Night Trolling

[Steve B]

Got on the water about 9:15 pm. Caught four 15"ers that went back. At 12:30, the fish turned on like a switch. Caught three tickets by 1:30. One just shy of 7#, a couple 4#ers, and a few 3#ers. Rest were 18-20"ers

13 FOW, shallow big Reef Runners, 125 to 140' back. Not another boat in sight. No sweating your butt off, no swatting black flies the whole time, just catching fish.

[Steve B]

Got on the water about 9:15 pm. Caught four 15"ers that went back. At 12:30, the fish turned on like a switch. Caught three tickets by 1:30. One just shy of 7#, a couple 4#ers, and a few 3#ers. Rest were 18-20"ers

13 FOW, shallow big Reef Runners, 125 to 140' back. Not another boat in sight. No sweating your butt off, no swatting black flies the whole time, just catching fish.

[Peerlessfisherman]

Where were you fishing out of?

[Peerlessfisherman]

Where were you fishing out of?

[Steve B]

my buddy's Lund

[Steve B]

my buddy's Lund

[perchjerker]

oh thats helpful

[perchjerker]

oh thats helpful

[FishOnZ]

Real nice reply ...

how about a location...... and i not an "lake Erie" answer either!!


FishOn

[FishOnZ]

Real nice reply ...

how about a location...... and i not an "lake Erie" answer either!!


FishOn

[Steve B]

Not trying to be a jerk, but last time my buddy tried to be helpful, the honey hole turned into a parking lot the next night.

I've heard great night trolling reports from good friends from Catawba to Erie Pa.

All you need to do is get out there, and drag some baits.

[Steve B]

Not trying to be a jerk, but last time my buddy tried to be helpful, the honey hole turned into a parking lot the next night.

I've heard great night trolling reports from good friends from Catawba to Erie Pa.

All you need to do is get out there, and drag some baits.

[bob oh]

Why bother to post then?

rod bender bob

[bob oh]

Why bother to post then?

rod bender bob

[who knows]

Check OGF someone said where they where fishing cranberry

[who knows]

Check OGF someone said where they where fishing cranberry

[Steve B]

>Why bother to post then?
>
>rod bender bob

To let you know there is a hot night bite. My buddy has been working this same place for the past couple of weeks. Yesterday I had the privelege of being asked if I wanted to go with him. I did, and I was grateful for the invite. I'm not about to give away his honey hole.

The fish still might be there, they might have moved on, who knows. As stated before, the bite is hot just about everywhere. Get out there.

[Steve B]

>Why bother to post then?
>
>rod bender bob

To let you know there is a hot night bite. My buddy has been working this same place for the past couple of weeks. Yesterday I had the privelege of being asked if I wanted to go with him. I did, and I was grateful for the invite. I'm not about to give away his honey hole.

The fish still might be there, they might have moved on, who knows. As stated before, the bite is hot just about everywhere. Get out there.

[zpeters73]

Telling everyone that there is a hot night bite and then not even giving so much as a geographic hint is a lot like answering the question, "Who won the game," with "they did." Except instead, the question is "where are the fish biting," to which you reply "there."

It's not a fishing report, so I'm with bob - why bother typing it out?

[zpeters73]

Telling everyone that there is a hot night bite and then not even giving so much as a geographic hint is a lot like answering the question, "Who won the game," with "they did." Except instead, the question is "where are the fish biting," to which you reply "there."

It's not a fishing report, so I'm with bob - why bother typing it out?

[Steve B]

When I'm on the water, piloting my own boat, I am more than happy to give out my program, and the numbers/location where it is working to those who come on the radio and ask for a walleye report.

When I'm a guest on someone elses boat, and someone asks the same question on the radio, I feel it is up to the captain of said boat if he wants to reply or not. I am a guest, it's not my decision.

Last night, I was a guest. If the guy I was fishing with wants to give out the location (he posts here), he can. If he wants to meet you at the dock, launch your boat for you, rig your lines, loan you a couple of the hot baits, and take you to the spot, god love em'.


