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Mid Columbia
06-28-2004, 06:51 PM
according to the Warrior catalog there are several guides and fishermen running these boats in the Midwest. I am looking to replace an 1890 pro v lund with a boat i can comfortably fish 3-4 clients out of. being so far from a dealer and having omly pictures to look at it would really be nice to hear from anyone who could speak to the 2090 tiller.Thanks.

REW
06-28-2004, 08:52 PM
I don't own one, but have fished with two different guides who own and use them on some of the central MN lakes.

I can't imagine any better running boat than this one.
Large, pleanty of room for several clients. great control, perfect control all the time, lots of storage.

If you can get the chance; take one out on the lake and run it in some heavy weather. You will find out for yourself.

Take care
REW

eye4aneye
06-28-2004, 10:24 PM
The 20' Warrior is tiller perfection for big lakes. I've fished out of a couple on Oahe and they have the best rough water ride going in any tiller I've been around. They also are capable of handling the bigger motors so you can still run fast.

Grates
06-29-2004, 03:55 AM
I run the 1890 XST in Minnesota. It is my 3rd one, and I love the performance. The exclusive Pro Tiller system on the Warrior back trollers is second to none (Because they are the only one). You can run in any water. Running a 175 tiller is as easy as pressing a button with your thumb. There are a lot of new options out, and coming out that may not be in your catalog. I have never had any problems with comfortably guiding with my 1890. I know the 2090 will offer you all the room you need.

I would suggest calling Dan Klimek at Warrior and finding out who may be the closes Pro Staffer, or dealer near you where you can get a test drive. 320-693-5005

Rick
Litchfield, MN

spindrift
06-29-2004, 07:04 AM
you won't be dissapointed. the underfloor rod storage rocks for long rods! If I were still living in ND, I would have gotten one by now. Not that I dislike my 1890 tiller..........

Denny Fox
06-29-2004, 08:12 AM
If you want to hear about a smokin deal on a brand new, left over, 2090 XST Warrior with a 135 Opti-max give me a call, Denny Fox at Fort Fremont Marine in Fremont,Wisconsin at 920-446-3220.

Sorry for the add Scott, gotta' move this boat.

Thanks

Warrior1
06-29-2004, 10:08 AM
I own a 2090 with a full windshield powered by a 250hp but have fished out of the 2090 tiller. Quite frankly after fishing out of the tiller I was sold on the hull, I just happen to have wanted the full windshield. What you will be most impressed with is the way this hull tracks. Trolling a 20+ foot boat can be a chore in the wind but the "Smart Trolling Keel" design makes the boat very managable, it tracks exceptionally well, the best I have ever owned. As far as ride? I live in the Dakotas and fish plenty of rough water and you will not be disappointed with the ride, as good or better than any other boat. As with any 20+ foot boat, storage is excellent. And as previous posts have indicated, the "Pro Tiller" steering system is excellent, once you have used it you would never go back to having to "man handle" a tiller motor. I'll put it to you this way, once you own one, you will never own another, you will be that happy, and that not saying Yarcraft, Ranger and others don't make good boats, Warrior just happens to make, arguably, the best tiller around. BTW, I do not work for Warrior and I'm not a dealer.

dave t.
06-29-2004, 10:17 AM
Warrior does have a great riding hull, no one can argue that. I did find (I am a previous owner) that fit to finish was a little weak and storage was not dry as advertised. But overall, I'd recommend these boats to anyone who fishes big water, they do perform.

Hooter
06-29-2004, 11:38 PM
Own a 177 BT Agree with Dave t. Setup nice, rides great, performs well but dry storage isn't dry, fit and finish sucks, and nothing but problems with electical!!!

catfishkiller
06-30-2004, 10:03 AM
How fast will the 2090 with the 250 run? I assume merc or yam 2 stroke? It should fly - right?

catfish

Warrior1
06-30-2004, 10:22 AM
Catfishkiller,

You are correct, my 2090DC is rigged with a Merc 250EFI two stroke. I am propped with a 21 pitch Tempest plus that was tweaked by Randy Pierson at Grand Prix Performance in Avon Minnesota. With a typical load it will run at 5700 rpms and 54-55mph gps. I have run as high as 57 with 10 gallons of fuel on board, just myself in the boat and no gear. It isn't a speed demon but it's pretty respectable for a big boat and I have out run plenty of other boats that claim 60+ gps. I guess it must depend on what gps you use huh?

abc
06-30-2004, 09:39 PM
Hooter,

What year is your 177?

Hooter
06-30-2004, 09:56 PM
1997 177 BT Eagle

Warrior nut
07-01-2004, 08:36 AM
Cadillac of the walleye boats.

catfishkiller
07-01-2004, 09:24 AM
Warrior1,

I may be a gambling man but I'd guess that you are a bit under propped! I agree with 57 unquestionably, you should have more though. The 2090 is light and narrow. Admittedly it is a non-pad bottomed boat but there should still be more behind it. Do yo keep a lot of weight (anchors) up in the bow? Also 5700 sounds high for the merc. Should it be more around 5500-5600? Have you tried running a 23 tempest? Let me know if you could use one, i've got one thats practically new - 30 minutes use - that I could part with.

catfish
"the other fish"

Warrior1
07-01-2004, 10:04 AM
Catfish,

The 3 litre 225/250 Merc EFI's are rated at 5800 rpms max, rev limiter chimes at 6100. The front is loaded fairly light, not a lot of weight unless the livewell and baitwell are full. You are right, the boat is narrow at 90 inches but it's not all that light, 2055 lbs hullweight, their built like a tank.

