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madgrandad
08-08-2004, 11:59 AM
Fished oahe last week end---the bite was a little slow, and the water was crowded. (Little bend area) Finally found a point with no one around. We worked the point for a few min. and found a tight school of active fish so I tossed a marker out---BIG MISTAKE. Within a few min. we had three guide boats and their clients on top of us, and I mean all four of us within 20 ft. of each other. They actually pushed us off our marker. The guides all caught fish on our marker, but their clients never had a hit. The school was that tight. Now this ain't my first rodeo, and I realize I didn't owne those fish or that point, but what ever happened to common couretsy?----------I gues I would just like to know if this was an isolated case or if anyone else has had this happen to them on Oahe.
LoveFishing
08-08-2004, 03:17 PM
Well granddad,
This is not an isolated case and happens on all waters. I am not sure about the Oahe guides but one thing I did to help me... buy a GPS. I got a Garmin 162 gps last year and love it. I have even had people try to follow and fish the same spot, especially in spring when I drift... too hard to guess, but with the gps I can go back and drift or work the same area. If I loose the fish... I just keep working one way or other from the tracking lines until I find the fish.
I am going to Oahe this week... West Whitlock, I bought a trailer there earlier this year, but only fished there once. It was during tournament time.... ugh and the boat ramp was getting low. I think I will leave my boat home... I am not real familiar with the water and I didn't buy the trailer just for one year. I will go work on the trailer and vacation a little. I am going fishing tomorrow at our local lake... Angostura. We only have one decent dock but at least I know the lake real well... going to pull plugs behind boards!!
Keep your chin up and work hard at not being like the jerks, and believe me it is tough. We are responsible for ourselves... and of course we pass on how we act to our grandkids.
From one granddad to another... get a gps!!
God Bless... Dave
fishing guide
08-08-2004, 07:17 PM
I am a guide on Lake Oahe and I can tell you that about everyday I fish and choose to throw out a marker, that is an open invitation to anyone fishing on the lake to move in. It sucks, but that is the way it works and usually it is people without guides that are moving in. Fishing has been dynamite lately even though the fish are moving deep, try going to a area that is not so crowded, the fish have been biting south of little bend to the dam without much fishing pressure. Better luck next time.
Been There
08-08-2004, 09:41 PM
LMAO
That has happened to me and here is what I do and have done. Take your anchor out and proceed to throw it in the direction of the offending boat/boats and make big spashes and generally make it real difficult for them to fish. Pull that anchor in and do it again. It is IMPOSSIBLE for some jerk that has the nerve to put his boat within 20 foot of you to fish. If you get tired of throwing a big anchor, try taking your paddle and hit the water. He will get the hint real quick.
i like to trick those types. if i have to use a marker i'll put it just out of casting distance from my boat on the upwind side.
"ya' don't need a weathervane to know which way the wind blows"
Been there
08-08-2004, 09:49 PM
You may do that in MN, but if you do that in an open water fishing scenario in Michigan and I will make your fishing life a miserable fishing Hades. I would NEVER be that much of a LOW LIFE to get within casting distance of ANYBODY with a marker out. casting distance is regarded as 50-75 feet in all directions from his marker. IT is called ethics and being courteous on the water unlike some guides in MN. River situations on vertical jigging is entirely different.
moron
08-08-2004, 09:59 PM
just ram them,they will get the hint.
been there
08-08-2004, 10:21 PM
Nah, ramming them is a little too extreme. I like the Kamakazi approach of "If I can't have it, so neither will you".
typically, I will use the gps to mark a good shot.
However, if it is really busy, I wll often put a couple of decoy markers out.
I will put them 50-100 yards down wind from where the fish are biting.
I let the vultures move in, and then I go back up wind to work the school. When it is crowded: I will never use a net, and will land the fish on the non crowd side of the boat.
Take care
REW
sdperchfisher
08-08-2004, 10:34 PM
Next time that happens, just find a real good snag and throw out the marker close to it. We use to throw a marker out in one location I fished near chamberlain to mark and snag, and over the years I have been tempted to hire a diver just to see how much crap was hung up on that one.
The Bullhead
08-09-2004, 05:51 AM
I am amazed at the negative responces here.
Oahe is a big lake. Pull your marker up, and relocate. Dont reciprocate the rudeness, it really doesnt make any of you different from the original offender.
Oh I think there's a really simple solution. If someone crowds you, politely ask them to give you room to fish the spot, and point out that you were there fishing first. Politely. If it's a guide with a client in the boat, he won't make a huge stink about it for fear of looking like a jerk in front of a paying customer. If it's just some jerk who thinks he owns the water, there's nothing you can do anyway.
Dusty
Trophy
08-09-2004, 11:49 AM
A cast over his line if he's that close with a treble hook will do wonders. Snag his line, bring it to your boat and cut his line. If he doesn't get the hint, do it again.
Cooker
08-09-2004, 11:59 AM
>I am amazed at the negative responces here.
>
>"Oahe is a big lake." - Tell that to the guy that scammed my spot, not me.
>"Pull your marker up, and relocate." - I shouldn't have to. I was the one smart enough to find the spot by looking at a lake map, using my LCR, etc. They were only "smart" enough to use their binoculars.
>"Dont reciprocate the rudeness, it really doesnt make any of you
>different from the original offender." - Until someone calls these guys on their behaviour, they will just keep doing it. I AM different from the original offender - Because I AM right and he is wrong.
Those kind of ideas are all great for venting frustration online, but I doubt they'll actually help anything.
Dusty
madgrandad
08-09-2004, 02:42 PM
Dusty---Prehaps in a perfict world being polite, as sweet as suger, and politicly correct would get you the proper response. But this ain't it. Did I mention that all the guides caught fish and their clients didn't? Not once did any of the guides turn around to check on the guyes fishing in the back of the boat. This tells me that they didn' care about anything but catching fish themselves. It just proves my theory that some days there are more jerks in boats than on the end of our lines. --------Be polite? Not to those jerks.