The point of the post is, there is a hot nite bite. There has been for a long time. Get out there, find the fish, find the bait they want, and post your success story. I won't chastize you if you don't hold my hand to the dock, and reel my fish in.

[Steve B]

When I'm on the water, piloting my own boat, I am more than happy to give out my program, and the numbers/location where it is working to those who come on the radio and ask for a walleye report.

When I'm a guest on someone elses boat, and someone asks the same question on the radio, I feel it is up to the captain of said boat if he wants to reply or not. I am a guest, it's not my decision.

Last night, I was a guest. If the guy I was fishing with wants to give out the location (he posts here), he can. If he wants to meet you at the dock, launch your boat for you, rig your lines, loan you a couple of the hot baits, and take you to the spot, god love em'.


The point of the post is, there is a hot nite bite. There has been for a long time. Get out there, find the fish, find the bait they want, and post your success story. I won't chastize you if you don't hold my hand to the dock, and reel my fish in.

[C.J.]

Sometimes I think great reports like this are made to get other people to go out at night and do the leg work .My apollogies if I'm GUESSING wrong.
C.J.

[C.J.]

Sometimes I think great reports like this are made to get other people to go out at night and do the leg work .My apollogies if I'm GUESSING wrong.
C.J.

[BobinStow]

Steve B.........Not trying to be a jerk..............

Could fool the heck out of us!

Your integrity about honoring your buddies honey hole......is admirable......if honest.

No one has asked for a GPS location. Your buddies spot deserves to be respected by you..... as a guest on his boat........if he exists.

General areas....help people a lot......especially those with small boats fishing for food.....with limited gas budgets.

If ya cannt help people.......why post? Another wannabe?

[BobinStow]

Steve B.........Not trying to be a jerk..............

Could fool the heck out of us!

Your integrity about honoring your buddies honey hole......is admirable......if honest.

No one has asked for a GPS location. Your buddies spot deserves to be respected by you..... as a guest on his boat........if he exists.

General areas....help people a lot......especially those with small boats fishing for food.....with limited gas budgets.

If ya cannt help people.......why post? Another wannabe?

[Hawk Eye]

I agree...why bother to post....I think for cyber-attention. I don't night fish much, but at least a CITY would be reasonable. Like the night bite is hot in San Antonio, Texas or Cleveland, Ohio

The walleyes are always biting somewhere on Lake Erie...day and night.

[Hawk Eye]

I agree...why bother to post....I think for cyber-attention. I don't night fish much, but at least a CITY would be reasonable. Like the night bite is hot in San Antonio, Texas or Cleveland, Ohio

The walleyes are always biting somewhere on Lake Erie...day and night.

[Boatnut]

Steve,
I understand about the night bite thing on Erie and how folks like to keep a tight lid on it at times. I admire you for respecting your buddies wishes about not broadcasting numbers/exact area etc. I do however think it might of added some credibility to your post to at LEAST say on what body of water you were on! :) And maybe even a "general area".
Just my 2 cents.

[Boatnut]

Steve,
I understand about the night bite thing on Erie and how folks like to keep a tight lid on it at times. I admire you for respecting your buddies wishes about not broadcasting numbers/exact area etc. I do however think it might of added some credibility to your post to at LEAST say on what body of water you were on! :) And maybe even a "general area".
Just my 2 cents.

[Steve B]

Unbelievable. So after posting here for three years, giving out info freely, helping out when I can, asking questions when I can't, I've decided to keep a buddy's hotspot secret, and immediately I'm lowered to an internet liar that's never reeled in a walleye.

You've got to be kiidin me.

What if I said it happened in Maumme Bay? What if I said it happened off the docks at 72nd St.? Whats the difference.

I bet the majority of you are the ones that I hear on the radio saying "BillyBob, this is Slim, just boxed my fifteenth ticket, call me on the cell phone"

[Steve B]

Unbelievable. So after posting here for three years, giving out info freely, helping out when I can, asking questions when I can't, I've decided to keep a buddy's hotspot secret, and immediately I'm lowered to an internet liar that's never reeled in a walleye.

You've got to be kiidin me.

What if I said it happened in Maumme Bay? What if I said it happened off the docks at 72nd St.? Whats the difference.

