Boycott Canada!!

[fedup]

Tired of the border?? Me too, that is why I just cancelled my trip to canada and will not be going back EVER!! This is why: If they are going to enforce rules then enforce rules. The DUI thing is crazy!! Just had a friend go up there and got send back because of dui from 10 years ago. One of other friens who is a county deputy had his records faxed to the border from the county this occured in and stateing he was never convicted of a dui. Did not mater they screwed him anyway. Had to spend the night ininternational and buy a ticket and fly home. A month ago had another frien with a dui go to cananda and got across--no problem. If more americans would stop going to ontario and spend our money here--ontario would be broke in a year!!! If you can not get across because of a dui--fine, but enforce it for everybody. To #### with ontario and the border--I will spend my more valuable american money right here where it belongs--the USA baby!!!

[mrwalleysneighbor]

spelchek, I mean spell check! Sorry to hear about your friend, but it's like driving 99 miles an hour down the interstate, some days you may not get caught, but when you do...hey, you took the chance.

[Field trialer]

The reason your one friend got caught and the other didn't is they check the records of the owner of the vehicle that you are riding into Canada. They have a big camera that looks at the license plate of the vehicle that you are crossing the border and that plate number is run through computer records. I had to get out and give them my license plate number because my motorhome plate was blocked by the spare tire.

My suggestion is if you are going into Canada, take a vehicle that is registered to a person who has no criminal record.

[gord]

The border people are not there to interpret what should or should not be on your record.......if its on your record its up to you to clear it up before you hit the border. Its a random check, at best, so why the surprise that some get across and others don't? Somehow hoping that Ontario goes broke because your buddy with the dui can't cross the border seems a bit childish.

[Stringbean]

Maybe you ought to think about why you got the dui to begin with. No sympathy here.

[walley250]

Yeh it is a tough situaiton. I have a friend who enjoyed our yearly Canda trip but he got a dui two years ago. I feel bad, but hey, you knew the possible results. I think we need to respect their laws just as we would want from them visiting us.
On the inconsistancy issue: I agree. My dad went to Canada about 10 ago with somone who was convicted of theft (stealing CDs from cars) 20 years prior to their trip. Just a stupid kid who made a mistake, and now is a decent guy. They weren't sure if they would let him in, but finally decided for a $300 payment he could go across. This was no guarantee he could get over next year, this was only good for this one trip. Well, you know this costoms agent was eating steak for the next month. This was basically a bribe. There needs to be consistancy in the way people get over the border.

[BadgerRedd]

Not ready to boycott Canada yet, but, a couple of things that I questioned, 1) Why is beer so much more expensive in Canada?(The cheapest place was $35 a case) 2) The cost of leeches was about $45 a lb., twice the cost of leeches in the States at least. Also since you can't bring leeches across the border wouldn't it be nice if the local bait shops had some? We stopped at a number of bait shops in Fort Frances, Kenora, Vermillion Bay, and Ear Falls and unless you had called the bait shops and ordered them weeks in advance you were S.O.L. Is this normal? When we stopped in Ear Falls the people at the 4 Seasons bait store had a 2 page list of people who HAD reserved bait yet they couldn't "fill their order". I sensed that we're being gouged by almost everyone and unfortunately does lead to a feeling of not wanting to go back. That's too bad because the resort owners/staff were EXTREMELY FRIENDLY and COURTEOUS the entire stay. It's too bad your friend didn't call the customs office to try and "settle" his DUI before your vacation, but, posting your experience will hopefully prevent others from that fate.

[old fisherman]

I think your friends drink to much.

[Skyraptor]

No sympathy here either, you must of read these boards before and knew that this topic has come up many times. You and your "friend" knew the risks of trying to enter Canada with a DUI on his record. You should of been prepared for the worst and settled for the best if that occured. If you did your homework ahead of time you would of had your friend(you)should of applied for a permit to enter Canada. Do you think that Canada and Ontario will stop enforcing their rules because you decided to stop going to Ontario??? It's like the person who says that they will never shop at a certain store yet a few weeks later you see then in the store shopping (I worked retail for 12 years and saw and heard that many times)

So go ahead and not go to Canada, it just means better fishing and less hassle for me if all DUI's stayed home then they would not have to worry about that law.

