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Need an opinion on these. Was going to use them trolling this year. Do they affect the action of the lure at all ?? Any information will be helpful.
Denied
01-16-2002, 11:24 AM
I feel the Norman clip effects the bait less than any other type of snap I have found. I especially like them on very light plugs and spoons. As close to directly tying on to the bait as I can find.
dean
SUPERTROLLER
01-16-2002, 01:28 PM
JK, I tried these clips last year and did not like them. I used a very small size and thought they were hard to work with. I did not feel they affected the lure action though, so if you are for sure going to try them, I suggest getting them big. I don't have fat fingers. I just found them hard to manipulate.
Hogslammer
01-16-2002, 06:56 PM
Supertroller, I agree with you. I bought a pack about 5 years ago and found it hard to attach them to the crankbait. Maybe I just need stronger fingers, but in my case, I wouldn't call them speed clips. I personally like the cross-snap clips much much better.
Jim Carroll
01-16-2002, 07:18 PM
A Tip. A couple of guy I know that use Norman's remove the split rings from their cranks. Its a lot easier to attach the Norman's when you have something solid to work with and these guys can change baits in a hurry. I couldn't get used to them and I'm still crosslock'n.
I LOVE 'em. There is a learning curve in how to manipulate the clip opened and closed. I've been using them for a number of years and I can have them on or off in less than a second. When someone comes into my boat that has never used them it's fun to see the frustration when they try to use them for the first time :-). I use the smaller clips. None of my crankbaits have split rings.
Best Regards,
FJH
Thank you to all that replied. I think that I will give them a try this year.
B Robinson
01-18-2002, 01:16 AM
I've used these snaps for over 6 years now, and I have nothing but good to say about them. They're great on walleye rigs I think- especially on 6 foot snells. I don't think they really affect the action of the rig much at all, and they're very easy to change back and forth. Sometimes what I will do is attach them to a crane swivel and use them for casting and trolling cranks as well, they help in reducing line twist. It's tricky getting them attached to the cranes, but what you do is get the crane in the snap, then work it to the bottom of the snap (end that gets tied to the line) and then tie your line to the crane. I use these snaps EVERY time I go out fishing. Good luck.....
Brian
Bob G2
01-18-2002, 05:46 AM
What has been said about them, good and bad, is true. They are hard to manipulate, a real bear to attach if you have a split ring. But, they do not affect the action of a plug adversely, almost as if you tied a loop knot to your plug, and another thing I would add is due to the design, are very durable on large fighting fish. I like the ease of cross-locks mind you, but I have lost some large fish with them opening up. Got to the point that 1) I had to use a crosslock that I felt was too large 2)The only crosslocks I would trust were Berkeley's
or (I think it is) Norman's. Due to the inherent design of the speedclips, I can use a smaller one for large fish.
Dutchman
01-18-2002, 06:53 AM
Intersting FJH, I have always removed the split rings from all my crankbaits also. My buddies think I'm nuts for doing this, but I feel they are easier to tune and have better action without the splitrings. I use the Normans when fishing "green" water, lots of alge. I think the Speedclips run cleaner in these conditions as there are no areas to pick up the slime and the crank shakes enough to keep the whole thing free off the slime build up. In clear water I do use crosslocks though. I really haven't noticed any changes in action between the two though. Nor have I noted any difference in the depth curve between the two. I think they're both easy to hook up with....
" Fishing is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope "
eyegetit
01-18-2002, 08:45 AM
Ditto on the last 3 posts. I tried them last year because they looked more compact & streamlined than the cross lock snaps. I just wouldn't call them "speed" clips.
SUPERTROLLER
01-18-2002, 10:19 AM
Well, now I have a question on these things too. How many sizes do they come in? Maybe if I could go up just a bit bigger I would like them more. I didn't dislike their use,,,,, only the size.
Schmitty
01-18-2002, 10:27 AM
I have been using them for years.
It does help to take the split ring off the lures, because the speed clip acts as a split ring.
Go to there web site for more details.
http://www.normanlures.com/nlstore/
Schmitty
SUPERTROLLER, I believe that they make (2) sizes. I've always used the smaller size. I've never had one open up, even while fighting larger fish (Erie). I think one of the major reasons that I find them very easy to manipulate and attach to the crankbait is because I do remove the split rings from all my cranks. I feel that the Norman Speed Clip acts as a "split ring". If you are leaving the rings on the cranks they are a BEAR to manipulate.
Best Regards,
FJH
B Robinson
01-18-2002, 02:04 PM
Actually, I didn't know they came in different sizes to be honest with you. I live here in Nebraska, less than 5 miles away from one of the Cabela's stores, so that's where I get mine. I think they've always had one size out there and that's it. I agree though with these guys that say sometimes they are hard to manipulate with split rings on rapalas and such. Personally, I have a system down that I devised -there's really no way I could describe it- so that I can use them quickly for Raps, Thundersticks, the works. I must have a larger size because I find them easy to use and worth their price. I'm going out to Cabela's here in a little while to get a prop for my Merc, I'll see what size they are.
Brian
SUPERTROLLER
01-18-2002, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the reply. I used them about 90% of the time on Hot-n-tots and Jigging spoons. Since these didn't have a split ring it was a non-issue. What I found to be the pain was that they would flip to the side when I squeezed them to open them. When I did use them on Thunderstick type baits, I just held the split ring tight to the eye of the bait. I'm going to look at the bigger size and decide whether to buy another pack. If they are quite a bit bigger I'll try them again, otherwise just stay with what I've got now. (That's not always a bad thing either. If it works why look for a better mousetrap all the time.) Thanks guys.