I bet the majority of you are the ones that I hear on the radio saying "BillyBob, this is Slim, just boxed my fifteenth ticket, call me on the cell phone"

[jake]

yep, you're getting warm. without a few details the only one trolling is you. sh!t or get off the pot. besides, without registration nobody knows just how helpful you may have been in the past. there could be any number of guys posting as "steve b". and in billy bob's case, at least he would be only jerking his friend around and at least we would know he was within a 15 mile radius.



when we lose the 2nd. amendment the others will be history too!

[jake]

yep, you're getting warm. without a few details the only one trolling is you. sh!t or get off the pot. besides, without registration nobody knows just how helpful you may have been in the past. there could be any number of guys posting as "steve b". and in billy bob's case, at least he would be only jerking his friend around and at least we would know he was within a 15 mile radius.



when we lose the 2nd. amendment the others will be history too!

[ERIE REBEL]

Radio fish are one thing.but what you left here on W.C.was just as bad.I ALWAYS post honest reports with honest locations and how toos to get the same fish that I caught that same day.My two cents worth.

[ERIE REBEL]

Radio fish are one thing.but what you left here on W.C.was just as bad.I ALWAYS post honest reports with honest locations and how toos to get the same fish that I caught that same day.My two cents worth.

[Pond scum]

You are an unregistered user that is posting useless information. This is a spot for fisherman to share useful information. Your information is not useful, so you should not have posted. You do not even post what body of water you were on. Only from seeing the post on OGF do we know it was Erie. This is still useless information, as everyone knows the bite is hot on Erie right now, day or night. We are not being critical of you for protecting a spot that is not yours. You should have not even posted and just left it alone. As far as people are concerned at this point, any information from you will not be trusted. Oh yea I forgot, you are an unregistered user, so you could log in under any name and take advantage of the useful information that most people post here. I hope you get the point by now.

[Pond scum]

You are an unregistered user that is posting useless information. This is a spot for fisherman to share useful information. Your information is not useful, so you should not have posted. You do not even post what body of water you were on. Only from seeing the post on OGF do we know it was Erie. This is still useless information, as everyone knows the bite is hot on Erie right now, day or night. We are not being critical of you for protecting a spot that is not yours. You should have not even posted and just left it alone. As far as people are concerned at this point, any information from you will not be trusted. Oh yea I forgot, you are an unregistered user, so you could log in under any name and take advantage of the useful information that most people post here. I hope you get the point by now.

[Papascot]

Steve I wouldn't worry a bit about these guys. You told what your program was and depth of water, everything but location and I think that is fine. Alot of these same guys never give a fishing report just general comments on others threads. I will help everyone out I can but I will no longer give out locations, I will help with programs depth of water etc etc. No better way to get a fishing buddy POed than to turn his spot into a parking lot.

Scott

[Papascot]

Steve I wouldn't worry a bit about these guys. You told what your program was and depth of water, everything but location and I think that is fine. Alot of these same guys never give a fishing report just general comments on others threads. I will help everyone out I can but I will no longer give out locations, I will help with programs depth of water etc etc. No better way to get a fishing buddy POed than to turn his spot into a parking lot.

Scott

[Daily limit]

What a bunch of babies. If you can't catch walleye this year you have bigger problems than location or GPS numbers. Go out at night and fish the shoreline anywhere from Toledo to Ripley.
DL

[Daily limit]

What a bunch of babies. If you can't catch walleye this year you have bigger problems than location or GPS numbers. Go out at night and fish the shoreline anywhere from Toledo to Ripley.
DL

[Hmmm]

Actually, I've wondered about your reports before this. You say 13 fow? All the other reports, (Central basin), say 60-70 fow where water temps are much, much, cooler. The veracity of your report is indeed very questionable.

[Hmmm]

Actually, I've wondered about your reports before this. You say 13 fow? All the other reports, (Central basin), say 60-70 fow where water temps are much, much, cooler. The veracity of your report is indeed very questionable.

[Got One]

Steve B has given numerous reports stating date, time, program and location, When he was the captain of his own boat. He's just showing the respect of not giving the location this time. I (if asked) would do the same , as I'm sure alot of you would.Steve,Thanks for the info you have given us,I will try your program in the area I fish!!