[NWO Fishing Bum]

I don't agree that someone getting a DUI 10 years ago should be turned back, but to boycott Canada because of border problems . . . that is certainly the funniest thing I've heard today. First of all, the fishing tourism business in Canada is getting crunched big time right now, and will even moreso, if the mandatory passport for all land crossings Bill takes affect. Forget about your buddy's DUI, tens of thousands of Americans every year will choose not to come to Canada because they don't want to buy a passport (especially if they're travelling with their family). Research this year is already showing huge dips in cross-border tourism because of people just mistakenly thinking they need a passport right now, which they don't. That is millions of tourist dollars lost because of US measures, because of US border security problems, not Canadian. Just this past week, again the US announcements of more border inspections, even greater control measures, and surcharges being placed on commercial border crossings to pay for it (going on the back's of companies, making trade less economical, and curbing foreign investment). OH AND, did I forget to mention that the northern border is the better of your two borders.

Boycotting Canada because of Canadian border rules is simply laughable.

NWO Fishing Bum

[Canuckilladuck]

I have no sympathy for those that get turned around at the border,, I dont want drunks on my streets putting my families life in danger!


> Just had a friend go up there and got
>send back because of dui from 10 years ago. One of other
>friens who is a county deputy had his records faxed to the
>border from the county this occured in and stateing he was
>never convicted of a dui.

Did he have the DUI or not? some sheriff faxing a statement wont fly when customs can pull up anyones records on CPIC(international criminal records check)

>Did not mater they screwed him
>anyway. Had to spend the night ininternational and buy a
>ticket and fly home.

Customs has the right too refuse entry too anybody!!! seems like his buddies didnt care,, they just said see ya and on theyre way they went..
Let me guess they hit the duty free and had all bought a couple cases of beer. When he tried too pay duty on it,, they ran his name and surprise surprise youve had a DUI.. 10 years ago was the conviction but you arent rehabilitated... your declaring alcohol for personal consumption,, bye bye!

"They weren't sure if they would let him in, but finally decided for a $300 payment he could go across. This was no guarantee he could get over next year, this was only good for this one trip. Well, you know this costoms agent was eating steak for the next month. This was basically a bribe. There needs to be consistancy in the way people get over the border."

You mean he paid the $200 administration fee for temporarily allowing him a one time pass into the country. It wasnt a bribe dont make it seem like thats what happened!!! it was a legal procedure he had too pay for... no one ate steak for a month,, get your facts straight before you spew garbage like that!

[MBWalleye]

No Sympathy here either. This works both ways with Americans comming into Canada and Canadians entering USA. You just need to research it, and if that is too much trouble, then maybe you should just stay where it doesn't matter if you have a DUI on your records.

Only my two cents.

[DUIDUMB]

I have always felt that those who get a DUI should pay and pay dearly. To many graves of the innocent have been filled by fools who drink and drive. If I could decide the punishment going to Canada would be the least of these idiots trouble.

[Canuckilladuck]

>The reason your one friend got caught and the other didn't is
>they check the records of the owner of the vehicle that you
>are riding into Canada. They have a big camera that looks at
>the license plate of the vehicle that you are crossing the
>border and that plate number is run through computer records.
>I had to get out and give them my license plate number because
> my motorhome plate was blocked by the spare tire.
>
>My suggestion is if you are going into Canada, take a vehicle
>that is registered to a person who has no criminal record.

Ill bet they all hit the duty free and bought more than allowed in duty free. When they went in too pay duty they ran his name and noticed the conviction. Rules state they will be allowed back into Canada if they can prove rehabilitation.. If you are declaring alcohol at the border from duty free it is for your own personal consumption. There is no way you can say you are rehabilitated if you are importing alcohol!

