NPAA tournament in April

[Dude]

I heard there is going to be a members tournament at Chamberlin in April, 2002. I also heard it will be limited to the top 100. Has anyone else heard this? Thanks for any info. Dude

[Walizz 1]

According to a letter I got today from Skip Guindon #00, it will be called the NPAA Top 100 Shootout with only #00-#100 entered.
I know Skip and hope things work out o.k. for him.
Dale Frank #251

[Chairman]

I think this subject should be left to rest until the NPAA makes an announcement. There are a lot of things to be hashed over and worked out before anything happens.
Chairman
NPAA # 6

[old NPAA member]

Let me see if I understand this, top 100 (the boys club), having a tournament that my membership fees pay for..... What a deal, I will renew my membership today

[gonfishn95]

I was thinking the same thing, I belong to NPAA and use the insurance and said in the beginning, looks like it is for an elite few if I am wrong then I apologize in advance, If not I too am considering a new insurance program regardless of benefits. I thought it would be open to all who pay dues, Why put it to rest? if there is to be a tournament put the explanation out before we all renew.
Larry Dawson NPAA #273

[Walizz 1]

Chairman is right. I regret answering this thread. Let's not get into a big deal over this. Thanks.

[bob]

I would imagine one of the things that needs to be hashed is what the payout will be when the donations(membership fees) have been counted.

[Bigfoot]

Well as always someone speaks before knowing all the facts. The shootout will be held in conjunction with the PWT at Chamberland and the NPAA kids tournament, Which will be held on Saturday following the PWT. On Sunday, We are trying to hold the shootout. The entry fe is $2,000.00, with the first three spots being paid back. NO NPAA MONEY is going into the prize fund. 100 percent payback of entry fee's and they are trying to get some added money also. They are still looking at a singles or a team event. Charlie Moore is wanting to know what the members think, so contact him.

[Charlie Moore]

Bigfoot and the Chairman are right. There is a lot of details to be figured out on this. There will be NO NPAA MONEY from members registration fees going into the tournament. It is a $2000.00 entry with 100% of entry fees payed back. Let it rest for now.

Charlie Moore, NPAA

[Concerned]

I have watched this so called sport I love evolve over the last few years to the point of almost barfing. I’ve never seen any form of competition so bent on bending the rules or format or skewing the odds towards the so called self-proclaimed elite few.

How can we expect to grow the sport if the general public begins to question the legitimacy of competition.

Take the 2001 PWT for example. To make the Championship, you either had to be in the top 30 of everybody fishing both the east and west, or just the top 6 of guys fishing one division. Last time I checked there was only 50 or so guys fishing both divisions. In the west, which allowed 150+ pros, that meant only 6 out of 100 would be allowed to fish the championship. Which odds do you like? 30-50 or 6-100. Is there any qualifications for fishing both divisions? Not really. To further skew the odds those same 50, no matter how their year is going, get to leave first on day one of the tournaments before even the leaders of the division get to. (for example, if your leading the west, the earliest you could leave is 51st!) What’s up with that!

These people then get to put on their resume that they have made X amount of Championships implying that they have bested the field of 150 competitors. Not really. They only beat 20 guys. I wonder if the sponsors know that!

I ask these people, what’s wrong with the top 20 guys from each division going to the championship. Is that not fair? Or are you afraid of sitting home for the Championship. People who would fish both divisions still have twice as many chances to make it. How about an Angler of the year for each division? Too many guys to compete against? I guarantee that if a truly fair tournament circuit would be run, the marginal fisherman at the top would be weeded out very quickly and we would have a new set of names to admire and look up to as they would have truly earned it.

Now we have yet again a private tournament rumored with limited participation. I wonder how these people will be able to twist the facts again into sponsorship dollars. Some of the guys in the top 100 in the NPAA don’t even fish tournaments anymore, while some could be considered marginal walleye pros at best. They bought their way in.

People (some senior pros) who have their own interests involved are heavily influencing the way the game is played to their own advantage.

What I think is really happening is some of the guys that were around early in the walleye game are starting to feel the heat of the system that they themselves created. There are a lot of good fisherman coming up the ranks and the good-ole-boys feel they have to slant the rules in order to keep their status and sponsor $ coming in.

If the general public begins to question the legitimacy of the sport. The sport will never grow to its potential. I’m afraid it might be too late. Remember when people used to look up to the pros. Now they look at them with a suspicious eye. Maybe rightfully so.

Sorry, I know I’ll take a beating on this one, but I really feel the integrity of the sport is in danger and no individuals are more important than the sport as a whole.

Concerned

[Magic]

Why not make it a team event and have the top 100 fish with any Registered member of there choice. Registered members pay 25% of entry.

[Heavy Duty]

Well guys instead of trying to get added moneys for the tournament get some added deals in the members only packets, im not complaining about what we get but why should only a 100 members get a crack whats wrong with the other 900 members.

Just my two pennies

[Muleskinner]

Great idea Dan. That would make it fair to the Registered members too. I heard that the tourney is not going to happen anyways. Maybe the next attempt at this should involve some input from the registered members.

[mnjimcarp]

i think a survey should be done that would solicit the number of days a fisherman spends on the computer versus the number of days on the water actually fishing. i am pretty sure that the guys and gals that are actually on the water more days whine alot less than the guys and gals with more days on the computer. just a suggestion.
shut up and fish!

[Magic]

How did you know I'm Dan, who are you?

[my 2 cents]

Because the other 900 support the elite 100. This group is not for the everyday fisherman nor even the casual tournament angler this is for a select few to have access to a large cash cow to gain what is best for them. Take a look at their sucesses, the gains are mostly for the PWT. Take a look at their proposed tournament, it's not for the rank and file only the elite. Why not have a NPAA tournament that you qualify for by your sucess on your circuit of choice? A few from the PWT, a few from the MWC a few from the RCL etc... Maybe because that would prove the elite isn't so elite after all, once the playing field is leveled.

[Goldtooth]

Dannioo! AKA Magic, see you up at FT. Peck for gov cup 2002. In the meantime, keep holding up the bar at the Gateway for my arrival.

[Goldtooth]

What is the scoop on the NPAA... is this a non-profit organization? If so, why not provide an annual report to all members of who,where, what issues, status, resolutions et. the membership dues are supporting.

Otherwise, why join... for the promotional discounts. HA HA

[Muleskinner]

Dan,
I have fished in the wwc for the last three years and our path's have crossed a couple times. I am also fishing RCL here and there. Hope to run across you next year. Until then good fishing and happy holiday's.




Kevin Herbert
AKA Muleskinner

[Mt-1]

Well let's see Dannooo- You posted your boat for sale in the classifieds under Magic (dan) and also montana walleyes unlimited. Not too hard to figure that one out.