View Full Version : RCL Lake Erie Day 2 Cancelled
Dave Landahl
04-29-2004, 08:01 AM
Day 2 cancelled due to wind.
Dave Landahl
Walleye Central
I wish they would extend the tournament another day rather than sending all those guys home after one day.
T-Mac
04-29-2004, 08:54 AM
I know the rules are the rules, but I can't help but feel sorry for some of those guys who drove 1500 miles, or more, to get to the tournament and only get one day.
That's the breaks, but I still feel bad for them.
perchjerker
04-29-2004, 09:01 AM
I was under the impression they had a "blow day" built into the schedule. Apparently not.
ebijack
04-30-2004, 04:23 PM
after the conditions of day one, i was glad that the decision to cancel day two was chosen. i sure would have been willing to fish day two if the conditions were not as they were. at 9am (last decision time delay)had we gone out, most would only have 3 hrs at best to fish. (time to get everyone launched/blasted off..running conditions etc) and safety, broken equipment etc was not worth going out. some of us thought the call to have everyone fish day three was going to be the call. sonny and mark could not win with either choice they made. alot of anglers had reservations/plans only thru thursday. alot didn't have a problem staying longer. day three thru advertising etc had to be done at walmart. there is not enough room to get 170 boats to the weigh-in trailer at walmarts and not affect all the other retailers etc in that complex. (that was a another decision that had to be made). it took me to long to find where my fish moved day one but i did find them. 2lber early morning, then the 7.5 and a 9.3lber which were the fish i and others have been on most of the week. do i feel that i could have made it with another day? absolutley! but mine and everyone elses saftey is much more important. no one will ever win in a tough decision...some like it, others hate it.
ebijack
04-30-2004, 04:23 PM
after the conditions of day one, i was glad that the decision to cancel day two was chosen. i sure would have been willing to fish day two if the conditions were not as they were. at 9am (last decision time delay)had we gone out, most would only have 3 hrs at best to fish. (time to get everyone launched/blasted off..running conditions etc) and safety, broken equipment etc was not worth going out. some of us thought the call to have everyone fish day three was going to be the call. sonny and mark could not win with either choice they made. alot of anglers had reservations/plans only thru thursday. alot didn't have a problem staying longer. day three thru advertising etc had to be done at walmart. there is not enough room to get 170 boats to the weigh-in trailer at walmarts and not affect all the other retailers etc in that complex. (that was a another decision that had to be made). it took me to long to find where my fish moved day one but i did find them. 2lber early morning, then the 7.5 and a 9.3lber which were the fish i and others have been on most of the week. do i feel that i could have made it with another day? absolutley! but mine and everyone elses saftey is much more important. no one will ever win in a tough decision...some like it, others hate it.
Fish_on
04-30-2004, 06:14 PM
They were 8.6, 7.8 and 3.1 pounds. All you did was net them. ;)
Fish_on
04-30-2004, 06:14 PM
They were 8.6, 7.8 and 3.1 pounds. All you did was net them. ;)
walleye world
04-30-2004, 07:48 PM
I think the whole field should get a fair shake at trying to redeam themselves on day two. Even if day two is actually day three. Two full days with a full field and then make cuts. Lets face it, there was a ton of tallent that was sent home because lady luck wasn't on their side. I think we all know that the best fisherman didn't make it to the top 20 or even the top 10. You can disagree with me on that point, but I look at the stats, and stats don't lie. Well, good luck to the lucky ones. Oh by the way, how do you make it to the top 20 and only catch one fish or worse, zero on day three. That says it all.
walleye world
04-30-2004, 07:48 PM
I think the whole field should get a fair shake at trying to redeam themselves on day two. Even if day two is actually day three. Two full days with a full field and then make cuts. Lets face it, there was a ton of tallent that was sent home because lady luck wasn't on their side. I think we all know that the best fisherman didn't make it to the top 20 or even the top 10. You can disagree with me on that point, but I look at the stats, and stats don't lie. Well, good luck to the lucky ones. Oh by the way, how do you make it to the top 20 and only catch one fish or worse, zero on day three. That says it all.
Muskeez- no login
05-01-2004, 05:53 AM
Check your facts, no one made it to the top 20 with only 1 or 0 fish on day 3. As for your comment on the stats don't lie, no, they sure don't and the top 20 weights got to fish on day 3. And now the top 10 weights get to fish on day 4. It's called adapting to changing conditions, and "making hay when the sun shines". No one got in on a "provisional" like NASCAR. Check the names in the top 10, they aren't all local dudes that have never placed well in these type of events before. Example, Bill Leonard and Scott Allar are two excellent trolling talents and both have placed well in past tournaments. Also, do the names Carl Grunwaldt, Mark Keenan, Gerrick McComsey, and Mark Brumbaugh not ring a bell? If not you obviously don't follow these tournaments much, and by making such comments discredited yourself by saying that the best fishermen didn't make the cut. So in closing quit whining and go back to the sand box.
