WWA Detroit River Sunday

[Jim W]

Did they have the WWA tourny on Sunday and if so what were the weights?

[Jim W]

Did they have the WWA tourny on Sunday and if so what were the weights?

[Nope]

It was cancelled because no one showed up.

[Nope]

It was cancelled because no one showed up.

[weather]

i heard it was due to weather?

[weather]

i heard it was due to weather?

[Nope]

All I know is that I was told only one team showed up to fish so they cancelled it.

[Nope]

All I know is that I was told only one team showed up to fish so they cancelled it.

[thanks]

Thanks for the correction. Seems like alot of circuits outside of the MWT have a tough time in MI.

[thanks]

Thanks for the correction. Seems like alot of circuits outside of the MWT have a tough time in MI.

[Bo582]

Come on down to Elizabeth Park on Sunday the 25th of April. The weigh-in for the GNWC will be there @ 3:00. You might be surprised as to how many teams will be in this one.

[Bo582]

Come on down to Elizabeth Park on Sunday the 25th of April. The weigh-in for the GNWC will be there @ 3:00. You might be surprised as to how many teams will be in this one.

[WATER BUG]

Or the RCL League weigh-in on Sat. the 24th at Elizabeth Park.

The Bug

[WATER BUG]

Or the RCL League weigh-in on Sat. the 24th at Elizabeth Park.

The Bug

[crankbait]

I'm sure they will have some boats, anytime you schedule around bigger tournaments you do get more entrys. I've fished a variety of tournaments from the smaller weekend to the larger professional ones. One thing that matters most to me is attitude and the way the tournament is ran. I dont care to hear about people boasting their tournament is better than others or counting numbers of teams that are entered into any event. Those are the ones I will avoid in the future, too concieted for my blood.That gets to be a little ridiculous. Everyone's out their to have fun and make money, so why all the badgering? People fish what they want anyways. As far as advertising on WC some do go overboard.This is a great site to come to, so lets hope some people don't turn it into a battlefield. If you have to bash other tournaments to get better turnouts for your own then that itself speaks for what kind of orginazation it really is and who runs it. Hope everyone has a great year fishing, cause I'm going to!

[Fishing Insider]

There is a battle going on. Like one other post said, there is going to be a battle for market share. There are many more anglers coming into tournament fishing every year, and they have many many options. Then there are the long-time tourney teams who are always looking for the best option.

You are going to have to come to grips with the fact that there is a fight going on for people like you. You have a choice to make, or most likely the majority of anglers will make it for you. Two circuits are going at it head to head in what may become a fist-fight, although hopefully a sporstmanlike one. The WWA and the GNWC may both survive but only one of them will really grow and dominate.

IT IS all about numbers. Maybe you don't care about them, but most anglers want to have a chance to fish a professionally run circut with a great payout and all the extras that go with it, and it takes NUMBERS to do that. Walleye anglers that are looking for weekend ciruits have never had it better... the circuits are fighting over them! That is good for everyone!

I think it's fascinating that some of the battle is being fought right here where we can watch it unfold, and I think it's good for business for Walleye Central. Let the games begin!!!!!!

[JIGMEISTER]

I think the original question was for the weights of the tournament. How do you get to let the games begin,and who's wanting to make a competition out of this, and go head to head in battle? Hmm... The only one who will make a battlefield will be yourself because I highly doubt Walleye Central will tolerate your child like behavior. Go back to your corner and come back when you grow up.

[Bo582]

Thanks Jigmeister, My post was not a slam on the WWA or Jeff Russell. Jeff is a personal friend and I would be fishing in the WWA if it weren't for my conflicts with the GNWC. I merely stated that there will be a weigh-in at Elizabeth Park with quite a few boats. And, oh by the way, we will have local TV at our event. Come on out and see us, Cheers, Bo

[JIGMEISTER]

Bo my post was not intended for you at all,sorry about the confusion. It was aimed at the post by fishing insider. Its pretty senseless to say what was said and wonder about their actual intentions. I dont know why some people just cant mind their own buisness and let others tend to theirs, instead of stirring the pot all the time.I've seen your posts quite a few times and enjoy reading them as well as others made here. I hate trouble makers though, and that was pretty much what I was responding to.Hope your year goes good for you.

