Bin Laden Dead.

[history_buff]

Just read this on Foxnews.com.

Please dont make this political........just a pretty significant day in our worlds history if deemed true. Some specution on wether he is deadly ill, or actually dead at this point.

[clarke]

Fox is reporting he's dead.

[tbomn]

>Fox is reporting he's dead.
Not sure how you say that.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215301,00.html

[Keeder]

Tbomn:

Clarke was right....I've been watching this story unfold since about noon today. First reports were that he was dead...period. As the afternoon has progressed....rumors have begun to arise, and now the news agencies have seeming changed there tune.

Time will tell. If he is dead.....and has been buried, I would doubt we will ever find him.

[Behr]

Fox reported this?

Figures...

[Smokie]

Figures..... Meaning........

[So what if he is dead]

another will take his place. Btw, how would Fox, or any other western news agency, know whether or not he's dead?

[Behr]

Exactly.... How would any news agency know? Yet apparently Fox initially reports it as fact.

The person who originally posted this artical said he didn't want to bring politics into it. IMHO, it's 100% political.

-Behr

[tbomn]

Behr....read my post, and then read the link....sheeeesh!!!!!!!

[Behr]

Tbomn,

Sorry, but I couldn't get your link to work.... don't think I didn't try. I did shorten the URL and went to the site and to the Bin Laden artical, but I'm not sure that it was the one you were pointing at.

I've said my piece about it.... I don't intend to continue in the thread.

On to the Bears...

-Behr

[ReelDiel]

zThis was being reported on the bbc last night coming from saudi intellegince and through the french...i would think his homies would know if he were dead or not!!!!!!

[tbomn]

Here it is:

U.S., French Intelligence Officials Say Bin Laden Death Report Unconfirmed

Saturday, September 23, 2006

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PARIS — American and French officials cast serious doubts Saturday on a French newspaper's report that Usama bin Laden was believed to have died in Pakistan last month.

The French newspaper l'Est Republicain printed what it described as a confidential document from the French foreign intelligence service DGSE citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that bin Laden died of typhoid last month.

A U.S. official told FOX News that he had seen no evidence to suggest the Al Qaeda leader was dead. "Don't believe it," he said. "I would not give credence to that report."

Time magazine reported Saturday that bin Laden contracted a "serious water-borne disease" and may already be dead. The article cited an anonymous Saudi source who said Saudi officials have not received concrete evidence of bin Laden's death.

French President Jacques Chirac said the information is "in no way whatsoever confirmed."

Chirac said he was "a bit surprised" at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to investigate how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press.The DGSE sent the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said.

"This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed," Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. "I have no comment."

Officials from Afghanistan to Washington expressed doubts about the report.

A senior official in Afghanistan's Foreign Ministry said he is "very skeptical of the truthfulness" of the document, noting past false reports of the death of bin Laden. He was not authorized to address the issue and asked that his name not be used.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Tasnim Aslam, called the information "speculative," saying that Pakistan like other countries was "clueless about him."

In Washington, Blair Jones, a presidential spokesman, said Saturday that the White House could not confirm the accuracy of the report that bin Laden may have died.

CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano said he could not confirm the DGSE report.

A senior U.S. intelligence official told FOX News that rumors of bin Laden's ailing health occur frequently, and there is "no evidence, no reason to believe it's true."

The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet.

"We've seen nothing from any Al Qaeda messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Usama bin Laden," IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press.

Al Qaeda would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

"They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it," he said.

The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq earlier that month.

Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit.

Putin suggested that leaks can be manipulated. "When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially."

Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak.

"The information published this morning by the l'Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Usama bin Laden cannot be confirmed," a Defense Ministry statement said.

The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source.

"According to a usually reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Usama bin Laden is dead," the intelligence report said.

There have been periodic reports of bin Laden's illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate.

According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial.

"The chief of Al Qaeda was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on Aug. 23, 2006," the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed.

The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden's alleged death on Sept. 4.

In Pakistan, a senior official of that country's top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden's whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity.

U.S. Embassy officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan also said they could not confirm the French report.

Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden's fate remained a mystery.

"Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan," Bentegeat said. "No one is completely certain that he is even alive."



Fox is not reporting this as fact.......maybe some of the folks on here should enlighten their brain before opening their mouth.

[Terroreyes]

I believe it when I see pics of his dead body. You can't believe anything with this guy. Something that has always bothered me and I saw the clips all day that points to a sham about him running around in the mountains. This guy is in places our military can't even get to, but look at his clothes and teeth. Whiter than white. 5 years of living in mountains and his teeth look like he sees a dentist weekly. Garments are spotless and I can't get clothes that clean with a washer, detergent, and bleach. He's living it up in Pakistan or Syrian palaces, probably with the best medical care they can offer.


