: Should they send out hunter/killer teams to stop the an...
09-02-2005, 05:37 AM
Should they send out hunter/killer teams to stop the anarchy gangs in the areas hit by the hurricane ? They already have orders to shot to kill if needed. But should they look to engauge and stop these gangs right here right now. Not s******ing them without provocation ,but any engagement that offers any lethal comeback from gangs, crush that problem with full deadly force.
09-02-2005, 05:40 AM
Snippering them, Not s******ing them (
shot should be shoot....opps should be oops
09-02-2005, 06:30 AM
This may seem negative but it's not intended to be. In my opinion using deadly force to stop looting and pillaging won't happen- it's not politically acceptable and we all know why. Before its all said and done the media will brainwash the majority into believing it was not the looter's fault, everyone will blame the government for the catastrophe, and the rest of the country will spend 100's of billions to rebuild a city on a site where the liklihood of the event ocurring again is 100%. What a mess. My heart goes out to all those folks affected, but I hate the blame game that's already started. I just pray the evacuation proceeds quickly, that folks get the attention they need, and that the criminal element get what they deserve.
09-02-2005, 06:51 AM
Same stuff happened during the Rodney King fiasco. Police wouldn't respond to looting so the Korean store owners took it upon themselves and went on the rooftops and started killing looters with surplus Mi Garands 30/06s. The news media barely covered it. NOT 1 Korean was ever convicted or arrested and rightfully so. To stop looting you have to kill a couple people or it spreads like wildfire. If the cops won't do it, The store owners have to protect their property against lack of lawenforcement and TOTAL ANARCHY. LAW OF THE JUNGLE TIME. KILL OR BE KILLED. The political correctness goes right out the door when somebody is going to steal something that belongs to you and could save your life.
09-02-2005, 07:03 AM
everyone will not blame the federal government for the hurricane, however, the federal government has failed horribly to provide for its citizens in time of need, its a shameful thing to see. a god #### shameful time in our history. i cannot image living one day in that #### hole. can you imagine what it is like to live through the night down there? its no wonder why people are losing control, this is primal stuff here
09-02-2005, 07:14 AM
Sorry, I don't agree with you. I thought that the response was immediate.
The mayors are lamenting that the Federal government is too slow. Bottom line, where were they when it came time to evacuate these people? They should have responded quicker with buses and other transport.
Just Rip Lips and Keep a Tight Line
09-02-2005, 07:29 AM
Yes...if the dog turns vicious shoot it.
09-02-2005, 07:40 AM
I have to agree with you. There was an order for everyone to evacuate. Had that order been carried out there would not be all the thousands of people stranded in New Orleans.
The time to use martial law was BEFORE the storm hit by removing everyone from the area, and by force if needed.
As for shooting the looters, I would not be against it. I don't want to think that my donation to the relief effort will aid those individuals in anyway whatsoever. The world will be a better place if they aren't in it any more.
09-02-2005, 08:31 AM
If you shoot to kill it had better be a white shooting a white or a black shooting a black or you will have more chaos from both the legal system and the local environment.
09-02-2005, 08:35 AM
Right now I hear a lot of blame pointed toward the Federal govt. I just dont get it. What about the state and city? Did they have nothing in place for an immediate response?
The Feds need to cover an extire nation-remember this same hurricane just moved across Florida a week ago?
I dont see how local Govt can sit there and beg for help and complain that it isnt coming fast enough. Why arent they 1st in line to respond to this crisis. We get a 40" snowfall in MN and we dont wait for snow plows to come up in from Colorado to help us.
What I have found really troubling about this is how in the heck are the media getting in and out of these areas? Are they bringing all the food and water that they can? Are they taking as many people as they can out with them? If not, is it responsible to cover the news as people are dying? What is more important, ratings or human lives?
LA is filled with lakes, rivers, and swamps. If this was happening in your back yard, how long would it take you to hitch up your boat and start dragging people out. I would be there in under an hour.
09-02-2005, 08:59 AM
CNN etc., et al. have been literally chomping at the bit to lay the blame for this catastrophe on the Bush administration and donít give a hoot whoís really to blame.
BTW, donít forget that the local Government youíre referring to is mainly comprised of members of a different political party; so CNN and their ilk simply canít blame those folks for anything.
09-02-2005, 09:19 AM
I think that the government should use whatever level of force is required to restore order to the area. If you look at the LA riots it took quite a while to restore order there. The flooding only complicates the matter. Add to that the fact that a lot of the troops are deployed overseas.
Apparently the local police force is ineffective in controlling the violence as in the LA riots. Not to mention that they caught one of the local police on tape looting with the others.
Until order is restored, the only form of protection is self protection. I think that our forefathers truly knew what they were doing when they ratified the 2nd amendment.
09-02-2005, 09:24 AM
GWB today said the response has been 'unacceptable' from the Federal systems.
There's no way the states can do anything. A huge portion of their resources have been wiped out. Loiusiana amd Mississippi are totally devastated. There are thousands of foreign rescue units, electric workers, engineers etc., waiting to come help. They've been asked to sit tight until a plan is developed.
There should be HUNDREDS of jet-skis combing the flooded areas moving people out. Finally a good use for jet-skis.
As for shooting looters...
I ask myself, if I was stuck there would I be stealing water and food from flooded stores to feed my family....I probably would if I had no other choice.
The people stealing TV's and stuff...that I don't get. What are you going to do with a TV?
Evacuation for many was not an option. They did not have cars, there were no busses. No one even knew there were a few thousand stuck in the convention center untill Thursday.
Sorry...edited to correct state.
09-02-2005, 09:41 AM
Missouri.....? I live in Springfield and everything here is pretty much normal..........
09-02-2005, 10:35 AM
I'm with shooting them but even more importantly I'm with the media not covering it so much. The national media is an ENEMY of this country. They are treacherous and treasonous. I gave up watching them long ago and only picked it up recently to watch the hurricane progress. It wasn't long after the storm hit they were back to their old self and damaging our great country again. Shoot looters? I can think of one better target...............
09-02-2005, 10:48 AM
I'm neither a staunch Rep. or Dem. That being said, the media's efforts to keep us informed are even more vital while the same party contols the House, the Senate, and the White House.
Thank God for the 1st Amendment!
09-02-2005, 10:54 AM
>I'm with shooting them but even more importantly I'm with the
>media not covering it so much. The national media is an ENEMY
>of this country. They are treacherous and treasonous. I gave
>up watching them long ago and only picked it up recently to
>watch the hurricane progress. It wasn't long after the storm
>hit they were back to their old self and damaging our great
>country again. Shoot looters? I can think of one better
Well I know who he voted for.
09-02-2005, 11:51 AM
You can't possibly know who I voted for. Read a book by it's cover? I don't think so.
09-02-2005, 03:35 PM
Shooting looters?? Even in a 3rd world country they would only catch a beating. I would have no problem if someone tear gassed them until they dropped the TV and I would say that might be a good idea to restore some order to the area. I think there should have been armed gaurds sent in(police, national gaurd..etc) as soon as that storm looked like it would break so these looters and theives would be stopped before they turned into a mob. Preventing is easier than stopping these situations.
They can blame anyone they want and as always it will do no good. The problem is that it has been happening to often and no one gets smart. It doesn't matter how, why or what but when you tick off that many people they riot and take everything that isn't bolted down. Drop some tear gas on them and they aren't so hard to handle. No one has to get shot but it seems like they need to get their attention some time soon.