[rpieske]

There were 16,694 alcohol-related fatalities in 2004 – 39 percent of the total traffic fatalities for the year in the USA. There's a good reason Canada won't let convicted persons with DUI's less than 10 years old into the country without proof of rehabilitation or pardon.

DUI is a felony in Canada. The USA doesn't allow convicted felons entry either in most cases. The Canadian government has a responsibility to protect their citizens and visitors to their country. I say THANK YOU CANADA.

If you do the dirty deed you suffer the consequences. Your complaint about selective enforcement is not true. When they discover it...they enforce it. I guess they could run a criminal check on every person entering their country, but then I can hear your outrage over that, too.

No one is to blame for his being turned away at the border but the person who got the DUI. But then...accepting personal responsibility for our actions is not the NEW American way. It's always someone else's fault. Your plans were upset. Your friend didn't get to come into Canada. Your mad at the Canadians. You should be mad at your friend for not checking into what he needed to do to get admission to Canada. There certainly is a wealth of info out there. He was inconsiderate of all the rest of you. Be mad at him, not those enforcing the laws of their country. I wish it was a felony offence here in the USA. And the relatives of those 16,694 people who died in 2004 probably do also.

[Sutsgold]

Fedup,
are you sure your friend is being completly honest with you about his dui. If a dui conviction's terms of sentencing have been completed over 10 years ago you are considered rehabilitated in the eyes of canadian law. This means you are allowed in no questions asked. If you have more than one criminal conviction regardless of how many years ago they have the right to refuse your entry into the country without proper paperwork and rehabilitation. I had a friend do this to me. He thought he could get through because his dui conviction was over 11 years ago. He found out the hard way when they also brought up his convictions from 18 and 22 years ago. We had no idea until he fessed up. He vacationed in international falls that year.

As for boycotting ontario simply because of the border I am afraid I will have to pass. However, with the price of gasoline going up lodges will soon find that their prices will need to increase dramatically. Especially since they set their 2006 prices before gas prices skyrocketed, which means they took a hit this year. I imagine increasing high prices will help decrease the number of tourists crossing.

To the person who asked about beer. Beer, cigarettes, and other items are expensive because the tax on them goes to pay for their federally funded health care system. The tax on the beer and cigarettes you buy is sort of a savings account for your cirrousis medication and lung surgery.

[fedup]

Holy jesus, what are we a bunch of choir boys on here. I am sure nobody on here has ever had a frickin beer and drove home. just because you did not get caught, makes it right. I guess we all live the perfect life on here. Good god you guys suck. Not mad that he got turned back ya bunch of dinks, mad because they just pick and choose who they screw with. I have met guys that have crossed with bags of weed before. If you have a dui and can not get in--fine but that means everyone that has dui. And for the canada guy who said he does want drunks on HIS streets---USA basically is your eceonomy so check yourself buddy! Do not let pride make you dumb also! I have never seen a canadian drunk on the streets????? Yeah right!!

[No No]

Nobody except you is trying to justify drinking and driving which leads to DUI. D&D is for stupid people and punks. If you dont believe that ask parents who have lost a child to D&D or go to a hospital and see someone who will never walk again because someone though they could drive after a night at the bar. There is enough sadness in this world without punks who drink and drive.

If you drink do it at home and keep your car parked.

[prov1900]

Just having returned from a government sponsored trip to the Southwest border of our country, we should praise the Canadians for their enforcement at the border. Take a trip to El Paso Del Norte sometime. You would cry yourself to sleep if you only knew what and how much we were letting into this country. I agree, the DUI thing is a little stiff, but to them, a felony is a felony. This country should take lessons. TRUST ME.

[prov1900]

Just having returned from a government sponsored trip to the Southwest border of our country, we should praise the Canadians for their enforcement at the border. Take a trip to El Paso Del Norte sometime. You would cry yourself to sleep if you only knew what and how much we were letting into this country. I agree, the DUI thing is a little stiff, but to them, a felony is a felony. This country should take lessons. TRUST ME.