I have tried several props, including the 23 Tempest, and for overall performance I like the 21 Tempest best. The 23 Tempest I tried was not the Tempest plus, I think it was the old A45 which the bass boys like, less cupping, and it actually performed terrible out of the hole. At some point I should probably try a 23 Tempest Plus I would think it would perform ok out of the hole and give me another 2 mph but the 21 is awesome out of the hole and at midrange. Just haven't had time, too many fish to catch.

Warrior1

catfishkiller
07-02-2004, 09:47 AM
Good Point!

The 23" tempest i have is an A47 tempest plus model. Let me know if you've any interest.

catfish

Corey Bohn
07-03-2004, 01:41 AM
If you're looking for a great boat for guiding, the Warrior backtroller equipped with Pro Tiller is without a doubt the ultimate fishing boat. I own a 2005 1890 Warrior BT Eagle (tiller) rigged with a 115 hp Mercury OptiMax motor and Pro Tiller. Having tournament fished and guided for many years, I made the switch from an aluminum boat and a tiller to Warrior this past spring and what difference. There's absolutely no comparison. Warrior's Smart Trolling Keel keeps the boat on track at all times, unlike other boats that will continuously turn down wind when on drift. The smooth, dry ride is unbelievable and the Pro Tiller hydraulic steering system allows owners to power their boats with up to 45% more horsepower than any other boat manufacturer's similar boat models. Pro Tiller is without a doubt the real deal as it eliminates arm fatigue and strain 100%. You can elect to steer the motor manually whenever you want for backtrolling or simply push the "on" button and Pro Tiller locks the motor in the straight forward position. You run the throttle to determine your speed and Pro Tiller steers the boat for you with a simple push of the feather trim buttom left or right. Pro Tiller is much like the tilt and trim on a motor. Instead of trimming the motor up or down, it instead trims left or right to steer the boat as needed. Running my 115 hp Merc OptiMax is easier than running and steering a 10 hp tiller. I'll be getting a new Warrior every year and my 2005 will be for sale later this fall. You inquired about a 2090. My boat is an 1890 (18 ft. 3 inches) which is all the boat you need for guiding. You can fit three clients in it comfortably and operate the boat with room to spare. Dealer best price for my boat, motor and trailer (again, it's a 2005) is $28,000 plus tax. Extra's on it include: Minnkota Vantage 74, Vexilar Edge 2, Vexilar FL-8, splashguards, travel cover and two extra seats (4 total). Total cost with tax came to over $33,000. Boat is in show room condition and will be mint when I let it go. If you go to a dealer between now (July 04 and July 05) and rig similarily, you'll pay $33,000 or you can buy my new 2005 later this fall for $28,000. Price includes everything rigged as is. I don't know where you're from, but if you can make it to Minnesota sometime this summer I'll gladly take you out fishing in it and you can see for yourself what a remarkable fishing machine it truly is. Give me a call at 320-986-2216 or send an email to: minnkota@runestone.net I'd be more than happy to discuss further.

slo
07-03-2004, 08:45 AM
Hey corey,
how do you like that 115opti on this rig,I have a 1998 1890 with 90 horse merc,and looked at upgrading this year and was undecided on the choice of the 135opti or the 115.I here that motor is real quiet but dont know how it trolls down and top end speed which I figure is about 44,because of the tests I seen with the 1154stroke. Thanks...

SlowPoke
07-03-2004, 09:43 PM
Worrior Hulls are slow. And thats the nature of the beast. If a 20ft Targa with a 225 EFI go 58 why would a 2090 go so SLOW. I even herd the 193's with 225 are only going 53. What a Pooch. Dont get me wrong there great boats but they are lacking on the performance end. Even a 20 Triton with a 250 will go 65..

shackman
07-04-2004, 11:25 AM
Well said, Warrior Nut. It's just very nice to see so many nice comments on this boat line. As far as speed goes, for 99% of the guys running 'walleye' boats, I think that 'fishability' is the most important factor, as very few guys are in need of lots of speed. Regardless of the boat you run, if you are in any kind of rough water and run at WOT, you'll knock your brains out, not to mention your kidneys and other parts of your body....I would prefer a smoother, drier ride, than a faster, pounding ride.

I run a 1898SC with a 175 Opti...boat is rated for 200HP. With the 175, I'm still within the "80%" rule-of-thumb on the HP rating. Have a factory prop (couldn't begin to tell you the pitch-nor do I care), and run 60+ on the speedometer. GPS ground speed which is more accurate, shows about 53+. Plenty fast for me with a 18'6" length, and 96" beam.

Just my thoughts....

Shackman

Grates
07-05-2004, 09:22 AM
Slo,

I also have a 2005 1890 XST with the 115 Optimax. I took the 115 over the 135 simply because it is ALOT quieter and trolls well. The motor doesnt have, say, the hole shot of the 125 classic, but the performance and fishability is wonderful. The fastest I have at mine is 44.3 mph in perfect conditions. I average 41-42 fully loaded in tournament conditions.

(I will sell mine for $27,999!!!!!!!!!) LOL

Get one you will love it.

Rick G.