[Steve B]

>You are an unregistered user that is posting useless
>information. This is a spot for fisherman to share useful
>information. Your information is not useful, so you should
>not have posted. You do not even post what body of water you
>were on. Only from seeing the post on OGF do we know it was
>Erie. This is still useless information, as everyone knows
>the bite is hot on Erie right now, day or night. We are not
>being critical of you for protecting a spot that is not yours.
> You should have not even posted and just left it alone. As
>far as people are concerned at this point, any information
>from you will not be trusted. Oh yea I forgot, you are an
>unregistered user, so you could log in under any name and take
>advantage of the useful information that most people post
>here. I hope you get the point by now.

All I can say to you is that your screen name fits you well. I have been posting as Steve B for three years. If I am not to be trusted, and I don't give a rats a$$ if you trust me or not, just check my trader feedback over at OGF. You can tell by reading it that I am an untruthful son of a ####.

as for Hmmm, the guy that was nice enough to ask me to be a guest on his boat last night had been catching the fish for the past two weeks in 7' of water. Your lack of knowlegde for the walleye is laughable. Everyone knows that you can only catch walleye at night in 70 FOW. You're pathetic.

[shortdrift]

Been following this post with a great degree of amusement regarding the comments directed toward Steve. As I read them I began to wonder why the various individuals (Papascot,Daily Limit and Got One excluded) fihd it necessary to offer the comments they did rather than simply let it pass or be a bit more polite in posing a question or making comments.

Well, it happens that I am the person that took Steve and another friend out, knowing that they would not open the door to all the individuals that continually rely on other persons reports to find fish. Seems there are quite a few here, but with that being said I will offer some information that should help those less inclined to "#### or get off the pot" and put in some exploration time like we did.

Leave the Vermilion river around 8:30pm, turn to the East, shut down your main motor and start quietly trolling with boards and flatlines. Back 40 to 90 feet on the boards and 175 to 225 on the flatlines. Maintain 2.1 to 2.7 mph in 7 (yes Hmmmm,7 feet of depth)to 15 feet deep until you blunder into some fish or for the more gifted, recognize suitable structure and the adjacent deep water drop off requirement. Fish each of the locations you find for as long as it takes to determine what potential it has of attracting and holding fish. A shortcut to up your odds is to motor out from the drop off into deeper water and see if fish are staging out there. Again, does take time but should prove helpful.

There you have it gentlemen(?). All the information you could ask for to get you headed in the right direction. Don't expect to get into the fish at any precise time as the bite has been anywhere between 9:30pm and 12:30am. We fished from 9 until 12 Tuesday night with only four throwbacks and one 20" keeper and then the larger fish moved in and we limited (18 fish) by 2:30. Surface temperature in 14FOW was 80.1 when we started and 79.8 when we finished!

Well, that is it as far as Walleye Night Trolling 101 for those who needed it and as I learned it by trial and error plus asking for help in a civil and polite fashion.

Thanks Steve for tolerating all the crap.

[BobinStow]

Shortdrift......thanks for the tutorial. We learn from each other and your comments are instructional. As a second year student of walleye, I look for real help about techniques, general area etc.

A response like "my buddies Lund" is a non response. It irritates people and causes them to seriously question credibility. imo, that comment from Steve is what solicited the responses.

Speaking for myself, that answer from Steve struck me as evasive and pompous. It provided no info whatsoever.

Noone is obligated to post .....or to help others at this or any other fishing site.

Posting suggests a willingness to share info and help people interested in the same sport.

Answers like west of Cleveland, near Lorain, or near Vermilion would likely not ruffle anyones feathers and would also preserve exact locations for those who worked to find them.

As fishermen, we do not want our best spots given away. There are many answers between gps coordinates and "my buddies Lund".

Steve....I was not trying to bust yours.......but it's your response that drew the fire.

I'm done. Maybe I am all wrong.......but thats my 2 cents.

Good luck on the water.....be safe.

