigfoot- a 6 in piece of rubber to take some of the shock off the fish
Driftr- how heavy weight to get down
Bigfoot- in off water you can run shorter leads and there's time in clear water I'll run 40-50
Bigfoot- depends on the depth and current
Dan(oh);- do you use live bait?
Bigfoot- generally 1lb to 1 1/4 lb weights
Driftr- Ebi said people use window weights on the Detroit
Bigfoot- spinners work well with it
Dunn- Bigfoot, I've never seen spinners ran off a hand line setup. Is it run the same as with stick or crank baits?
Driftr- that is why I wondered how you knew a fish was on
Bigfoot- the father of hand lining is with us also Bruce Deshano
Bigfoot- we use them later in the year here
Juls- you sure..he might be playing pool with his dad right now...lol
Bigfoot- most likely
Chairman- I am listening
Bigfoot- but are you hearing
Dan(oh);- what is your favorite way to fish
Juls- - -)
Bigfoot- crank baits
T-Mac- very shallow runners? Rick?
Bigfoot- I lost count of how many fish over ten were caught in Huron last weekend
Chairman- we had 4
Bigfoot- shallow runners on the hand lines
Bigfoot- all stick baits is what I like to run
Driftr- Rick , none by me
sheila- never saw so many in my life!
Dan(oh);- yes it was, it was my first
Dunn- Bigfoot, Out on the open water of Erie what's your favorite tactic to use for bigger eyes?
Bigfoot- wait until next year.
Driftr- First fish in the new ride was an 8 pounder :)
Bigfoot- Crank baits
Bigfoot- by far
Dunn- Bigfoot, What type?
Juls- nice way to christen the boat drift'r...- -)
Bigfoot- I use 25a and what ever it take to match their mood
Dunn- Bigfoot, Off of boards usually?
Bigfoot- I also use a lot of the new Super Rogue's
Bigfoot- put the spread out and cover ground
Dunn- Bigfoot, You use the new releases with pins or without on your boards?
Juls- who are some of your sponsors Foot? any new ones for next year?
T-Mac- yes... we have one on the lot now
Driftr- Do you run everything at different depths
Bigfoot- I like the new pin releases from Offshore
Bigfoot- until I zero in on the active fish
Bigfoot- but I also use one rod to keep them honest
chatman- What types of colors Rick, and do you vary them by day or seasonally?
Bigfoot- I vary them
Bigfoot- even during the day
chatman- Do you have any favorite colors this time of year?
Bigfoot- let the fish tell you what they want
Driftr- do you troll with waves or against or both?
Driftr- what direction has been more efficient?
T-Mac- What brand Mast do you use for pulling your boards? Rick?
Bigfoot- like here you have to experiment and find out what the current is doing and troll then
Dunn- Bigfoot, You've done very well jigging in the past. Have you substituted hand lining for jigging or do you still wait to make the call until your pre fishing?
Bigfoot- I use in-line boards
T-Mac- oh ok
Chairman- talk about Erie's current Rick
Chairman- you read it better than anyone I have fished with.
Bigfoot- jigging is a very effective method but I feel I can in some areas contact more fish
Bigfoot- like at Sharpe we were handling 100 fish by noon
Dunn- Bigfoot, When?
Juls- that would be fun
Dunn- That is a lot of fish.
tracy- current must be too strong!!
Dunn- Welcome back.
BobB- Rick - Do you have a methodology to learn a large body of water when pre fishing for a tournament?
Bigfoot- learn as much as you can before getting there
Bigfoot- get good charts of the lake
Bigfoot- try to figure out where they are during the time your there
Bigfoot- Break the lake down and learn a small area well
Bigfoot- and work the fish out
BobB- What do you mean by "break the lake down"?
chatman- Rick, are there charts available the show you the current based on wind direction?
Bigfoot- if the fish are just coming off the spawn look for areas close to where they spawn
chatman- I remember seeing something somewhere
Juls- isn't there a web site that tells you daily what they are? currents I mean? thought I read that somewhere
Bigfoot- if it's later and they are moving to there summer pattern look on there travel routes
Bigfoot- currents change with the wind here
BobB- So pretty much start on a seasonal pattern approach as a guess?
Chairman- how do you tell when you are having currents
Bigfoot- there is always some resident fish but look for the best concentration
Bigfoot- there is several ways
Juls- give us a few
Bigfoot- it easy with dipsy divers
Driftr- do tell
Bigfoot- and boards
Juls- how so?
Bigfoot- you can tell if the boards are working harder on one side of the boat than the other
Bigfoot- turn your boat so both sides are equal-
Juls- does it look like the boards are lining up like in a turn when your actually not turning?