[rpieske]

Fedup: (that describes what the rest of the world is with people who think like you)

You come on here with your wimpy crying and complaining when you are totally wrong. Then you blame everyone else. And you do it all with an anonymous sign-in.

If being responsible means I'm a choir boy...you're right. By the way I have sung in choirs for most of my life. If you think that means I'm weak or less a man, how about nine years as a Marine Corps Gunny in an infantry unit. You could do with some good old USMC lessons on personal responsibility. Yes, I like to drink. But I don't drive drunk. And you don't get a DUI for driving home on one beer. Sure...the rest of the world is wrong, but you're right.

You need to do some serious growing up.

[Boosterman]

Sometimes roles are reversed. A friend of mine lives in Niagara Falls he used to cross the border all the time. He had a criminal record from 1971. He got busted with one gram of hash. Anyways when he crossed he used to tell the border officer the truth and they would let him cross. Accept for the last time. When he told the truth to the border officer he wasn't given the option to turn around. He was thrown in jail for two weeks on the americans side and then was dropped off if Fort Erie. I agree americans don't want criminals ans neither do we.
Also you can stay right over there on your side. Means more fish for me.

[Boosterman]

Sometimes roles are reversed. A friend of mine lives in Niagara Falls he used to cross the border all the time. He had a criminal record from 1971. He got busted with one gram of hash. Anyways when he crossed he used to tell the border officer the truth and they would let him cross. Accept for the last time. When he told the truth to the border officer he wasn't given the option to turn around. He was thrown in jail for two weeks on the americans side and then was dropped off if Fort Erie. I agree americans don't want criminals ans neither do we.
Also you can stay right over there on your side. Means more fish for me.

[Hunter4]

Hi fedup,

Not a choir boy by any streach of the imagination here, but I do know a difference between stupidity and sensiablity. Coming from a family whose dedicated their lives to protecting the public I can't tell you how many stories of fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have been killed by people just like your friend. A stupid, irresponsible, self absorbed drunk driver. As far as I'm concerned he got off lucky. Life is to short and hearing you whine about him missing out on a fishing trip shows me at least that he is still displaying all the same qualities when he was caught for drunk driving. This is sad very sad.

Oh, by the way as someone who lost a love one at the hands, feet, car and stupidity of a person no different than your friend. A worthless piece of #### that did'nt have the brains to know when enough was enough and killed 3 people whose only mistake was trying to get home from work. So I applaud the Canadians and their stance on drunk driving. Maybe you and your friend should man up and admit you made mistakes. No when it comes to this issue I'm not a choir boy I'm the whole #### church.

[Canuckilladuck]

>Holy jesus, what are we a bunch of choir boys on here. I am
>sure nobody on here has ever had a frickin beer and drove
>home. just because you did not get caught, makes it right. I
>guess we all live the perfect life on here. Good god you guys
>suck. Not mad that he got turned back ya bunch of dinks, mad
>because they just pick and choose who they screw with. I have
>met guys that have crossed with bags of weed before. If you
>have a dui and can not get in--fine but that means everyone
>that has dui. And for the canada guy who said he does want
>drunks on HIS streets---USA basically is your eceonomy so
>check yourself buddy! Do not let pride make you dumb also! I
>have never seen a canadian drunk on the streets????? Yeah
>right!!

This whole message just proves how big a tool you actually are!

I know 2 people that died from drunk drivers,, they werent doing anything wrong and the idiot who hit them walked away injury free! He went too jail, but he gets too wake up tomorrow morning, they are stuck in a wooden box 6 feet below ground.

Ive seen several drunks driving down the road. Ive also called the police on ALL of them! I know I was responsible for a minimum of 5 drunk driving arrests, and im #### proud of it! and I will call on the 6th the 7th or however many I ever see. I dont care where they come from.

You can take your "your economy relies on us" and shove it where the sun doesnt shine! Just because we are major trading partners doesnt mean Canada should allow U.S. citizens too come here and have theyre own little "do anything you #### well please playground", it doesnt work like that.

