View Full Version : A little late, why no PWT or FLW in MN?
KHedquist
07-03-2005, 06:03 AM
Just wondering why MN got past over for the PWT or FLW tour, have we truly become the state wear nothing is allowed? I enjoyed watching the weigh in. Maybe next year, at least the mighty Miss. at Pool4
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ChadM
07-05-2005, 08:40 AM
FLW would require a WalMart within a short distance for the final days weighin. This limits the lakes to only a few.
bigtimer
07-05-2005, 10:09 AM
Red Wing has a Wal Mart
slots
07-05-2005, 12:49 PM
There are several reasons...One is that they wanted to mix things up a little, and stop having tournaments on the same lakes again and again...The other reason is that the new slot limits on some lakes really limit the number of lakes that we can visit.
The PWT will return for one Minnesota tournament in 2006...
Toast(Unlogged)
07-05-2005, 12:59 PM
And Rumor has it that the FLW will have a tournament in Red Wing next year.....
bravo
07-05-2005, 01:00 PM
Bravo to the PWT. They did a great job if finding new lakes was there goal for 2005. This schedule has sucked if they were trying to find good fishing lakes.
Fishing Insider
07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
PWT championship will likely be in Minnesota in 2006.
Vikings Fan
07-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Well said...
where? Is there a good lake in Minn without a slot?
I don't see why a slot is such a big deal. I can understand if there's no fish in the slot or the slot is so restrictive that weighable fish can't be caught, but there are plenty of slot lakes that host successful tournaments. The PWT fished Lake Francis Case in SD for years and it's a slot lake.
Dusty
crampy
07-06-2005, 03:28 PM
I don't want this to come off as a slam, but I am kinda dissapointed in a few of the tournament sites on the FLW and PWT tours.
On one hand, I totally understand how we should all be interested in promoting walleye fishing in different areas of the country. On the other hand, I feel for the guys that drive thousands of miles just to blank at BShoals or Cumberlund.
I would much rather follow the results from a tournament on Leech, LOTW, Red Lake (Next year), Cass, or even Mille Lacs.
I would not willingly travel to Minn to fish a tour unless it was on Pool 4 or the river... The slots just suck for a tournament! It allows to much luck to enter into the picture.That also goes for South Dakota....a lot of shorts and one lucky fish and you win...The lowrance circuit has about gone broke trying to figure that one out...and that one rod deal...well Minnesota needs to get current but I really don't think they will until they loose a little more.There is excellent fishing in the south if the tournament is held at the right time of the year.....and March or Sept(PWT) is not the right time.I love to fish up north but the regulations just suck for a tournament......to much luck...
Shep_Unloggable
07-07-2005, 12:15 PM
Has the PWT ever really done Green Bay? I know they've been to LBDN, but not sure on Green Bay. That is such an awesome fishery. The FLW this year showed just how good it can be. With a little luck, it could have taken over 130 lbs to win that!
I don't like slot tourneys. But that's me. And I think a lot of the touring Pro's don't like slot tourney's either. I thought the Cass Lake tourney was a good one last year, with respectable weights. But it was one of the smaller lakes the PWT has been on.
MN DNR
07-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Next year for all inland waters they will have a 1 fish over 20" rule, statewide. Doesn't sound like a place for a made for show tournament to me.
Fishing Insider
07-08-2005, 03:36 PM
There is no slot on the lake they are most likely going to. And one fish over 20" is no big deal. It is one over 24" statewide now. Find four (or five depending on tournament limit) 19 inchers and go get a kicker fish of any size.
In team tournaments or pro-ams, you can have two kicker fish. Some darn good weights could come in.
Walleye tournaments
07-12-2005, 09:11 AM
I don't know where this "slot's turn tournaments into luck tournaments" thing comes from. They put an anglers skills to the test more than anything else. How much time do spend working your slot spot before going after your "two" pigs. Since there are two of you in the boat, and each of you is allowed one. A properly executed game plan on a slot lake can all but ensure an angler a check. You get 3 19 3/4 in fish and two mid to upper twenties, that's the perfect tournament. And I wouldn't call a guy that comes in with that limit "lucky" either.
Vikings Fan
07-12-2005, 09:56 AM
I would take tournament fishing with one rod per person, a slot limit and catching fish all day in Minnesota any time to fishing some of the fisheries that allow two rods, no slot limit that leave half the field skunked each day.
Rippin_Eyes
07-12-2005, 02:16 PM
Slot tourneys are a double edged sword. My partner and I have fished several on Mille Lacs this year and if you pay attention to whos at the top it is typicaly the same teams, the guys who catch that big fish are the same names.
I'm not a big fan of one days because every once in a while the blind squirrel finds a nut but hey applaud them, they got it you didn't.
Two or Three days are the way to go. You just look at the guys who are consistant because the guy who gets lucky and catches the big one problably won't catch one on day 2 or 3.
lions fan
07-14-2005, 02:47 PM
A walleye tournament on a slot lake or slot state makes as much sense a NASCAR race that limits speeds to 35 mph. If your lake or state can not support a 3 day catch and release tournament then your lake or state doesn't deserve a PRO tournament, period!
lions fan
07-14-2005, 02:47 PM
A walleye tournament on a slot lake or slot state makes as much sense a NASCAR race that limits speeds to 35 mph. If your lake or state can not support a 3 day catch and release tournament then your lake or state doesn't deserve a PRO tournament, period!
dutchboy
07-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Amen!