[Bo582]

Hey Jigmeister, I was referring to the post by CRANKBAIT. I appreciated the fact that you came to bat for me and the GNWC. My post was not meant to reference the WWA. As I stated, they're close freinds. Take care, Bo

[JIGMEISTER]

>Hey Jigmeister, I was referring to the post by CRANKBAIT. I
>appreciated the fact that you came to bat for me and the GNWC.
>My post was not meant to reference the WWA. As I stated,
>they're close freinds. Take care, Bo
I basically was trying to get a point out to someone I feel is trying to cause problems. I cant understand why they would go under a question for the WWA and then start the nonsense. IMHO I feel whoever fishing insider is he's trying to promote his choice of tournament? Who knows,and in no way was I trying to go to bat for GNWC.Dont get me wrong I dont have anything against them, or you but somebody hmmm... is obviously looking to start a commotion with the post.Whatever its worth its great advertisement.Have a great year!

[Eyez]

>I feel whoever fishing insider is he's trying to promote his
>choice of tournament?



I would say that is a safe assumption to make.

I don't see how or why this has to be a battle or a war like mr. fishing insider says. I've fished the WWA since it started in SD and to be honest, I don't want to be involved in a war or a battle. I just want to go out and have fun, not get into battles with friends who choose to fish a different circuit. If I wanted chaos and hate I'd fish the PWT ;)


Eyez

[Fish_on]

I think it is also safe to say that Jigmeister is also promting his choice of tournament very hard. And of course it's no secret that I am a promoter myself. I think a lot of WWA loyalists feel threatened by the GNWC and that's why they react so strongly like Jigmeister does. It really doesn't need to be that way.

Here's how I feel about it. I work very hard to have a good relationship with other tournament directors and some are real easy to work with, some don't feel the need to put the heads together for the good of both circuits. But I will do my best to work with any of them. I am definitely NOT interested in a "fist fight" with the WWA. I just want to run my circuit the way I feel it should be run, and promote it in every way I can. I have house payments to make every month like all of you, so it keeps me on my toes. I have sponsors that have made huge committments to me and are expecting big returns. I am out there beating the bushes, carrying the GNWC flag from the time I get up till the time I go to bed every day. That puts a few people off. Some people have caught my enthusiasm along with me, and they can be a little brash at times too. I apologize if that offends you. But like I said, I have hungry mouths to feed.

Just about every day someone talks to me about the relationship between the WWA and the GNWC. It is inevitable that people compare them. It is inevitable that people take sides, since it is true that we are going after the same customer base. For those of you who are loyal to the WWA, let me make point that I hopefully think will make you feel a little better about the GNWC. You have seen some improvements in the WWA over the last couple years. A new website, some good press releases going out, a greater effort to meet the needs of the anglers. My point is that the competition is good for EVERYONE! It keeps us all on our toes. And those within the fishing industry have a lot to gain by seeing the level of professionalism rise and the heat that is generated keeps the people talking, which creates more interest in tournament fishing. No wonder the walleye industry is watching these entry level tournaments with such interest.

Let me leave you with one thing to think about. I am very careful not to disenfranchise any WWA teams. After all, If some day the WWA is not an option for them, I sure don't want them having negative feelings about the GNWC. That's the bottom line for me. We're going to go about our business and do the best we can to build this one step at a time. I hope everyone else involved sees it the same way.

[JIGMEISTER]

I dont feel threatened by GNWC and you sure dont see me butting in on any questions directed to that tournament and changing the topic to WWA do you? Now thats what I call promoting.Look back on past treads you will see that yourself.I do feel everyone should mind their own buisness tho because this is getting old.

[Eyez]

I have to agree with jigmeister here, bernie. I've fished the WWA since it came to south dakota in 2001, through some ups and downs, but I still have a lot of fun doing it. I also fished one GNWC tournament last year. I'll probably fish at least one this year. It was as imperfect as any other tournament I've fished. If I wanted to find a reason to complain, I could, but I won't because I did have fun. Isn't that what this is all about? This shouldn't be a war.

I don't feel threatened at all. I don't worry about it. Some people are all worked up over this or that, and I just don't see a reason to be. It takes the fun out of it. Don't you think?

Eyez