Anyone know if the schedule for the rcl 2005 tournament trail
is out yet. Any word on where they might be fishing?

usually it's announced at the championship.We'll know in about 4 weeks.

detroit river
lake erie
devils lake
and the last is either keweenau or bays de noc

ANyone know the date for Devil's Lake

The sites for 05 will be announced at the Championship.

THird week of June.

I would not reserve any rooms for the Detroit river. Think south

I heard that now they weren't going to be at Devils Lake. Is that true?

A very smart little bird in the know told me:

Bull Shoals
Erie
Green Bay
Devils lake

these are what I were confirmed from several little birds from different parts of the flyway.

I hate to post on something I don't know for sure but I do have a guess on what is going on. I think that Lund and Crestliner are going to be involved but they will pay bonuses separately. I think this is what Skeeter is going to do. In other words, if you place high in a RCL tournament, Skeeter will pay the bonus money to you, but it will not be paid at the tournament it will be paid later. If you make the last day you will be fishing out of a Ranger.

I don't think Irwin is about to buy Skeeter, forget that rumor, but it seems that Irwin has gotten pretty tight with Yamaha over this outboard dumping situation. And of course Yamaha owns Skeeter. And I think Irwin's pretty PO'd at Brunswick right now.

I don't think anyone knows how this is going to finally end up. But the way the dynamics are working out, There won't be any C and L bonuses unless they step up and do it on their own.

We're all still guessing.

The first tournament is the Detroit river ,Second is Lake Erie,The third is not known yet and the Forth is Devils Lake those three are in stone no guess.Also Crestliner and Lund still have contracts with FLW outdoors.So wait till you see something in writing first guys.

Nope. "Just a Guess"'s list is more than likely correct. From what I am hearing, his list would qualify as a bullseye.

So PWT AND RCL are going to Bull Shoals in '05?

I wouldn't doubt it one bit. They seem to be doing all they can to make the PWT's life miserable. The PWT was to come to Devils Lake in 2005. I heard the town and the casino had a gentleman's agreement that the town would have a large tourney one year and the casino the next. It was now the towns turn so they were working with the PWT. The RCL then went to the casino and got them to void the gentleman's agreement and trump the PWT. Just another case of "greed" I guess. Too bad for Devils Lake. The PWT offers so much more advertising for the area than the RCL.

TRY to use your head. Just because the RCL is going out of the Casino doesn't mean all the money stays at the Casino. The city of Devils Lake profits from the RCL being there too. All the hotels are full, the baitshops are utilized, and so are the restaurants and gas stations. The RCL brings in a FULL field of 175 (350 anglers), and the PWT has a hard time filling even a 120 man field (240 anglers),which circuit do you think they want here in town? More people=more money for the city.
The PWT was asking far and above what the city is willing to pay to have them here, which is probably the ONLY reason the PWT is not going to be fishing Devils Lake in 2005.

So, the next time you have "hear say" to whine about, get the story straight.

Better yet, the moderators should just delete your pathetic RCL bashing comments since it was all hear say anyway.

The RCL is a top notch circuit, and we love having them visit Devils Lake! I hope they come back every year!

Actually, the town is full of fisher-people tourists every weekend, all summer, without either the PWT or RCL. I avoid Devils Lake when PWT or RCL is in town.

I would like to see the PWT here....I would like to see Ted T. I would like to see the Tracker boys(I'd think Johnnie would want to fish here)...I'd like to see the Yar crafts & other boats...

How many pro's skipped the RCL here last year to pre-fish the Cass PWT???

>How many pro's skipped the RCL here last year to pre-fish the
>Cass PWT???
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Not many, there was still a full field of a 175 boats! Those who skipped it were few and they had already made their points to make the Championship in previous events. The PWT has done it again for next year making it impossible for those who WANT to fish both circuits, by scheduling their tournaments the week before or after the RCL. The RCL was waiting at one point to confirm dates with the PWT, but the PWT went ahead and did their schedule without talking to the RCL people. The RCL does all they can to work with the PWT, but unfortunately the PWT doesn't do the same. That will turn out to be their biggest mistake.

I know there were boats...I went out at 171, it was a wild ride...03 there was almost 200.

there'll be no problem getting pros who want to fish here & as a co I'd fish the RCL over the PWT($$$)....& will keep fishing RCL as a co.

I just want to see some of the non-R, C, or L guys out here again...

I hear you.

Why, after this many years, should the PWT quit doing business as they always have? Just because the RCL is out there? The RCL, as good as it may be, are still the new kids on the block as far as walleye curcuits go. The PWT has many more sponsors (manufacturers) to apease than the RCL, and many of the pro's that fish the PWT were doing so before the RCL came along. In other words, it is the RCL, who more or less, is trying to steal the "show" from the PWT. Remember, it is alot easier for a pro to qualify for the RCL championship, than it is for them to qualify for the PWT championship.

It would be interesting to see the decisions the pros would make if the PWT and the RCL held their championships on the same dates next year! Which one would you choose to compete in?

I would choose the PWT Championship...

I would choose the PWT Championship...

