Mystery of VERADO !

[Mr Peepers]

How many of you are wondering the same thing I am, where are these "miracle motors"? Since they were introduced in mid-February, I've not read anything from an actual owner! Sure you hear bits and pieces of a few people getting a little demo ride but nothing from a real life owner/fisherman. I have a sneaky feeling they have discovered a problem somewhere and are not about to release them, (nobody wants an Opti 2000 all over again). I have noted they talk about the awesome hole shot and mid-range torque, what about top-end?

I saw on another site the comparison between a 275 Verado vs 300HPDI and while the Verado lead in each test (naturally), I was surprised some of the differences weren't much greater. Afterall, this is the motor that is supposed to start a revolution. Then again, maybe I have just been reading too many of the advertisements.

[Schmuel]

Maybe they're trying to find someone who can afford one? :-)

[jojo]

Are you implying that a Merc 275 4-stroke isn't that good because it only beats a 300 hp Yamaha 2-stroke by a little bit in every category? Now there's logic! Frankly, a 275, being 25 less HP shouldn't beat a 300 in any category let alone every category. Not to mention the fact that a 4-stroke of equal HP has always, up to now been slower in both acceleration and top end than a 2 stroke. To summarize - a Merc 4-Stroke with 25 less horsepower beats the Yamaha Vmax 2 stroke in every category. Sounds like game changing technology to me.

[mdsranger]

the question was,where is a real, live, owner? hpdi is a proven technology. for mercury's sake, i hope it lives up to all their hype. wheres your verado? my hpdi runs just fine! good fishin, mike

[HappyGilmore]

Onwer of the local ranger dealer here in Watertown, SD has a 225 verado hanging off the back of his 620. He said they cant sell any until one of their mechanics is certified for the motor. Beginning of July they will have a certified mech.

[Jim Carroll]

"To summarize - a Merc 4-Stroke with 25 less horsepower beats the Yamaha Vmax 2 stroke in every category. Sounds like game changing technology to me."

I guess that pretty much sums it up...

For any one really interested, Keith Kavajecz should have his 250 HP Verado powered Tracker Tundra 21' at Walleye Weekend in Fond du Lac. The boat hit 62.4 GPS when it was ran down in Missouri last week. Jim Carroll NPAA #333

[Mr Peepers]

The intent of my original post was to try to find a real live owner and the comparison was to draw interest. I am a little skeptical of comparisons and here's a few reasons why. Who conducted the tests? Was there certified Merc personnel setting up the Verado? Was there certified Yamaha personnel setting up the 300? Did anyone dyno both motors to see what the actual horsepower was on each? With the variance allowed on horsepower, the Verado could actually have been running with more ponies. All I'm saying is maybe things aren't always what they appear to be at first glance. I've owned both brands, so don't have an axe to grind. Granted the Verado came out ahead on the tests, but was it enough to get people to jump on the 4-stroke bandwagon especially if it's Merc's, and how do you convince the people of their merits if they can't see them in real life.

[JimRK]

Walleye Weekend in Fond du Lac is the Mercury Nationals Tournament. Mercury is suppose to have several Verado's there for test drives. For anyone who lives close by and would like try the motor out and talk to the Mercury staff, this would be a great opportunity.
Happy fishing to all :-)

[MrBigeyes not logged]

(nobody wants an
>Opti 2000 all over again).

As a 2000 200 opti owner I will just for the record say 130+ hours and runs like a top. I love the way everyone thinks 2000 opti's all blew up! I smile every time I hear it turn over.

[Rangerdealer]

We can't sell any until at least one technician from our dealership is "certified" via attending Verado school. We have one going in late June. It is the same for all dealers.

[wiredog]

The only thing pruven on the new HPDI is 10 hrs and BOOM!! wiredog

[Merc1]

Sounds like the competition is getting a bit nervouse with these Mercury Verado threads popping. he he he

[Ristorapper]

Bass and walleye boats will be doing a side by side test on the 250 verado and the 250 racing motors. Article will be in the Sept/Oct issue:

second to last paragraph:

http://www.bassandwalleyeboats.com/site_page_896/article_page_291.html

[Mr Peepers]

Did anyone get a chance to go to Fond Du Lac over the weekend and see how the motors compared to the Opti's and EFI's?

[HappyGilmore]

Does anyone know what the verado 200 is going to cost?

[What]

Nervous about what, spending alot more on something that isn't even close to proven?

[Merc Man]

One of the big problems with the engine is all the money it takes for a dealer to be set up to service the Verado. When you buy one from a dealer, make sure he will have all the new diagonstic equipment to service and take care of the engine. Also make sure that the techs have been to service school for this. Most of the small dealers won't be able to afford to sell the Verado.

[lfm]

talked to a dealer who tested the 250 Verado on a 2050 crestliner
and a 250 opti on the same boat said the verado is slower at top end and very slow out of the hole next to the 250 opti

larry

[berkeye]

I would certainly question that dealers facts. He probably was comparing it to a 250 HPDI. The Verado is very comparable to a 250 Opti in hole shot and top end, if not better.

[WALLEYEGUIDE]

as far as the comparison test between the verado/hpdi i think you have to look real close to the way the test was conducted.pay close attention to the props used while running the test.i believe it says merc used the yamaha prop on the test motor(yamaha motor)from the rigging guide(usually a range of pitch,profile)i would guess that merc did not go out of their way to put the most optimum prop on the test engine to do the comparison.after running several verados i think it is a nice running engine but this comparison test seems a little inaccurate to me.a full blown test would involve each manufacturer setting up their own motor with their own props then running the numbers,i believe the results would be different.

[WALLEYEGUIDE]

as far as the comparison test between the verado/hpdi i think you have to look real close to the way the test was conducted.pay close attention to the props used while running the test.i believe it says merc used the yamaha prop on the test motor(yamaha motor)from the rigging guide(usually a range of pitch,profile)i would guess that merc did not go out of their way to put the most optimum prop on the test engine to do the comparison.after running several verados i think it is a nice running engine but this comparison test seems a little inaccurate to me.a full blown test would involve each manufacturer setting up their own motor with their own props then running the numbers,i believe the results would be different.

[Jackpinesavge]

I was up at the LOTW this weekend and saw a 250 Verado on the back of a 2025 Pro V. The motor was as quiet as the kicker he had mounted to the back. The guy said it moves the boad between 56 and 58 and they used the motor for trolling as well. They were jigging and moving the motor in and out of gear all day. They said the motor worked better than expected. He had it mounted on the back of a new 2005 model, which was also very cool. The only thing I could think of as a negative was that it was so big. It looked like a hot air balloon. I was impressed with the set up and the boat moved very nicely through the water. The guys on the boat were on a Lund photo shoot, which I think was the reason why they had te 2005 rigged with the Verado.

Jackpine

[abe2]

If you would like to talk with someone who has one on a boat call the owner of Bass Cat boat in Mountin Home Ark. He had one on his boat and was giving demo ride in Mid April. I didnt get to try it out as the day I was going to go we had high wind and rain. Hope that helps abe