View Full Version : New Trolling Baits
riverrat118
04-09-2002, 08:10 PM
After all the shows this year, What are all opinions on new BIG bait trolling years this year. My vote goes to the HI Fin double jointed badboy that's 13" long. Thew reason, It can be trolled on Great lakes in Nov at 1.5mph and still have lots of action.Slow is good in nov.Three pull points for different depts.What do you trollers think?
John Schardt
Wihmaster Big Baits for me. Big Wish at 18" and the new big jointed at 22".....Super heavy duty and heavy wire through constuction...I know that the same conversation always comes up about how much they cost...(I sold off a bunch of baits to buy mine)..But when I'm going trolling in November for the fish of my lifetime (or maybe everybody's lifetime) I want NOTHING but the very best thing ever made..For me at that time its Wishmasters!!!
Marc Thorpe
04-10-2002, 05:15 AM
Thanks Riveratt,now what am I going to do.
All kidding aside,the triple jointed action is pretty cool in cold water and the snake like pattern movement of the bait make negative fish want to react.Real good cold water bait,below 42 degrees.Thats what I have seen.
marc
Musky Jim
04-10-2002, 10:23 AM
I like the new Slammer 10 inch deep diver. It looked great in the pool in Chicago and can't wait to try it up on Crow this year.
Jim Grove
04-11-2002, 06:11 PM
Me too!
Wishmaster Big Baits get my vote for the number one trolling bait "ever made"! Muskie fishermen with 200+ baits should not complain
about how much money they spend on lures! Bottom line!
Jim Grove
Dougie
04-12-2002, 09:59 PM
Hi Jim,Are you a salesman for wishmasters?
riverrat118
04-13-2002, 06:33 PM
WishMaster Trollers,
Tell me more about this bait. What speeds can you use these baits and still maintain action.Can you maintain a good "wiggle" at 2-3mph(or slower) and still maintain the depths for the cold water bite in oct and nov? Could be you fish them fast in these months.My thoughts are that slow is good in the fall.
John Schardt
Marc Thorpe
04-14-2002, 04:28 AM
John,dont know much about the baits but they are well constructed and paint jobs.....like you have never seen before.
All baits a created equal in my percetion.Their are no perfections out there.This is a giant bait with good durability built in the construction without a doubt.Something new they have not seen.
Quite appealing bait!
marc
John, Wishmasters are baits like you have never seen before.The guy spends over 20 hours handmaking and fitting every component of the bait. The finishes are many, many coats of paint, followed by multiple coats of envirotex. They are flawles and the most heavy duty bait ever made. I cannot describe the many paint jobs he has. He is into glitter and flash type paint jobs now..check out his site but last I looked they were his basic paints jobs .He has gone far beyond what is on his web site. These baits troll down to nothing and I have had them up to 6 MPH and I sure they would take much faster speeds. They are very large but they pull much less than you would think. I bought one of his new jointed baits and can't wait to try it ...22" of pure musky catching magic. I am not a salesman or connected to the company at all. I think anyone who has one of these baits becomes a true believer and excited follower of them. They are expensive and will never be in the hands of many people. I sold a bunch of lesser baits to buy mine and I am always in the process saving my money to get even more.
Skyman
04-14-2002, 08:02 AM
Ukko has improved their baits & come out with a new U-60. Available only in sucker pattern for now. It's a 22" bait with a 10" tail swing!
Jim Grove
04-15-2002, 06:08 PM
No!
I "do not" work for Wishmaster Big Baits. The only person that does is Rolf. He is a one man show. And as far as the speeds... I troll them in the fall as slow as 1.3 to 1.5 mph. and 7 mph+ in the summer. I have taken a number of big "openwater" fish trolling 7.5 mph with as little 7 feet of line out (12 feet including my 5 foot leader). Any speed these things look great!
Jim Grove
riverrat118
04-15-2002, 06:42 PM
Hey Jim,
Sooner rather than later, I think I may pick up a couple.Thanks for your reply.Talk about a color choice. That would be my only problem. Decisions,desisions.
John Schardt
Cameron
04-16-2002, 01:41 AM
Your post is interesting Jim,I know as you do the short lining approach works well in the kawarthas.But Georgian bay brings to mind large deep diving baits,Which you are using all be it on very short line.I guess the question is: Are you fishing right at the top of the water colum over very deep water?If so is this just a summer pattern and do you let out more line on those massive deep divers in the fall?
Interesting stuff.
Good Fishing.
Jim Grove
04-16-2002, 06:18 PM
Hey Cameron
Yes, this "short line" trolling can be over 60ft plus. But is great in shallow water as well. I'm sure we were the first people to be crashing the weed edges of Lake Scugog with Wishmaster Big Baits. This also produces fish in the fall if the water and air temps are right. Just slow it down! But, for the most part I am crashing that deeper rock structures of Georgian Bay come fall. Not often over 30ft unless the baitfish tell me to go deeper. 35, 40ft plus is no problem with these baits! And I can keep on trolling after smashing a big pile of rocks for the 5th time. "Without having to check if the bait bust or the action has been thrown out of wack!"
Jim
$290???????
Are you serious?
If you are REALLY serious about going after 70lb fish than you better take a very serious look at every piece of tackle that you are using. I have had other baits destroyed by good fish (a 35Lb fish is only about half the size of the current world record). Since no one I know has caught a 70lb fish I can only guess at what one could do to a bait...If I ever had a chance to hook a fish anywhere near that big I would rather have "guessed" right rather than wrong on the bait that I have on my line......