[Skyraptor]

FedUp keeps responding that it was his "friend" but I bet it was Fedup who was turned around border and now he comes here as a anonymous and spews this garbage about how unfair it is.
Go cry somewhere else and tell your "friend" to learn from his experience.

[Skyraptor]

FedUp keeps responding that it was his "friend" but I bet it was Fedup who was turned around border and now he comes here as a anonymous and spews this garbage about how unfair it is.
Go cry somewhere else and tell your "friend" to learn from his experience.

[gord]

If your "friend's" attitude is similar to your own it is no wonder why they decided to "screw" with him at the border. Not only was he in the wrong but he was a jerk to boot.

[jigman 2003]

This thread seems a little like a "troll" to me.

Of course many of us have had "a beer and then driven home." A beer (that's one) will not get you a DUI. Ten beers will, depending on your weight, 3 might get you in trouble too.

Plenty of Americans are sick of people getting away with DUI's lightly. You can drive drunk, kill someone, and get 4 years in prison. Pull a trigger on a gun and you could get life. Not much difference to me between the two. You are in charge of a deadly weapon either way, if you use them recklessly you should pay dearly.

I would agree that most Canadians are glad you and your friend are staying home, sounds like you guys are the type of Americans who give the rest of us a bad reputation.

[hoosier]

fedup,
Let me tell you a TRUE story that is currenlty going on in my family.
My cousins son age 22 Indiana was hit by a drunk driver about a week ago and the driver drug him nearly 600'. Then the driver LEFT THE SCENE. Another person witnessed this and told police where he lived so the police picked him up over 2x the legal limit. My cousins son is still in critical condition in Indianapolis not knowing if he will survive. They drilled holes in his head last week to remove pressure on his brain not to mention broken bones,etc. Oh yeah, he has a family!

Oh yeah, the driver that did this has multiple DUI's and was driving on a suspended license.

Please explain to me why I should have sympathy for this person? A prayer for him & his family would be appreciated.

[Fed Up with Fed Up]

There are thousands of storys like Hoosiers....and they all could have been avoided if those who choose to drink and drive had a lick of common decency for fellow mankind.

Fed Up, you need to take your own personal inventory of what kind of a man you are and want to be. Please urge your friends to act responsible with their drinking and you please do the same. You may be saving your own childs life.

Thank God that DUI's cant cross into Canada. More jurisdictions should close their doors to these social misfits who because of their weakness endanger all of our most treasured gifts....LIFE, AND THE LIVES OF OUR LOVED ONES.

[fedup]

you say "thank god dui's are not allowed into canada" but they are--just depends on who you are. Glad i did not make a mistake ten years ago like alot of people and still get punished for it ten years later.

[fedup]

I think you guys are missing the point here. I know that maybe a shock with this group but here it goes. I am not saying a DUI is right their their einstein's!! As matter of fact they are down right stupid. But people do make mistakes. I think that the law should be the law for EVERYBODY!!!!! So if i rob a somebody and you rob somebody should I be let off and you go to jail for a year. HMMMM? I am just saying be fair to everybody--if they do not want a dui in their country--I agree--but it should be for everybody not just who they pick and choose ya know. That is what bothers me ya know. Has nothing to do with the fact of the dui, it has to do with the law. I figured Mr. marine on here would get fairness since he was in the service but I guess he does not get that. Thought that is what the marines were about--equality--but if have a dui guess you do not count. Semper fi baby. Yeah!

[dutchboy]

You will be sorely missed in Canada.
To the Canadian's I apoligize, we have them here also. :-)

[Wawajake]

Just want to thank all the Americans that responded with common sense and rational thought in regards to my sovereign Canada . We recognize that only one in a hundred Americans is like “Fedup” . Just like we apologize for the one in a hundred Canadians that is an A$$ hole. But then that Canadian is a bass fisherman too ! :)

jake

[Brian D]

What should of been realized in the first place was that one cannot cross either border with any criminal record as far as I know.
I know in Canada one can apply for a pardon which will allow you access across the border.
To think after 10 years it's all forgotten one would have to be a dreamer. A record that goes without a pardon if for life. No matter what the offence was.
Crossing either border is the same, and in the big big picture in today's world that's a good thing

[Experienced]

Too many Americans want the border crossing to be as smooth as driving from Wisconsin to Minnesota. Get over it. You are crossing an international border and you play by the rules of the country you are entering, plain and simple.

