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Fish whip guy
12-09-2001, 07:58 PM
I received the jan. issue of North American Whitetail and on the cover is a pic of the potential new number one(typical). It was killed in Alberta on Oct. 8,01 . The 60 day drying period is up and i wondered if anyone had heard the offical score. The green score was 208 6/8. Thanks for any info! Happy holidays!

Fish-on
12-10-2001, 06:51 AM
This is the potential largest all-time BOWKILL only. Not a potential new world record. I haven't seen the magazine yet, but the info has been on the net since it was killed and I've been following this story closely. It came from Alberta's bow-only zone.

RDJ
12-10-2001, 08:06 AM
I think the drying period was up on 12/6/01. ESPN2 has some info in their outdoors section. It appeared they were going to follow the story and keep all of us Whitey fanatics up to date. WHAT A PIG !!! Does anyone know of any pictures online of this deer. I haven't received my latest copy of NAWT yet. Todays management systems seem to be producing a high octane whitetail. Annual Poper counts and entries are up all over the country. I wish we had the feed and genetics here in Montana to produce deer like the Midwest and Canada. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to travel.. See ya, RJ in Montana....

CrestHawk
12-10-2001, 08:54 AM
Fish-on, Is this the animal that was found in a farmer's field a couple of days after it had been shot?

Fish whip guy
12-10-2001, 12:13 PM
Hey Fish-On, sorry about the mix-up. I ment that this buck could be the new world record in the Pope&Young Club's typical catagory. The Pope&Young Club is the record keeping org. for game killed with archery gear. Acording to the story in the mag. the buck was found a couple of days after it was shot in a farmers crop field. What a beauty!

Dave Q
12-10-2001, 03:34 PM
Found a couple of days latter? sound's like a waste of meat. jmho

Goldtooth
12-10-2001, 06:09 PM
RJ- Looking for big whities in Montana? Try the Yaak, Tobacco and Kooteni drainages in the NW corner of the state. Ideal for bowhunting!

Fish-on
12-11-2001, 07:43 AM
That's interesting, I lived in Libby as a kid and it was all mule deer in that area at the time. When people talk about whitetails in MT they are usually talking about the NE part of the state. Whitetails have expanded their range a lot. Is there a lot of trophy potential in that part of the mountains now? Here's a photo of a buck my buddy from Forst City, IA shot last week. When you are talking Iowa, you are talking big bucks.

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/Bernie/df-buck1.jpg

Fish-on
12-11-2001, 09:53 AM
That's the one.

Fish-on
12-11-2001, 09:55 AM
That rack is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of a half-million dollars or more over the next few years if the cards are played right. That'll buy a lot of meat.

RDJ
12-11-2001, 10:08 AM
There are several area's in Montana that produce good whitetails but even our best area's don't hold a candle to the midwest states. I haven't researched the NW corner for whitetails however I do know of a couple of very serious prostaff hunters that live up that way and they all travel to other parts when they get serious. The area I hunt has to its credit the current state record P&Y Non-Typical whitey and a few of the top state P&Y Typical bucks. But I was fortunate enough to spend 8 days last fall in SE Minnesota and I saw more P&Y bucks in that time than I saw all this fall in my area. It was truly impressive country. The two guys I hunt with spent 10 days in Kansas this fall and they came back with very good things to say as well. They killed a 130 typical and a 160 non-typical/146 typical buck. They saw two that were bigger than the big one they killed. The 146 buck was aged at 3 1/2 yrs old, thats amazing. That same buck would probably need to see at least 4 1/2 yrs and more than likely 5 1/2 yrs here in Montana to get to that size. Don't get me wrong, we have some good whitetail area's here and very liberal seasons, but look at the record books and it's easy to see where one needs to be able to have a chance at consistenty killing P&Y bucks. The genetics and food sources play such a huge part and the midwest states offer so much high protein antler growing food that the bucks just seem to be a year or two ahead of our growth rates. Regardless of where you hunt them, Whitetails are my favorite animal to archery hunt. Good luck to all, have a nice holiday season.

RDJ
12-11-2001, 10:13 AM
Fish-On, Thats a heck of a buck your friend shot, Please congratulate him for me. The NW corner is a good area for Mule deer still and is also home to some of the states best and biggest moose hunting opportunities. I have never hunted up there but know many who head there in search of trophy mule deer. See Ya..

Chris K
12-11-2001, 10:16 AM
After the drying period the buck is an official 206 7/8 score, making it the P&Y record. I live in the zone where it was shot and there are some truly huge deer to be had. I was going to go and veiw the mount on Saturday but icefishing for walleyes got in the way. Chris K

Fish-on
12-11-2001, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the final score. Since the drying period ended two days ago I was wondering how it came out. This stuff fascinates me to no end.

Where the heck is Mitch Rompola these days? LOL

RDJ
12-11-2001, 12:04 PM
Is this Chris K from Spruce Grove? If so how are you? Drop me a note and let me how your season ended. Any luck selling your Lund yet? Hope it moves quickly for you, looks like a great deal. Sorry for the mail if this isn't Huskyjerk. see ya....

twogun
12-11-2001, 12:04 PM
Canada truly has lifetime great bucks. Montana,Iowa,Nebraska and Michigan also have great bucks taken every year. A WORLD bow record is a different story. Was it taken during rutt?

CrestHawk
12-11-2001, 12:06 PM
How was the kill verified on this deer? Didn't the carcass sustain heavy coyote damage? I'm always a little skeptical when a rack is worth this kind of money and the things to commercialize the kill are falling into place so quickly.

Putz
12-11-2001, 02:55 PM
Seen the picture of the rack on the ESPN website - WOW!
Take a look at this guy taken in central North Dakota by Carington - another monster.
http://www.fishingbuddy.com/pics/hugebuck.jpg

DA
12-11-2001, 07:49 PM
Super Buck!~!~ But the Deer was found several days after the man shot a Deer, and coyotes had eaten nearly everything! How can we be sure it was the same deer shot? How can we be sure it was killed by a bow? maybe it was killed by the coyotes! Maybe it was in a buck fight and was gored and died! It should go into the BC book as a pickup by the farmer and the owner should be listed as the person who now owns it! Every one ASSUMES its a Bow Kill but without the evidence no one can know for sure!

Fish-on
12-12-2001, 08:14 AM
It was taken October 8. The guy was just out scouting for the upcoming rut, carrying his bow. The buck trots right up to him while he crouched on the ground looking at sign. What a gift.

Fish-on
12-12-2001, 08:23 AM
Those are legitimate points. But I think the buck will stand as a bowkill although there will always be some speculation I'm sure. He says he knew he'd made a bad shot on it. He tracked the buck as far as he could, then looked for it until dark. The guy went home and told others that he'd shot a monster and "couldn't sleep" so he was back at the site before daylight and looked until he had to go to work. After work he went back and then the following morning he went back a looked again and found it after talking to the landowner who said he'd seen it lying in the field. These are his words verified only by his family and the landowner. But considering the climate lately (remember Mitch Rompola?) I'm sure NA Whitetail did a heck of a lot of scrutiny before they put this one on the press because they don't want to get embarrssed by this thing. Plus, NA whitetail paid a big chunk of change to get first rights to the story over all other outdoor magazines. That's my take on it. I wonder if Zaft (the hunter) has taken a polygraph. Either way, to me it's about the buck, not the hunter or the conditions under which it died. It's a remarkable creature, one in a billion.