[Reel Magic]

I have to chime in I have been night fishing since ice out I have not posted here because of the type of comments Steve received. Some of us have spent years putting together a program that works. If you would read carefully over time you will put 2 and 2 together and come up with a program that works for you. Short drift is right its almost funny how mad people get over not having to "hole" picture. I have had people mad at me over not giving them a fishing report that would have sent them out over bad ice. Be mad no big deal, if some one ends up in the water and I sent them there its an issue. So I carefully provide fishing info on here and as some of you know I will not bull #### ya. No secret fishing has been great this year. So go fishing have fun and quit BI#####.

[ezmarc]

IMO a response like "in my buddies Lund" got the reaction it was asking for.

[eyestopper]

OGF member here under a different name. I will very strongly back Steve B.!! If you are cathing fish this year, than you are doing things right. If you need locations and gps marks and all the info. you can get, it probably won't matter.

[5 Stroke]

Steve--thanks for posting your "hint". Never even gave the night bite a thought considering how awesome daytime fishing has been. In the same situation I may have done the same---it wasn't your pattern to reveal but it was good of you to share. If you benefit from the specifics that many guys post on this site you should be prepared to share also. In this case it was up to your captain to post a report. Did he benefit from information in the past? Did somebody post information that was used? If so, then he should post his pattern, especially since it seems to be coming out of Lake Erie. I thought we had an "honor system" going here--take information/give information. I think that most of us on WC are sophisticated enough to fill in the blanks and can do without the condescending attitude contained in your and your captain's responses.
5 Stroke

[jake]

shortdrift
you and steve b. are way off on the need to protect info.
as BobinStow said

<Posting suggests a willingness to share info and help people interested in the same sport.>

without a little hint of location this "report" is worthless. this season i've made 6 reports on this site and every one of them has enough detail the any decent fisherman could go there and catch fish. imho, limiting info is overrated especially on the great lakes. i've given guys exact positions and presentation and they couldn't duplicate what i did on the same day. then you get to the aspect of night fishing. how many times do you come in at 11:00 or 12:00 at night and find a crowded launch? in my experience when i do i'm among the last 3 boats to come in and i'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you are too. as others have said and you have alluded to, there are fish everywhere out there this year. not a lot of big ones but, plenty of the nice eating size. i don't think there is such a thing as too much information, even information that is shared by friends. i belong to a group that fishes the det. river and western erie. some of those in the group will only share within the group and don't post here. on the other hand, i feel that there is a need to inform a bigger group.
thanks for bring us up to speed with a very detailed report. i feel that when you turn right tonight at 9:00 that you will have all the water you want to fish in for yourself. steve should try to take this as constructive criticism for it never got personal or turned into a bash. we are only trying to get someone to "feel our pain". if it had gotten personal it would have been nuked in a heartbeat. so, thanks again for the fine report and tight lines.
jake




when we lose the 2nd. amendment the others will be history too!

[Steve B]

I guess I should have add a "LOL" after my response of 'in my buddy's Lund', as I have seen others do after they replied 'in lake Erie' when asked where they caught their fish.

I never thought it would go this far, and upset so many people. The remark was thrown out purely for chuckle factor, not to be pompous, or arrogant.

[perchjerker]

yes you are right.

a little :) goes a long way on a message board as no one can see you, or hear the joking in your voice. Its not like talking to someone face to face so sometimes you have go out of your way to make sure people know you are kidding or they will take things the wrong way.

[FostoriaOhTodd]

Don't let the WC winers get to ya Steve. There are so many people on this sight that have to have the exact location, depth, bait used, time of day, diameter of line used, kind of boat used, exact speed trolled, and whether you had your mouth open or not before they can catch anything its rediculous. All we have to do is apply the information that Steve gave us to our favorite body of water, be it erie or were ever, and give it a try. Good lord poeple.

[Peerlessfisherman]

Sorry I asked! Didn't really need to know, I was just curious. Gotta be the heat, everyones on edge.

