PETA Strikes Our Kids!!

[DocEsox]

Hard to believe but these well-heeled wackos (but not stupid) are putting out there propaganda at every level. I sat down with my daughter this afternoon while she was watching a cartoon on the FoxFamily channel called Braceface. The main character takes a job in a meat packing plant (yeah right....where every 13 year old goes to work in the city) and, of course, everyone working with the animals is devishly mean and sadastic. And suddenly the little girl is a completely converted vegan spitting out the PETA party line verbatim from their website. I couldn't believe it....but maybe that is the problem. These people have the audacity to attack anywhere and everywhere with no compunction. The rest of the cartoon she is converting her friends and family to vegatarians also. Anyone who eats meat is then referred to as "cruel" without exception. It is hard to win the battle with our kids when the Hollywood media is putting out this kind of tripe to our children.

Do we complain vociferously....or just let it die away until we no longer can hunt or fish???

One Pissed Daddy,
BrianW

PS: Posted this at MF also.

[RoyC]

The best way, although probably the hardest, is to not let them watch cartoons. I have three kids and the same problem, they love to camp out in front of cartoons, even with two computers and several video game systems in the same room. And my kids range in age from 9 to 13. These dang cartoons are addictive to them, and I often walk by, shut the TV off and send them off to do something else. But as soon as I am not looking they are back in front of the tube. PETA is obviously aware of this addictive nature of TV cartoons and is taking advantage of it. This is just another one of many reasons that I am going to be more diligent in "discouraging" my kids from watching TV. Perhaps I will take them fishing instead!

[Tone]

I agree with Roy; don't let them watch that cartoon any more. I guarentee that your children will not be happy about it, but it will prevent them from being brain-washed.

[Jim McCullough]

Brian,

That stuff just about makes my head explode. Some people say, "Don't worry about them. They are wackos and no one pays attention to them." That is a scary attitude. Every tyrant from Hitler to the head of PETA, has figured out that you can't change the world through adults. The children are the way to go. Get them young and get them often. Unfortunately, two of the biggest influencers on children, Teachers and television, tow the company line with PETA. The best we can do is protest the places we see it, and educate as many children as we can. Starting with our own.

[50 inch Jack]

Mr. McCullough-

I teach......

Your a big wig on this board........

I'll never be back.........

Didn't think it could flow out of your mouth like so many others

50 inch Jack

[Phishin]

Hey 50" Jack,
Easy man, Jim is a good guy. But when I was in grade school, I can remember PETA stuff being around and my teachers passing out propaganda to me and my fellow students.

Teachers have big influences on our youth and some teachers (just like in any profession) have PETA like views and spread these view to our youth, despite the messages they recieve at home. Jim is right...the education system in this country leans heavily towards the liberal end of the scale...which means it is easy to convince teachers to promote PETA views.

I don't know why, but every teacher that I've talked to lately (including my brother Mike) are extremely defensive about their career and their influence on children.

Leave Jim alone, he's a good egg.
Steve Hulbert

[Jim McCullough]

Jack,

First off, I'm no big wig. I'm just a regular dork. If you teach, than you should know 90% of Teachers are incredibly liberal. I have a lot of friends who teach. My cousin, who is very conservative and my Muskie partner, is a teacher. My sister-in-law was just voted Principal of the year in St. Paul. I have been through a lot of years of public education up through St. Cloud State. I have definitely formed an opinion on the subject, and unlike you, will sign my name to it. This isn't just my opinion either. My cousin has met a lot of brick walls because he doesn't tow the party line at school. Listen to some talk radio or Fox News and get the other side of the story. Let me ask you this. Are you questioning that the majority of teachers are liberal and that their political leanings don't enter into the way they teach? I'm not saying every one of them, my cousin and some of my friends are exceptions to the rule, but I am talking about the majority. If you are saying that, than I have to believe one of 3 things. Either you're not a teacher, you are deluding yourself, or you are a member of PETA trying to cause trouble. How come you feel so strong about putting down what I said, but not strong enough to sign your name to it? I'm not a rube. My guess is we won't hear from you again. If we do, it will remain anonymous like all of the PETA people who stir up trouble. I have done battle with PETA on their boards, and on the hunting and fishing boards I frequent. I know that they monitor these and other outdoor boards. I have been here for a while and my reputation is already known, so I won't worry too much about you damaging it. I guess we will never know what your reputation is. You will forgive me if I don't cry a river over an anonymous person who doesn't feel strongly enough about his opinion to sign his name to it, leaving here in a huff. Now there's a run on sentence for ya'.

[Koby]

There was a cartoon movie in the theaters a couple years ago about a robot from outerspace that comes to earth and befriends a little boy. I forget the title. Something like "Gentle Giant" or thereabout. Anyway, in one scene the robot asks the boy about humans killing animals for food. The boy's response was to the effect that killing animals is violent and senseless. Unbelievable!!! Even harder to stomach was the fact that the little boy's favorite toy was a BB gun!

[WallyHunter15 (IL)]

Hey, From a kids point of veiw/ myselve who is 15, What does PETA? stand for? lol. Im serious!

[Jim McCullough]

People Eating Tasty Animals...oh wait a minute... that describes me...It's people for the ethical treatment of animals.

[Jim McCullough]

By the way, there real name should be PWHP. That would stand for People Who Hate People. They are people haters to the core. Tell me who is for the "unethical treatment of animals"?
I haven't seen you around these parts before Wallyhunter. Welcome aboard. What lakes do you fish in Illinois?

[Tom B]

The problem with teachers today, is that too many of them take the easy way out. It is far easier to use preprinted materials about a subject that is provided by PETA (since this is the current example), then it is to provide other materials. I have several friends that are teachers and they have all received materials from PETA with classroom suggestions and teaching plans for nutrition. These are professionally packaged and, from a teachers point of view, an easy way to teach a subject.

OF course, sporting groups can do the very same thing. In St Cloud, the Bassmasters provide anglers and equipment so that during an "activity day" students can sign up for fishing and actually fish. Pretty cool.

Tom B

[RoyC]

The interesting part of having the schools promote materials and ideas from PETA and other controversial sources is that I now have to teach my kids to question what they learn at school. At first I thought that was a bad thing to do in that it undermines the school's authority. But when I think about it, I don't want my kids taking everything as fact just because it was stated by some authority figure. Thinking for oneself and having healthy skepticism is good in my opinion. However, I do wish the schools would stick to the 3R's and discipline and let my wife and I handle the cultural things.

I first developed this attitude about the schools when my oldest was a kindergartener and told me that all alcohol consumption was bad. I asked him where he heard that, and he replied that his teacher told the class that. I told him that the teacher was wrong, and he replied that teachers are never wrong, they know everything. As a counter-example, I told him that I used to be a teacher and that I am wrong sometimes. He replied that "maybe that's why you are not a teacher anymore"! Funny and sad at the same time.

Roy

[WallyHunter15 (IL)]

Hey Jim... Drop me a email 2nite sometime... jwalters@motion.net... I mostly stick to Musky, Walleye, Bass, and Crappie fish'n! Hope to hear from you soon!

[dcmusky]

I told every body in my house that my daughter could't watch the biggest anti movie of all time [Bambie] so my mom got her the book, but now she's 21 mo. old and points her finger at the deer and shoots. Got to get to your kids before they do. Besides PETA doesn't like hunters and fishermen becouse it takes the sport out of killing game with your car. DC