Dru Sjodin's Body Found

[A Guest]

Associated Press reported this afternoon the body of missing North Dakota co-ed Dru Sjodin, who was kidnapped from a mall parking lot five months ago, has been found. A suspect who was previously charged with kidnapping her is in jail.

[Juls_OH]

That's bad news, but thanks for the update. I hope they throw away the key on that freak of nature. May he rot in jail.

My thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends who have never stopped searching. May they find some sort of peace now.

Juls

[Shellback]

At least her family can find some closure now, to lose your child and not know where she may lay must be terrible. I've seen where in cases like this they give the criminal an easy off for telling where the body is for the sake of the family. Now they can hang that B**tard from the neck until dead!

[Judge Roy Bean]

We'll give him a fair trial first, then we'll hang him.

[Das Boot 3]

Neither Mn nor ND has a death penalty. I can only hope that that SOB gets charged in Federal Court so the death penalty can be applied as as soon as possible.

[mc]

Sometimes life in prison for a sex offender is far worse than the death penalty!!!!

mlc

[Hangman]

Not for this a---hole. He's already spent life in prison and must like it.

[reddog91]

As Ron White would say:" Put him in the "express" lane to the death penalty"

[MyWay]

Well, my opinion is we should handle heinous cases like this in a special manner. Such special cases would be where the perp has been given chances before, has been set free by a legal system run amok, and has repeated his offenses (or worse) and where their is definite DNA evidence for certainty of conviction.

The special handling would be to turn the perp, after trial and conviction, over to the victim's family.

[esoxlucius]

If he'd been hung for the first s ex offense this would't have happened. In spite of what the libbies say, capital punishment is a determent. It certainly would have deterred him. Life in prison worse? Maybe but why should we have to spend our hard earned money to the tune of 35-40 grand a year to keep him there? Hang him and be done with it.

[EMOO]

I have to go along with Esoxlucius on this one.. Once DNA confirms no more talk ............

[Das Boot 3]

This is a tragic event prompts me to post a civics lesson. The state of Mn classifies sex offenders before they are released from prison as level 1, 2 or 3 with 3 as the worst. A level three is deemed "highly likely to reoffend". The "suspect" in this case Alfonso Rodriguez Jr was released as a level 3. Mn also has a civil commitment process to involuntarly commit sex offeders to a secure institution for treatment. This is not a new process, the statute was enacted in 1937 and has been appealed all the way to the Supreme Court three times. The offenders can be commited as Psychopathic Personality or Sexually Dangerous Person. In the case of an offender with an mental illness there is also a statute for Mentally Ill and Dangerous. Don't confuse this "treatment" as a easy out after some hand holding and talk therapy. There has not been a discharge from this program in the past 20 years. They are locked up in a maximum security facility either in Moose Lake or St Peter MN.
Rodriguez was released on a unsuspecting public simply because of money. Our wrestling meathead gov cut taxes in good times and our current not much brighter gov made a absolute promise to not raise taxes. The result of this is less state services and balancing the state budget on the backs of state employees and cutting funding to counties and schools. These cuts had a direct impact on the staffing and funding for the program that classifies sex offenders before release and there was an Adminstrative decision made in St Paul to not notify the county attorneys before the offender leaves Dept of Corrections custody so commitment petitions can be filed. When there is a proposal to raise taxes for state services people yowl that the "libbies" are at it again. Those tax dollars are also used to keep our families safe from predators like the suspect in this case. The commitment program is necessary because even with new sentencing laws, new laws only apply to new offenses and the offenders currently in the system would still be released on schedule. The options are commit them or wait until they are caught victimizing another family so they can be charged under the new laws.
If raising my taxes by 100,200,or 500 dollars last year would have saved Dru's life by funding this program it would have been money well spent. There are 158 men and one woman committed in Mn - multiply that by potential rapes, murders, and child molestations before you consider the cost of the program.
The suspect was released as a level 3 - ALL level threes should referred for commitment and NEVER be set free on our streets to prey on our wives and children.
DB3

[Yup]

>The suspect was released as a level 3 - ALL level threes
>should referred for commitment and NEVER be set free on our
>streets to prey on our wives and children.
>DB3
>

Sounds like you have a good logic base. Your next step is to start a grass roots movement to enact such a law. Call it "Dru's Law" and get the folks from the twin cities news papers to pick up the story. Then find a supportive legislator to sponsor the law. I bet it passes first time around. Even the "libbies" won't be able to put up road blocks for this one.