I was convicted of a DUI ten years ago, almost to the day. I applied and received rehabilitation about 5 years ago. I cross the border twice a year or more and always have my papers with me. I've never been asked to show them, but am ready and almost eager to see how they would look at you when you show them.

[grt1]

Border crossings are stressfull for everyone, you never know if the border guard is having a "bad"day or has had a fight with his/her spouse and wants to get revenge on someone, but, lets face it the laws are made to protect each others country and if you don't like the canadian laws, tough, I don't care for some US laws but when I decide to visit the USA, I know I will have to be cognizant of them and obey them.

By the way, I was delayed at the Fort Frances border for 20 minutes when taking a taxi across for a dinner meeting one year while the "ran" my identification through the US data bank, don't suppose the US customs guy got a tip from the cabbie on his return to canada!!!

[rpieske]

I figured Mr. marine on here would get
>fairness since he was in the service but I guess he does not
>get that. Thought that is what the marines were
>about--equality--but if have a dui guess you do not count.
>Semper fi baby. Yeah!

No, Fedup...the Marines aren't about equality. They are about personal responsibility and building character. They are about the Warrior mentality and protecting those who need protection. In the Marines today, if you have an alcohol problem you have ONE chance to get yourself straightened out. If you don't...you're gone! No one wants an unreliable person protecting his rear.

Who protects us from drunks on the road? Who speaks for those maimed and killed, loved ones left without a son, daughter, father, mother, etc. Do you, with your excuses and deliberate misstating of the facts? There is no selective enforcement of the Canadian immigration policy on admitting convicted felons. There IS a program which allows those convicted felons with a DUI access to Canada after proof of rehabilitation. The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I am not against those who have proven they are rehabilitated getting a chance. That is certainly the American way as well as the Canadian way. But to give a second chance without even investigating whether the person who committed a felony has reformed is pure stupidity. You seem to be saying that if they are not going to check every single person's criminal record when crossing the border, they should check no one's and just allow everyone to cross. What a crock. Your logic is as faulty as your misguided defense of your DUI friend.

[stumcfar]

Living 10 miles from the Canadian Border, I know of numerous people that pay each year to enter Canada, because of previous drinking offenses. Most people here are going up for day trips and they take the chance. If they get caught at the border, they pay to get in or turn around and drive home. It is the price you pay for doing something stupid and dangerous. I do think it is kind of funny though that if you pay at the border, then the Canadians feel better about your felony and you can enter the country. Felons with extra money, must be better than poorer felons!!

[Crappie Kid]

Don't drink and drive. Problem solved.

[Jack Danialss]

eye fur 1 dunt sea ani prbolm wif hafin a kouple drenks. i half bin sippin un a fue evr dae an ima inn purfec kuntrool uf alidew. wharsma kar an ware am i.

frenda fed up

[jigman 2003]

Marines about fairness? Wow, where would that come from? I am not denigrating the Marines, but fairness is not one of the traits that comes to mind when I think of them. In fact, fairness could most likely keep a Marine from doing his job at times I would think.

I agree that the law should be enforced fairly. However, this isn't a perfect world. Everyday I see idiots passing me at 10 mph over the limit. Most of them get away with it. I would guess for every person convicted of DUI there are another 10 who get away with it. That isn't "fair" either. It would be nice for governments to have a way to be completely fair, but for that to work I think we would lose many/most of our freedoms.

Your buddy should go through the proper channels in order to be able to get into Canada. Keep trying if he gets turned down. Yes, it is kind of crazy that it costs money to do this, but I imagine the money goes towards the job(s) of the people who are employed to research the felons' records. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for that?