We don't need them or want them. Do we? LOL
dutchboy
07-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Amen!
We don't need them or want them. Do we? LOL
Fishing Insider
07-14-2005, 04:27 PM
Some states are more "progressive" than others, or they try to micromanage their fisheries. Minnesota is notorious for this. There are literally hundreds of special regulations on various lakes. Slots are a big part of it, and I do not think they will go away anytime soon. Are they here to stay? I doubt it, because their effectiveness over the long term is not going to be what they are hpoing for. That's my opinion. Plus, the ridiculous maze of regulations is becoming a deterrent for people to get started fishing. And I saw a recent poll where people stated they quit fishing because the regulations were too complicated. That is going to come back to haunt us.
Still, slot limits are here in many states, and they are something that we must deal with. Is it a truer test of skill to win on a slot lake? You could make a strong case for that opinion. After all, anyone can luck onto big fish or two, but to get the best weight of a certain size fish over 2-3 days means that you have really figured it out.
Fishing Insider
07-14-2005, 04:27 PM
Some states are more "progressive" than others, or they try to micromanage their fisheries. Minnesota is notorious for this. There are literally hundreds of special regulations on various lakes. Slots are a big part of it, and I do not think they will go away anytime soon. Are they here to stay? I doubt it, because their effectiveness over the long term is not going to be what they are hpoing for. That's my opinion. Plus, the ridiculous maze of regulations is becoming a deterrent for people to get started fishing. And I saw a recent poll where people stated they quit fishing because the regulations were too complicated. That is going to come back to haunt us.
Still, slot limits are here in many states, and they are something that we must deal with. Is it a truer test of skill to win on a slot lake? You could make a strong case for that opinion. After all, anyone can luck onto big fish or two, but to get the best weight of a certain size fish over 2-3 days means that you have really figured it out.
Personally, I don't care much what the rules are in a given tournament, everyone plays by the same rules. Different sets of rules bring out different skills and varying degrees of luck, but as long as it's a level playing field, I don't worry too much about it. I've had to put back a bigger fish because we already had our two over the slot, and it hurts, but it's a choice you make based on your prefishing experiences and knowledge of the water. In the end it's just another gamble, something all tournament fishermen do every tournament day anyway.
Complicated regulations are a different matter. My mother is camping in SD this week, she's from ND, and she's having so much confusion with the regs on different lakes, that she's been calling me to find out what fish she can and can't keep.
Dusty
Personally, I don't care much what the rules are in a given tournament, everyone plays by the same rules. Different sets of rules bring out different skills and varying degrees of luck, but as long as it's a level playing field, I don't worry too much about it. I've had to put back a bigger fish because we already had our two over the slot, and it hurts, but it's a choice you make based on your prefishing experiences and knowledge of the water. In the end it's just another gamble, something all tournament fishermen do every tournament day anyway.
Complicated regulations are a different matter. My mother is camping in SD this week, she's from ND, and she's having so much confusion with the regs on different lakes, that she's been calling me to find out what fish she can and can't keep.
Dusty
Vikings Fan
07-14-2005, 11:00 PM
Lions Fan,
Interesting analogy comparing a walleye slot limit tournament to a NASCAR race. As long as you did, can you say, RESTRICTOR PLATE? It would seem like there are limits put on more things than just walleye tournaments.
Good luck with the Lions, they deserve a good year. If memory serves me right the LAST time the Lions WON with any regularity, they were going up against the Christians.
Vikings Fan
07-14-2005, 11:00 PM
Lions Fan,
Interesting analogy comparing a walleye slot limit tournament to a NASCAR race. As long as you did, can you say, RESTRICTOR PLATE? It would seem like there are limits put on more things than just walleye tournaments.
Good luck with the Lions, they deserve a good year. If memory serves me right the LAST time the Lions WON with any regularity, they were going up against the Christians.
Bears Fan
07-15-2005, 07:39 AM
Now that is funny!!! :-) :-)
Bears Fan
07-15-2005, 07:39 AM
Now that is funny!!! :-) :-)
The irony of that coming from someone named vikings fan is almost more than I can bear without spitting mt. dew all over my monitor. :D
Dusty
The irony of that coming from someone named vikings fan is almost more than I can bear without spitting mt. dew all over my monitor. :D
Dusty
fishin magician Fred
07-16-2005, 08:18 AM
Although this doesn't follow the original topic point with all the mentions of luck I felt like I had to comment. There is ALLWAYS a certain amount of luck that comes with fishing. It's part of the whole picture.
Your on a good school of eyes that are running larger than average. These fish are from 3-5 lbs. Unless you are actually sight fishing and pulling your presentation away fron the 3's in hopes of catching the 5's it's luck in most situations that you get those 5's. Sure the larger bait/larger fish rule plays out sometimes but it's as much luck as anything.
And as far as one day tournies, if the blind squirel sometimes finds the nut so be it. Anyone that thinks it's strictly skill is in my opinion only fooling themselves and needs to take a humble pill.
Sorry for getting off the subject but I felt I had to comment.
Vikings Fan
07-17-2005, 05:52 PM
Check your stats., that Mountain Dew can be strong stuff.