-Clayton
Muskeez- no login
05-01-2004, 05:53 AM
Check your facts, no one made it to the top 20 with only 1 or 0 fish on day 3. As for your comment on the stats don't lie, no, they sure don't and the top 20 weights got to fish on day 3. And now the top 10 weights get to fish on day 4. It's called adapting to changing conditions, and "making hay when the sun shines". No one got in on a "provisional" like NASCAR. Check the names in the top 10, they aren't all local dudes that have never placed well in these type of events before. Example, Bill Leonard and Scott Allar are two excellent trolling talents and both have placed well in past tournaments. Also, do the names Carl Grunwaldt, Mark Keenan, Gerrick McComsey, and Mark Brumbaugh not ring a bell? If not you obviously don't follow these tournaments much, and by making such comments discredited yourself by saying that the best fishermen didn't make the cut. So in closing quit whining and go back to the sand box.
-Clayton
Fish_on
05-01-2004, 06:05 AM
I agree with you, that's why we have three and four day tournaments in the first place. It rewards consistency. From my perspective, I spent several days there and only got to fish one day. I figured I needed 35 pounds on day two to make the cut. Now looking at the weights, I most likely would have only needed about 32. My partner on the day it was cancelled was going to be Carl Grunwaldt. Look what he brought in: 33 pounds. Kinda makes me sick.
It's a hard pill to swallow but that's fishing. Bottom line is that there is a waiting list of amatuers to get in, so I don't expect them to make any changes.
Fishin Magician
05-01-2004, 06:32 AM
Not totally related but remember last year when the last day of the tourney on Erie was called off and Skarlis won? Who says he might not have zeroed on the 4 th. day? Stuff happens. Nobody is good everyday...and thats why luck allways comes into play.Most people have other lives and to start shuffling things around because someone didn't make it....or someone else did isn't the answer.These guys know the rules and have to live by them.Sure it would be a bummer,but that is why you have to fish like you live.... today could be your last day so it's best to live it, and fish it that way.
Was that a slam? I thought your slam on the telephone pole was much harder.
Fishin Magician
05-01-2004, 07:27 AM
If your refering to my post, no it wasn't a slam.Skarlis has proved himself over and over again.What I am saying is that everyone has their good days and bad. Martin didn't catch any the first day just as Juls didn't. Are they both great walleye fisherpeople? Heck yes.There can be two people fishing side by side.Lures,speed,depth and everything else is similar, but if ones presentation just happens to get bit by a fish thats in the mood to eat, that doesn't make them better....that makes them luckier.Anyone that thinks that luck doesn't play into it has MUCH too high an opinion of themselves.I think the RCL learned from last years near tragic situation on Erie that life is more important than a fish.
Fish_on
05-01-2004, 08:47 AM
No it was tongue in cheek of course. Tom and I had a good day, he was great to fish with and proved he could handle the waves with that Crestliner as well as anyone. As far as that pole goes, I'm taking a chainsaw with me next time I go to port clinton! That sucked.
wiggler
05-01-2004, 06:17 PM
Let's hear the pole story. Sounds like it could be a dandy. As for the rest of the comments, I agree that luck has a lot to do with fishing. I have seen it many times. So does skill. I also agree that safety should be first. Reading all the post I sit hear wondering about my personal opinions. Hmmm. I guess the easiest way to not stir up the hornet nest would be to say that I prefer the format of the PWT. Everyone has three days to prove themsevles at the weigh in. Everyone gets to fish every day and a bad day can be evened out with a really good day. Bad weather, everyone is in the same boat, with the same amount of chance to win if they are on a good program, and good fish. As for the guys that made it, lady luck was with them. I recognize the top names and some I have never heard of in the top 20. Good job guys. All I have to say is Lake Erie sure has been brutal lately. All that wind can really screw things up. Numbers of fish way down, so were the weights. Some guys I know caught some of their biggest fish ever during pre-fish. Looks like most of those hung tight under the rocks for cover. As for Dan Dan the beer man, nice job, nice finish. (Grampa)if you remember.
Fish_on
05-02-2004, 05:47 AM
Not much of a story really, between the time I parked there and the time I left, someone put a telephone pole behind my truck. ;)
Hookemdanno
05-02-2004, 10:52 AM
Thanks Grampa. Really appreciate it! Congratulations on your Detroit River finish. Hope to see you guys soon. Probably at Saginaw.
Dave Kraft
05-02-2004, 05:09 PM
Had a like thing happen to me one time when I was working. Parked my truck. Did a little work. Came back, put the truck in reverse, and darned if a tree didn't grow behind my truck while I was gone. Didn't have my chainsaw.
Listen folks. Day 2 was cancelled because of windy weather. Tournament Directors have to make decisions. They made a decision. Doesn't mean all of us liked it or didn't like it, but they made the decision. Could we have went fishing on day 2? Sure we could have, but damage would have happened. Do I as one of the Pros that got to drive home wish we could have fished? Certainly. But, I'm also not going to critize anyone for the decision that was made.
We all signed up, Pros and Ams, knowing that the rules stated that any of the RCL tournaments could end up being one day events. The same is true of the PWT events. PWT has had many 2 day events on the Great Lakes, and has had a 1 day event at Mobridge, SD. Those of us who got to go home early, should have fished a little better on day 1.