[Schooner1]

Fedup.....
The law is the law.....and some of our US laws are a bit silly. In Canada, I do know that they take drinking and driving very seriously. The penalties are much more harsh and now a days your crazy to have a few and then take the wheel. Small town USA you can get away with it...but small town Canada...forget it. The OPP is all over you like a fat kid on a cup cake.
You can stay and fish...spend your money in the US but we all know the fishing isn't even close. I understand how frustrating crossing the border is but once your in Canada.....catching those massive northerns or tasty walleyes.....it's all worth it!

[RK_unlogged]

The Canadian rule of entry for past crimincal convictions is NOTHING NEW. It has been on the books for decades. You hear more about it now because the Canadian Customs officials now have access to US criminal records to which they previously did not have access. They haven't made their policies any more rigid - in fact, they've relaxed them recently specifically in regards to DUI/DWI convictions in order to make the process of rehabilitation easier. They're just better able identify those who are attempting to enter Canada illegally - and if you try to enter Canada with a record and without proper documentation of your rehabilitation, entering Canada illegally is exactly what you're doing.

Let's not forget this either: the reason the Canadian C&I folks are doing more thorough checks, and doing it using US databases where even decades-old arrest records appear is because they were **asked to do so by the US Department of Justice.** After 9/11 the US government asked the Canadians to increase their level of background checks on those requesting entry into Canada. This was in part due to the entry of several of the 9/11 hijackers from Canada (but remember - they got through US customs too...).

If you're going to visit Canada, you do so at their pleasure, by their rules, as their guest. It's that simple. If you try to do it illegally, you run the risk of being turned back. If you do get turned back, don't blame the Canadians - because it's a result of the policies brought about by our current administration's "War on Terror."

RK

[scott_from_the_shoreline]

Anybody want to talk about Walleye now?

[Duh]

GOOD POINT SCOTT

[Danny Toth]

This long weekend I'm fishing at Minaki my favorite spot and meet two different American fishing parties. One party all fish are in the legal slot size no over harvesting no big fish. Party two, full cooler, everything they caught they kept(29 inch walleye,22inch smallie etc) no respect for slot retrictions or maintaining quality of the fishery. Party two left the launch at 6:30am retured by 12:00 for lunch I counted fourteen beer cans if the boat oh ya two guys per boat. Party one they've been coming to Minaki for the last 7 years, party two it was thier first time. Why would you want these kind of idiots on the water in our country or yours?

[FedUpreplies]

Let me get some quotes from the boys here out!!
1. From the marine--scary he is in charge of anything! This is from post 1 of his!
“I wish it was a felony offence here in the USA. And the relatives of those 16,694 people who died in 2004 probably do also.”

From post 2 of his:
“There is no selective enforcement of the Canadian immigration policy on admitting convicted felons”

So I guess my question to you is this? Is it a felony or is it not? I mean you say you wish it was and they say convicted felons of dui's are not allowed in canada???????????????

And after saying this once I will say it again for our military man who do not comprehend things. so here it goes for the 2nd time---PRIVATE PYLE: I AM NOT DEFENDING A DUI!!!!!! I AM JUST SAYING IF YOU HAVE A DUI AND CAN NOT GET ACROSS THE BORDER FINE---BUT IS SHOULD BE LIKE THAT FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!!

One time in international falls, speaking to a group of men--one of their guys got turned back for a dui that he had 8 years ago. Instead of leaving they tried again in the morning---know what they got across with him. We saw them at the money exchange place. Seems odd!!

This goes to one of our canadian guys. here is your quote.

“The law is the law.....and some of our US laws are a bit silly”

Read above situation and let me know if it is really a law there or just something they enforce when they feel like it.

[mavs]

Yes, I will be boycotting Canada, but not for the DWI reason. I have been fishing in the Province for over 25 years and it no longer is worth the extra time and money to fish there. Lodging, bait, license, alcohol, and gas have made this a very expensive trip. And no longer is the fishing able to compensate for the higher cost. Years ago hundred fish days were everyday and the very few lakes produce the genuine thirty inch fish.

