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Bob Babcock
11-14-2001, 10:43 AM
I just got back from Presque Isle on monday and was a bit disapointed in the number of Ciscos we found on the lake. The water temps were around 42 and the full moon had occured the week before. I heard that John Gillespie caught a 52" fish on Trout the previous monday while fishing with Rob Manthei. I also heard that they were fishing shallow bouncing the rocks and the ciscos were spawning there. I don't know what the water temps were on Trout, but I would have to guess that they were 42 or even warmer since trout is a little bigger that Presque Isle. My guess is that the spawn occured on Presque Isle the week before as well. I assume the full moon played a larger role than the actual water temps. The only baitfish we encountered on our trip was an area just outside of where Ciscos may have spawned. The area has a creek that runs into the lake. We only saw three small clouds of bait in this area. The rest of the lake seemed devoid of bait. Obviously the lake is large enough that we could have missed something, but other fishermen we talked to didn't even see what we saw. I thought Presque Isle had a reputation for huge schools of Cisco. Where we searching in the wrong spots or has the lake gone sterile?

On a side note regarding fishing suckers on Cisco based lakes. We only had one follow the entire weekend, but had three pick-ups on suckers. None of the suckers got eaten though. All of them were in good enough shape to be reused the next day. We did manage to boat a small 32"er that didn't let go of the sucker until it was in our net. One other fish, about 44", didn't let go until she was boatside. After the third fish did this we changed from circle hooks to quick strikes and didn't get bit again. While casting we used mostly bulldawgs, countdown and original straight model depthraiders. All of the fish came from steep breaks that went from 20' to 32' of water. All of the fish were about 15' down suspended on the break in about 28' of water.

jlong
11-15-2001, 01:56 PM
Bob,
I don't have an answer for you on where the cisco went. I was out last Saturday too and didn't see a lot of baitfish on the electronics either. MRoberts and I did pop two nice fish casting crankbaits in 40 feet of water where we found the first good "balls" or "clouds" of cisco. Based on that, all I can say is I hope you worked the those schools you did find for quite awhile.

Water temps on my lake were also 42 degrees... but I would have guessed that they were still staging for the spawn that typcially occurs at 39 degrees. Not sure which is more important... photoperiods (amount of daylight and possible the full moon) or water temps. Probably a combination of both.

Better luck next time....

jlong

PaulL
11-15-2001, 04:08 PM
Jason,
Do you have any idea how long the ciscos will stage? I was up in the Hayward area last week end and we found "clouds" of ciscos on the breakline in 2 of the 3 lakes we fished.Sure seemed like they were staging,but the water temps were in the mid 40's.We did notice that they (ciscos) showed up at a certain time of day and were gone by the evening. Had us baffled and befudled. Talk to me! :-)

jlong
11-15-2001, 09:26 PM
Paul,
Cisco make several movements... both daily and with the seasons. I've found that when you see "clouds" of cisco... that usually means predators are working the school bunching them up tightly together. Cisco are a schooling fish and they find protection in masses. If they are balled up and in a reachable depth zone.... stick with them.

As for how long they will stage... I really can't say. I'm certainly no expert when it comes to these little buggers. My guess is that you could not find them because they were moving higher in the water column or possibly moving shallower for the spawning rituals.

At sunrise last Saturday, the water surface was literally boiling with baitfish... yet the graph was blank. The fish were high in the water and scattered. Later in the day we found bunches of them... and also muskies.

My limited experience with ciscos has taught me that fishing them is no different in June as it is in November. Trust your electronics and fish smart. Don't depend on seasonal movements such as staging for the spawn to boost your confidence to fish them. Staging or not... they are great structure and muskies relate to them.

Not many guys are tapping the cisco connection... so you are one step ahead in the game. Good Luck!

jlong

Esox Maniac
11-15-2001, 10:10 PM
Jason- I've read its a combo thing for Cisco spawning, i.e. water temps under 40 & full moon. If so Nov 30th should be a hot breakline- shallow bite. I hope the pack-ice isn't blocking the landing! ;-)

"It's your choice to Catch'em & Let'em Go!" :)

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Al Warner