[shortdrift]

>Don't let the WC winers get to ya Steve. There are so many
>people on this sight that have to have the exact location,
>depth, bait used, time of day, diameter of line used, kind of
>boat used, exact speed trolled, and whether you had your mouth
>open or not before they can catch anything its rediculous.
>All we have to do is apply the information that Steve gave us
>to our favorite body of water, be it erie or were ever, and
>give it a try. Good lord poeple.
************************************************** *************

Not a single thank you from that group after posting my Walleye Night Trolling 101, complete with the river name which I assumed would explain that I was referring to Lake Erie as well as depth and technique. Guess I also forgot to define the crankbait as well as the color which has been different each time we have been out.

I must appologize for not getting the information on the site immediately and prior to Steve's bashing, but I do have responsibilities other than spoon feeding those that simply look for something to complain about instead of trying on their own.

I'm not normally a sarcastic or condesending individual, but after reading what some of these individuals found fit to say I felt turn-about was fair play.

[bob oh]

Sorry I started such a firestorm guys! I only asked why Steve would post if he didn't want to share the info because I wanted to know why he would post if he didn't want to share the info!!! Seems like that's what I said. As for sharing your buddy's "secret", that's easy, don't post. I didn't ask for a precise location and don't want it, nor would I likely give you one, but I would give you a location or shut up!
Have a great day or night, and I really don't care where you are fishing.

rod bender bob

[Paulywog]

Keep your "secret night spot". I'll find my own fish like I do all the time.

Don't post next time unless you give general location and presentation.

Your first post and the next smart a!! one were junk, just junk.

[BobinStow]

Not a single thank you.....

shortdrift.....thats not entirely true. please read the post immediately following your post above.

I appreciate your post and thanked you for it.

[Hey Father Neptunes]

everybody on this board was once a noob, including yourselves. You learned where, when, and how from somebody else, nobody is born with this knowledge. You didn't just start fishing the shallow river mouths on the hope of catching fish, somebody told you the fish were allready there. It's probable that a walleye was inadvertantly caught by another fisher. Maybe a tightliner or a kid who bumped into a walleye. Word got to the nearest baitshop. You took the info and ran with it. Good show. In other words, you were enabled, just as your info enables others.
The info in the original post drew a predictable respone. Why post such non-info, info? As the old saying goes, nobody carrying a big fish goes home via the back alley. If you want to boast, it comes with a price.

[ezmarc]

You're not sorry Bob, I know you love this kinda crap, it's in a newspapermans blood to crave this kind of reaction. Insert (LOL or smilie) here

This post started out well with a post stating that the night bite was still going strong. That was good enough for me but then again when isn't there a night bite on Erie?

[Spindoctor]

Alright, Steve B.!!!
Congratulations on a good catch with some effort!
For you whining wimps out there, here's a little extra to chew on:

Planers outfish flatlines 2 to 1 at night, rattling baits outfish quiet baits 2 to 1 and electric trolling motors outfish gas trollers 2 to 1 at night!

I'm just out there casting from 20 to 30 feet of shoreline break. Stay on tight when you locate fish and go back to them.

Trolling is for guys that don't know how to cast!

Later!

[Trophy]

This "hole" post is as bad as my kids.......when they were 3, fighting over "Barbie clothes". For God's sake reread your posts, and ask yourselves would you have grounded your kids for acting like that??? The info you guys wanted is more than likely worthless as soon as the sun comes up that morning. The fish move. Find them, figure them out, and catch them. It's not rocket science. I post all my trip reports here. I give location, bait, speed, depth, color, etc. I really don't care who fishes a spot after I'm done with it. I even broadcast over the radio where I'm at and what I'm getting done. Some folks aren't like though, and wish to keep certain info to themselves. So be it. I assume 99 % of us who visit this board have "fishfinders" on board. I already know that a Reefrunner will catch fish at night in Vermillion, or off Davis Bessie. All I need to do is find fish. That's what makes the sport fun guys. Steve the only thing that made some people mad was you said you caught your fish from your buddies Lund. It upset me too because I'm a TROPHY man!:+ :cheers:

[Toolman]

I bet Bob will be just East of Vermillion tonight, about 9PM or so, trolling Reefrunners in 12 FOW. Not sure why...everyone knows Lake Erie walleyes quit biting at dark! ;-)

BTW-this post was totally tongue-in-cheek. :-)

Tim

[Bigfoot]

Trophy,

Re-read Shortdrifts info. I'll bet my last crankbait he's not running Reef Runners!!!!! I'd be curious to know which sticks he is in fact pulling tho.