The scenery is still second to none, but technology has made even the most remote lakes known and company is now expected on almost every body of water. The only way to combat this is to flyin (which I have done five times), but the cost is going through the roof and trophy fish (30"+) are VERY RARE!

I feel bad for lodges and resorts, because in my experiences they have all been first class and genuinely nice people. But, their edge no longer exists. I have found many lakes in MN that produce 75-100 fish days and a few that give you an excellent shot at 30".

So, I will spend next summer in Minnesota exclusively and am now confident that I will do just as well as I have done on Lac Seul, Dogtooth, LOW, Minnitaki, Abram, Holinshead, Harmon, Goose, and Garden.

PS don't drink and drive!

[rpieske]

> 1. From the marine--scary he is in charge of anything! This
>is from post 1 of his!
> “I wish it was a felony offence here in the USA. And the
>relatives of those 16,694 people who died in 2004 probably do
>also.”
>
>From post 2 of his:
> “There is no selective enforcement of the Canadian
>immigration policy on admitting convicted felons”
>
>So I guess my question to you is this? Is it a felony or is
>it not? I mean you say you wish it was and they say convicted
>felons of dui's are not allowed in canada???????????????

Fedup:
I spent 9 years in the Marines, returned to start my own business which now has 500 people working in 10 states. I guess I learned something in the Marines about being in charge; i.e. give your best, expect the best from your people and stress personal responsibility. Just words to you, but a life long commitment to us.

If you could comprehend anything past the end of your nose you would have learned that the Canadian government views DUI as a felony, hence the policy on admitting felons. They don't care if it is a misdemeanor in the USA, only that it is a felony in their country. Does any law enforcement agency catch all the criminal that violate the law? Of course not. Does that mean they are selectively enforcing the law? Ridiculous. The same applies to the Canadian government. Just because they don't manage to stop all the DUI folks coming into the country doesn't add up to selective enforcement. I'm not dense...I get that you are only refering to your misguided belief that the Canadians selectively enforce entry for persons convicted of DUI.

As far as Pvt. Pyle being the poster boy for me...does that mean that Bluto in Animal House is the poster boy for you?

I don't know why I even bother to answer you. My grandmother always taught me never to fight with pigs...you just get covered in mud and the pigs love it.

[Jarhead Too]

You go Jarhead. Bet this Fed Up guy is not someone you would want beside you in a conflict. Not that he would have the nuts to there.


What would JN say to Fed Up? "Truth!!! You cant stand the truth"

[Mohleye]

Bob,

I was about to ask you the same question.......why ARE you bothering to reply to this knucklehead?

The bone he wants to pick seems to be why some dui's make it through and others don't. Several posters suggested it was because they were declaring and paying duty on alcohol, which he didn't respond to. If that was the case, and knowing a DUI is sticky at best when crossing the border, then trying to save a few bucks bringing in extra booze is not a real smart move.

At any rate, the days of the open borders between the US and Canada are obviously over, and as better technology comes available, they probably will screen everyone. And then Fed Up will be a happy man once again........and call off the Canada boycott.

[srock]

Do you think they will let Pete Coors in?

[Sgt. Fedup]

"I get that you are only refering to your misguided belief that the Canadians selectively enforce entry for persons convicted of DUI."

Another great quote from Pyle. You are dumb Private Pyle do expect me to believe a fine gunny sargeant like yourself can not put points together?

How is this a misguided belief? TELL ME Please???? Pretty Please. I have seen it happen along with other people on this board---So, mr. ten states and 500 employees--how is this a misguided belief? How, tell Me!!! They do selectively enforce this rule or law or whatever the heck they call it. Pick up your F'in cover Pyle!!!!

[rpieske]

Oink! Oink!

[EyeBanger]

Boycott? If Canada is taking these kind of steps to make the roads safer, I may just schedule TWO Canadian fishing trips next year.