Let us on walleyecentral know where to send the first contribution to the legislator you found and the cause.

[to much]

I feel for the family.This guy was a very bad man and should get worse than he will.However these tax cuts were not put in place to release this guy.Raising taxes again and again will not stop this!Spending is out of control,these prisioners live to good these days.Cable TV,workout rooms playing basketball.
We need to get these people to contribute some how.In MN we are going through the Tax cut era,programs are changing hopfully for the good.We needed to stop giving handouts and get things under control.I saw where right after this the DEM's went after the current Gov. like he had anything to do with letting this guy go.Look into what the costs are to run a prison these days,some how some way we need to get things under control spending wise!
Lots of old laws on the books were never set to handle the number of cases that we now have.Seems they never want to look or change things til its to late.Always after such a case like this they want to do something.Next thing is we will have hearings on whos fault this is,kinda like the 9/11 thing.I don't have the answers to what we need to do,just wish they did!

[Das Boot 3]

The fix for this has already been put in place. The Department of Corrections refers all level 3s to the counties for commitment and the Mn Atty Generals Office will petition the commitment and do the court papers and appearances for the counties if the county atty requests help. This was the fix after the current adminstrations feet were put to the fire after Dru's disappearance. There has been 23 level threes delivered to St Peter since Dec '03. That was more than 01 and 02 combined. What the public needs to do is let the pols (of both parties) know that we will support whatever it takes to keep the sexual predators off our streets.
Side note....
go to www.doc.state.mn.us and do an offender locator for your county and surrounding areas. You should be amazed at how many level 3s live within 50 miles of you and yours.

[esoxlucius]

Trying to blame this tragedy on a public opposed to tax increases is merely more illusionary libbie speak and so typical of their disingenuous sophistry. Sex offenders should be executed. Period. This particular type of crime has an astronomical recidivism rate. Treatment rarely works. A greased noose is quick, humane, cheap, and deters big time. This monstrous evil must be eliminated, not incarcerated, and "rehabilitated". I'm appalled at the thought that society has to live with these reprobates in the neighborhood and the daily game of Russian roulette. It's virtually a sure bet that if given the opportunity they will commit these crimes again. When is society going to wake up and realise that the burden must be placed on the criminals and not the law abiding public? Just how many Sjodin's will it take? Society needs justice-not "civics lessons".

[The Democrat]

At last someone on this board displays an ounce of sense.

For the rest of you, news flash: The "libbies" ceased to be "soft on crime" more than 25 years ago. Another factoid: It costs more to execute someone than to imprison them for life. Logical conundrum: You can't execute someone if the state where they commit the crime doesn't have a death penalty. The solution to that is enacting one, and you might be surprised how many "libbies" will support such a proposal. Math dilemma: You can't finance prisons with tax cuts. Somebody has to pay for stuff that costs money so quit trying to rationalize tax cuts already. If you don't want to pay taxes move to a desert island that has no government services and live on coconut juice.

Finally, I agree with those who say sex offenders should be removed from society permanently. Forget all this crapola about classifying people as Level 1, Level 2, etc. If somebody commits rape or molests a child, goodbye. On the first offense. My wife was molested when she was 4 years old, is still suffering 50 years later, and will never be well. Rape and molestation are emotional murder. I'm for throwing the key away.

[Das Boot 3]

You miss my point;
There IS a way to keep them locked up.
There IS a way to keep yourself informed on who is loose and where they are.
I strongly encourage EVERYONE to go to the DOC site and find out who is out there and know what they look like.
There is NO legal provision to excute sex offenders as of now - but man I would support one.
The danger now is the sex offenders currently in prison that commited their crime before the current sentencing laws were enacted. An informed public is a safer public.

[Pitts]

I,m for doing a little castration for a first offense.
That would put an end to any urges they may have at a later date.

Best part is they can still support themselves by working.