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[bignose]

Guess I dont get an email from Osama every day showing his wardrobe and teeth. Are you reffering to the last know photo of him taken last February ?? He no doubt cleans up for his "death to America" presentations.

[Thoughtful]

Amen, Joe. People just don't read carefully, or think critically.

[Terroreyes]

All of them. No e-mails from Osama either. Just something that doesn't add up and makes you say hmmmmmm??


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[bigfish1965]

The food they eat is unlikely to cause any bad teeth or staining. It is our food in our culture that produces the troubles we have.
I would highly doubt his death. There was an interview on one of the net web servers with a guy from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan that indicated Bin LAden was very deep in hiding but alive and readying an attack to coincide with Ramadan.
Tough to beleive any side in this issue.

[Waterwolff]

Believe all you see and half you hear

[DUDE 2]

I think behr says it all on why this country is going to have a hard time winning this war. He said in post #9 (on to the bears). That kind of attitude is why this war is going to drag on for a long time. Im not blaiming behr for that statement, cause that is exactly how we have been told to act by our government since 9/11. Just keep acting like life is normal, and dont let the islamo facist get to us. In my very humble opinion, we need to start acting like this is world war 3. Im not getting political here, both parties are at fault as to how we have handled this war. After what happen in the U.N. this week, we are all alone in this. I cant believe that we allow other terrorist and communist leaders to come to our country and bad mouth our country and President like they did, with no repercusions at all. The iranian pus who was involved in the hostage taking in the late 90's, should have been arrested and put on trial for what he did back in the 90's. But we just take all that bad mouthing and act like we don't care. Im sorry but we are in trouble, cause Im afraid that we have lost our will to win and survive as a nation. Why do we allow these dictators to do this in our country with really NO response at all. We as a nation want things to be the way they were before 9/11, (I do to), but things are happening that we dont really no about. We need to get on the offense and quit being on the defense in this war....

[chadk66]

Amen

[freedom]

< come to our country and bad mouth our country and President like they did>

It's called freedom!! Thats who we are and what we stand for.

[Fish_on]

Then we should have the freedom to put a bullet between his eyes. Freedom should go both ways.

[jarhead]

>Believe all you see and half you hear


Don't believe everything you see and only half of what you hear.

[DUDE 2]

The last time I read the Constitution, freedom is for legal citizens of The United States of America. That slim ball from iran needed to be taken into custody and put on trial for his particapation in the hostage taken in the late 90's. Its time for the U.S. to get out of the u.n., and tell it to go to some other country and let the dictators of the world go blow. The constitution of the U.S. is for the citizens of the U.S.. Just like the constitution of france is for the citizens of france.

[RANGER]

You should read the Constitution!

[karpbuster]

I heard that Darth Alla Bin Rude felt a tremor in the force, the dark side. So it may be true.

karpbuster :)

[jimmy4218]

you show many midichlorions- you are the one....

[Lundy]

Fox News report a lot of stories that just aint true!!!!!:shame:

[cnem]

And CNN don't.

[freedom]

So we don't stand for freedom?? I thought we were setting an example for the other people of this world for what freedom realy is all about? I guess not. Freedom is only for US.

Why are we in iraq again?

[Leechboy unlogged]

A detailed study of our constitution should be manditory for all high school students in the U.S.A. Please find a copy online and read one tonight just for the fun of it. It's the patriotic thing to do!! -lb

[piker34]

lets see... Pat Robertson can call for the murder of Venezualan president Chavez, Franklin Graham can call for the nuking of all Muslims and thats OK???
Seems to me with Jerry Falwell calling Hillary Clinton a devil today is just another example of Christian Facism at its finest. Wake up America, are you any better than the other religious zealots on the Muslim side??? Hey, remember, Barney the dinosaur is a threat to our children because purple is a gay color according to Falwell. Oh yea, and New Orleans was flooded because of moral corruption, the crappy levy works had nothing to do with that, right? Your not delusional?

[Behr]

I really didn't want to post back to this thread, but if you must know, I said 'on to the Bears', because I know that the moderators here would have pulled the plug on this thread if I would have continued with my thoughts regarding this matter. I did them and everyone else here a favor by 'moving on'.

I just wanted to set the matter straight, because your attempt to explain my comments was completely wrong.

-Behr

[EIB]

Hahaha thats funny CNN = Clinton News Network, sort of like Limbaughs EIB, "Experiment In Brainwashing" Network...

[RANGER]

n/m

[babamel2]

If its a political statement and you read it on WC, it has to be true.