I would think the chance to win 400,000 dollars, compared to the PWT payout would have to come in to play. The winning co in the RCL wins more than the winning pro in the PWT. The exposure of winning the PWT would for sure make up the difference though, some of the Past champions of the PWT havent done anything since winning that tournament and seem to have sponsors galore still.
I guess if you can fish them both would be the way to go. Of course since you cant fish the PWT championship as a co the RCL would definatly be the way to go as a co especially since you have a chance to win over 100,000.
I am curious to why the two circuits have to screw with each other the more walleye exposure the better that is why Bass is so big there everywhere, if the two could get along it would benifit the whole walleye community.
I guess for me I have fished 4 RCL tournaments and will fish the Championship in the RCL and have heard nothing but bad things from other co's who have fished the PWT, but of course now that they have lowered the amount of anglers to 120 you do have a better chance of getting a good pro in the PWT because I have definatly got a few wannabes that had a 1000 for the entry fee.(of course one of them provided my best finish)
I too would like to see the Keith K of the world able to fish the RCL.
MY VOTE THE RCL BY A SCALE,WHISKER, oops I MEAN TOOTH
but in answer to "another unlogged" as a pro if you qualified for the PWT championship you would have to fish it for the prestige.

I would think the chance to win 400,000 dollars, compared to the PWT payout would have to come in to play. The winning co in the RCL wins more than the winning pro in the PWT. The exposure of winning the PWT would for sure make up the difference though, some of the Past champions of the PWT havent done anything since winning that tournament and seem to have sponsors galore still.
I guess if you can fish them both would be the way to go. Of course since you cant fish the PWT championship as a co the RCL would definatly be the way to go as a co especially since you have a chance to win over 100,000.
I am curious to why the two circuits have to screw with each other the more walleye exposure the better that is why Bass is so big there everywhere, if the two could get along it would benifit the whole walleye community.
I guess for me I have fished 4 RCL tournaments and will fish the Championship in the RCL and have heard nothing but bad things from other co's who have fished the PWT, but of course now that they have lowered the amount of anglers to 120 you do have a better chance of getting a good pro in the PWT because I have definatly got a few wannabes that had a 1000 for the entry fee.(of course one of them provided my best finish)
I too would like to see the Keith K of the world able to fish the RCL.
MY VOTE THE RCL BY A SCALE,WHISKER, oops I MEAN TOOTH
but in answer to "another unlogged" as a pro if you qualified for the PWT championship you would have to fish it for the prestige.

PWT isn't worried about appeasing the RCL. PWT is working to reduce their fields so that they consist solely of the elite professionals. The disparity in the quality of the professionals fishing these circuits will continue to grow. Did anyone notice that several major professionals that run RCL boats did not fish the entire schedule this year in order to compete in the PWT. I think most of the pros will tell you that the PWT is clearly the more prestigous circuit. As a co, I'd fish the RCL for the cash and the PWT for the lessons.

PWT isn't worried about appeasing the RCL. PWT is working to reduce their fields so that they consist solely of the elite professionals. The disparity in the quality of the professionals fishing these circuits will continue to grow. Did anyone notice that several major professionals that run RCL boats did not fish the entire schedule this year in order to compete in the PWT. I think most of the pros will tell you that the PWT is clearly the more prestigous circuit. As a co, I'd fish the RCL for the cash and the PWT for the lessons.

If it's really about the cash, one should be entered as a pro or fish local and area cash tourneys.

Winning cash in the RCL should be a purely random event for a co as long as all rules are being followed.

A well definied qualifing process with definied rules to fish under and the authority to make everyone accountable is what keeps the competors happy. Good exposure outside of a place like a website esp. main stream media dosn't hurt.

And a smooth weigh-in.

GoFish!

If it's really about the cash, one should be entered as a pro or fish local and area cash tourneys.

Winning cash in the RCL should be a purely random event for a co as long as all rules are being followed.

A well definied qualifing process with definied rules to fish under and the authority to make everyone accountable is what keeps the competors happy. Good exposure outside of a place like a website esp. main stream media dosn't hurt.

And a smooth weigh-in.

GoFish!

Economics 101, you have the wrong name. I believe it should be "lack of Economics 101". First of all, the story is straight. The reason they aren't coming has NOTHING to do with the cost. The deal had been made. And yes, we all realize that what benefits one place benefits all. But, what rocket scientist would schedule a large tournament during the areas busiest tourism time. At the end of June, the area doesn't need a big tourney like this. All the motels and resorts are already full. The PWT was scheduled to come in mid May. A time when most motels have very low occupancy rates. Including the Casino.

So, next time before you speak you may want to get your facts straight and take a "real" Economics 101 and maybe a Marketing 101 class.

Economics 101, you have the wrong name. I believe it should be "lack of Economics 101". First of all, the story is straight. The reason they aren't coming has NOTHING to do with the cost. The deal had been made. And yes, we all realize that what benefits one place benefits all. But, what rocket scientist would schedule a large tournament during the areas busiest tourism time. At the end of June, the area doesn't need a big tourney like this. All the motels and resorts are already full. The PWT was scheduled to come in mid May. A time when most motels have very low occupancy rates. Including the Casino.

So, next time before you speak you may want to get your facts straight and take a "real" Economics 101 and maybe a Marketing 101 class.