Great job Shorty keep up the good work. I'm heading North to "GODS COUNTRY" for some "Silver Bullets" this weekend I hope,that is if I can get permission from Juls. I've been good and maybe she'll let me out of the house. Sorry babe the DEVIL made me say that.

[Steve B]

>Trophy,
>
> Re-read Shortdrifts info. I'll bet my last crankbait he's not
>running Reef Runners!!!!! I'd be curious to know which sticks
>he is in fact pulling tho.
>
>


They were indeed Reef Runners. Rispsticks, in clown and orange juice, as a matter of fact.

[Tim FRrick]

"HMMM"

If you know anything about walleye fishing you would know that they come in shallow water at night, especially in Erie. They do this all year long. Heck, I've snokled in August along the shoreline and seened them in the rocks. Water temp. is just a small factor in the walleye's life.

Steve B.,
First time reading this and I agree with you 100%. Exact location is not as important as is trolling technique/info. I use to fish on a buddies boat all the time and would only give info on technique and water depth and not so much as exact location. There's just too many people that see this site to give out those numbers. Example would be the night time trolling off cleveland this spring. It's nice to give it out if only a few are going to try it but when it becomes a parking lot at night it becomes very dangrous.

Lastly just because he's not register doesn't mean he's lieing. I don't register because I use my work access. I take all info on this board as general anyways not 100% accurate. There's too many bonehaeds too do that.

Good Luck,
Tim FRick

[Bigfoot]

See!!! I rest my case. He said how deep the water was and how far back running them. Reef Runners would be running way to deep. So the answer is Ripsticks. Or I'd bet Rattlin Rouges and Husky Jerks would do very well also.

Rick

[bob oh]

:-) I was never mad, Didn't really care where he was fishing because I wasn't going there but just kinda wondered why he would post how great he did and then say Oh, was on my buddy's boat and I can't say where LOL (Actually I'm calling Vermillion hotels so I can get a room for the weekend so I can nite troll with toolman :-)

rod bender bob

[Steve B]

Well, I stated in the original post that we were running shallow big Reef Runners.

Only after going to their website did I realize they were called 'RipSticks'.

We tried Husky Jerks for a bit, but only caught the throwbacks. ShortDrift decided to try something with a bit more wobble to it, and tied on a RipStick. That's when the fun began.

[shortdrift]

Ripsticks on flatlines were the ticket and the boards only took 3 of the fish compared to the flatlines taking 15 as well as all the larger (4 to 7 pound) fish. One board had a Husky Jerk (tried size 10,12 and 14)size 14 which took all the board fish and the other board a ripstick which scored zero.
I prefer casting to all other methods but didn't have any casting rods on board to try it. Casting a Wart or Tot may have been quite deadly.

[marcbodi]

Hi,
We are on our way to Wheatley tomorrow and if you any of you guys are going and give me any info tomorrow I promise that I will not post it.What I do is have my Garmin 5 in my tackle box and when Bills in the front running the boat I'm in the back marking the spots.If your real nice I may give a little info.

May I be fishing somewhere Tomorrow

[Seedtree]

This could be the "Thread of the Year", only we need someone to refer to another poster as a "cowardly son of a whore". LOL.

Great stuff. Keep it up.

Tight lines.

[Joe hotair]

was out the other night and it was unbelievable. fished from after dark to before it got light. same program as somebody else posted last year. Wow, if you haven't been fishing at night don't go, you might crowd my buddy but please envy me for being sooo lucky and good.

Loose lines to you, keep your head down and your feet dry.

Good luck to all.