Driftr- that is why I saw that at Huron
Bigfoot- this may change during the day
Driftr- I was accused of being in a turn when I wasn't
Driftr- Juls, new to boards here :)
Bigfoot- and you'll see that some times your only catching fish on one side of your boat
Juls- - -)
Ness- Same here
sheila- that's side I'll sit on
Driftr- I will tell Linda it was the currant, not the rod :)
Bigfoot- I use a lot of turns when pulling cranks
tracy- how does that indicate the presence of current?
chatman- Rick, do you try and troll with or into these currents? Or just to
keep the boards pulling at the same speed?
Bigfoot- at times the change triggers a response
Bigfoot- let the fish tell you
Bigfoot- if you are trolling down current you will have to speed up to get the
baits to work
chatman- similar to a river...
Driftr- Rick, with a dipsey, the rods will work harder on the current side?
Bigfoot- pay close attention to the boat angle when you get a hit
Bigfoot- fast side slow side etc.
chatman- We used to troll Salmon on Lake Michigan. and the current there is less pronounced and can be stratified in different directions at different depths, but then we usually fished 75 feet and deeper in the summer
Bigfoot- if the current is pushing you you'll see your dipsy's or boards angle back more
chatman- Lake Erie is pretty much top to bottom then? Due to shallow water on the west end?
Bigfoot- you can have two different flows
Bigfoot- some Dunn
chatman- Okay then it can be similar to what I am used to....
Driftr- under flow & top flow?
Bigfoot- we have a lot of current here
Dunn- Bigfoot, Any tips you can give to running cranks in rivers such as the
Detroit off boards?
Juls- surface current would be wind effect and bottom current is natural current? that right?
Bigfoot- the wind will push the water one way and the under flow is normally the opposite.
chatman- Reactive to surface winds
Bigfoot- and to the terrain
Bigfoot- Islands reefs points etc.
Driftr- how about here in the central basin with 75 feet of water
chatman- I'd imagine the islands and reefs can really funnel the current then...
Bigfoot- a lot of current
Bigfoot- have you ever seen Niagara Falls
Juls- - -)
chatman- I don't plan to from a boat, that is for sure! ....
Bigfoot- how much water goes over every second
Juls- gazillion gallons?
Bigfoot- where does it come from
Chairman- Detroit River
Driftr- Rick, Erie does have somewhat of a tide too , right?
Bigfoot- look at the current coming into Lake Erie from the Detroit river
Dunn- It's from all the Great Lakes.
Driftr- that would be current & wind
Dunn- Eventually, correct?
Bigfoot- it's all wind driven
Dunn- Kind of a great lakes funnel of current?
sheila- my kind of current!
Chairman- that all goes through the islands doesn't it?
Bigfoot- some times the fish want it into the current more often than not
Bigfoot- if you can troll that way
Bigfoot- if not troll quartering the current
Driftr- Rick, another direction, What do you do to get your crank baits deeper off boards
Bigfoot- big time
chatman- We used to be able to tell if we were going the right way on the down rigger rods. If the tips were shaking right we knew there was good action
Bigfoot- that's why so many times guys go west of the Islands and do well one day go back the next and nothing
Bigfoot- I use Snap Weights to get added depth
chatman- Sometimes we were going too slow and the current would push the flutter spoons back into the cable. Time to cut and re tie then!
Driftr- off the small boards ?
BobB- Where do you typically see them the fish move to?
Bigfoot- go rule of thumb for every ounce of weight ad 4 ft of depth
Bigfoot- they move with the current
T-Mac- Rick...line you use for trolling cranks...did anyone ask that?
Bigfoot- here we used to say they move into the wind
Fish'n Fool- I have a friend that got 11 fish on Sat in the wind
Bigfoot- 12# Silver Tread
chatman- As we start to wind down, any more questions for Rick Tonight?
Bigfoot- sounds like Erie will be down for awhile
Driftr- Great chat Rick, thanks for the info
Juls- windy there?
Bigfoot- going to be
Dunn- Thanks for the answers Rick.
Driftr- I hope to get there Sat
Driftr- was planning Friday
Driftr- but not
chatman- Let's have a warm round of applause for our Guest tonight, Rick
Ness- thanks, Rick
Juls- clap clap clap clap clap..thanks Rick...great chat..very
BobB- Thanks, Rick. I'll be back over Thanksgiving.
Juls- - -)
Ness- clap clap clap clap clap
Dunn- clap clap clap clap clap
chatman- As always Rick, Nice chatting with ya....