I agree this guy should be put to death but we have no death penalty so it will not happen.

I got to check out the site that is mentioned.



Pitts

[esoxlucius]

Cost more to execute than incarcerate these characters? If true then would that be on account of a 20 year appeals process and the resulting taxpayer paid lawyers bill? A point which you so conveniently omitted. This is what I'm referring to when I say disingenous sophistry-libbie double speak. D. s., sounds a lot like b. s. It costs what, 40 grand to incarcerate for one year? You trying to say it would cost that much just to hang somebody? And I suppose you consider yourself the voice of reason. Libbies tough on crime for 25 years now? Who are the greatest opponents to the death sentence? Just who are the ones opposed to forced prison labor? Just who are the ones opposed to executing, muders, rapists, and while we're at it, how about kidnappers for ransom, and traitors, seditionists, and those convicted of treason.
If we executed all the rapists that would probably eliminate at least half the prison population right there for once incarcerated they rape each other. The rest we lease to Liberia or Sierra Leon or some other prison/work colony and make them earn their bread by the sweat of their brow-just like everybody else. There any reason why this would't work? Your saying the libs would go along with this? Why not? You trying to say this would be unreasonable?
The current system is not working and there is no moral justification for sponsoring criminals via tax dollars. We've been dong this for years and years and it simply is not working and will only continue not to work. Countries far poorer than us have no where near the crime problem we do. Reason? Because the punishments are something would be criminals don't want to deal with not because of tax/cash flow and no it would't be necessary to amputate the hands of thieves. If they knew that they would be pounding rocks or some similar work until they had earned enough for restituiton for their victim AND the cost of prosecution and incarceration then they would't be so quick to steal. Remember the chain gangs? They worked until the libs did away with them under the guise of "rights". The current legal/penal system, as opposed to justice system, is to blame for not eliminating this evil. Trying to blame the taxpayer for this tragedy is vile and is almost as vile as expecting the taxpayer to support these characters for the rest of their lives. One appeal, (maybe), then swing time. "Reasonable" solutions? Hence Sjodins.

[The Democrat]

Due process is a b****, isn't it? Yep, you can save $$$ by doing away with jury trials and appeals, if you're not squeamish about jailing or executing innocent people. After all "collateral damage" is an unavoidable fact of life, right?

As a point of information, it costs $2 - $3 million, on average, to execute someone in the U.S. I thought everyone knew that, but I guess there's always one or two who didn't get the word.

You can't cut the prison population in half by executing all the rapists, because 2/3rds of the prisoners are in for drug offenses. But then, you've never been one to let facts interfere with your talking points, so don't worry about it.

I won't ask how you define "sedition" or "treason." I don't want to know ...

[The Democrat]

Oh yeah, before I forget, if a winger wet his pants he'd blame it on the libs. Everything is the libs' fault. If an asteroid atomizes Earth that will be our fault too, but at least we won't have to listen to the wingers ca-caw-cawing like a flock of crows anymore.

[esoxlucius]

Who said anything about doing away with due process. You call 20 years of appeals based on technicalities due process? Again, just more d s. You trying to say it would cost 3 mil. just to hang somebody? More d s. You trying to say that those incarcerated don't rape each other. More d s. Well actually thats just out and out untrue. These not so little details you so conveinently omit from your precarious position....
Oh btw, you mentioned something about libs being tough on crime and some actually pro capital punishment. You betcha. Any chance you heard about the police officer just murdered in San Fran a few days ago. The D. A., Kamala Harris, a card carrying liberal, stated that she would not pursue the death penalty so that she could fulfill her campaign pledge to not do so. Of course one would't be surprised if you had't heard of the murder. The tough on crime and pro cap punishment press all but ignored the story and the decision not to impose the death penalty. To bad. This murderer will probably be out in 10 years and teaching ethnic studies at Berkly U.C.
Ummm, bet your kinda wishin' that asteroid was on it's way.

[esoxlucius]

Oh, almost forgot. Those that compromise the collective security of this country to our enemies should be hung. You got a problem with that too? Oh, thats right, you did't want to know.

[Ric]

Sure you can execute, when they are transported across state lines. It's now a Federal case.