Joe

[eriebound]

Take this for what its worth ,I'm not a regular poster but I'm a very regular follower, I'm a diehard troller and have night fished erie for over thirty years and tried all tactics ,my go tactic is 0 to 50 yards from any shoreline or shallow reef with nearby deep water,casting a jet black stick bait floating style keeping it near the surface stop and go retrieve and hesitate at the boat they love to follow and I like to use a good mag light or spot light and glance the water for bait fish , for you find the food the eyes are not far, be sure to know the area .water and weather conditions well and don't go alone for erie has less mercy in the night, take these tight lip tactics for what they are worth and find your own favorite area's, for I will be forever bound to mine,though the islands are where I would start

[Juls_OH]

Wow! I just read this whole thread for the first time...I can't believe grown men would act this way. LOL :banging: Good grief.

Steve B,
Don't let it get to you. Thanks for the report (plenty of info there IMO), and your show of integrity towards your friends.

As for you my dear husband...just TRY to go fishing without me and the dogs this weekend! I know you love your boat, but you don't really want to sleep out in it, do you? :popcorn:

Juls

[Hook N Book]

UN...BE...LIE...VA...BLE...!

Juls, you hit the nail on the head. :)

[Boatnut]

Ric,
i think she burnt ya bud :)

[wow]

Too frigging funny. I would not have given GPS locations either. I have in the past and HAVE lost good places to night fish to other. Darn flat is now way too crowded.

The original post told enough. Get out, fish and have fun.

Miss Adventure II

[Pond scum]

No one cares if he did not post GPS numbers. That is understandable. However, if you are going to post a fishing report at least include what body of water you were fishing in. This report could have been from somewhere 1000 miles away from Erie. Even that, however, is not what fired everyone up as much as the fact that the first post was just a setup for his second arrogant remark.

Shortdrift, thanks for clarifying the fishing report for those that did want more specifics. You have always been willing to share information in the past especially on OGF. However, please do not lose sight of the fact that it was not the lack of specifics that got most people going. It was a lack of any useful information as to even generally where the bite was, and the follow up comment that was made when someone asked "where?" was uncalled for.

[bob oh]

You hit it on the head Pond. I didn't want his GPS numbers I just simply asked (which you apparently aren't allowed to do) why you would post a fishing report and then not tell anyone where you were fishing -- like off Vermillion!!! Crips why all the crying, are questions that scarey. Like who gives a rat's rear?

rod bender bob

[Toolman]

At least he didn't answer the question "where did you catch them" by saying "in the mouth"! ;-) Sorry-I'm just having a little fun. Time to lighten up :-)

Tim

[Juls_OH]

Steve B has been around here for years. If you had simply done a "search" using the "author" catagory (advanced search), you would have found out that he fishes Lake Erie. Pretty simple investigative work there. I think it took me all of 8 seconds to find the info. on what body of water he fishes most. Here is the link if you don't believe me...
http://www.walleyecentral.com/dc/dcboard.php

PA Leeeezzzzzz stop now....you guys are killing me! LOL

Juls

[K Gonefishin]

This horse has been beaten so bad not sure if all people that posted on this topic can use all the GLUE!! LOL yeah this is probably the most active thread in the shortest amount of time that I ever remember seeing.

Juls I didn't forget about calling you just got tied up, I do want to have a 621 conversation. Talk to you soon.

Kevin

[ERIE REBEL]

Okay guys and girls enough is enough.Let Steve alone.Methods and Gps numbers are not needed. The only thing that we really need to no is that there is a great night bite on Erie as long as you are willing to do your homework and do some exploration and some experiminting. Team REBEL is going to give it a shot Sat. night in the western basin just for poops and giggles.GOOD LUCK ALL!!!

[COOLERKING79]

Steve B....Congrads on your wonderful "night trolling"
success! Wish we could all be as fortunate as you and
your "honey hole"! PS save a couple for the rest of us
who are not as fortunate as you! LOL! Fish are everywhere
see no reason to play "secret, secret"! just my opinion
but i see your post as CHICKEN-SHYT! put the thread to rest!

JACK....COOLERKING ON 79

[B Thomas]

Kevin,
when is the 621 being delivered??
This has been a great 15mins of entertainment reading this thread. I agree the In my buddy's Lund comment was a bit smart but there are way too many fish in the lake to be worked up over 1 "secret" spot. Its amazing how the easy catching of the 03's has made alot of people instant gurus on walleye fishing on Erie this year.