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l.eaton
07-18-2006, 06:57 AM
with 3 flights and 50 boats in each flight, this leaves about 45 seconds for each person to weigh thier fish. this to me isnt enough time. i think that the times between flights should be longer,this would give anglers more time to fish and spend less time waiting to weigh,especially when the water is warmer. please add your thoughts....
Juls_OH
07-18-2006, 12:51 PM
Personally, I think 45 seconds is plenty of time on stage. Just how long would you like the weigh ins to last Larry? If I were a spectator I wouldn't want to sit there for more than three hours. If you increase the time on stage, you increase the length of the weigh ins.
You also need to figure in the decreased time that a Pro/Co is on stage that only weigh in one or two little fish. Those teams get their weight taken, but there really isn't much to ask them since they didn't get the job done. People who catch a limit or at least some bigger fish will get that little extra time on stage...as it should be.
Since you brought this up, what would your suggestion be for the "perfect" weigh in process? How much time between flights would you suggest? In my opinion, I think 1/2 hour is plenty.
Juls
bktrllr
07-18-2006, 11:28 PM
I agree with Larry. Why not have guys and gals out fishing instead of sitting in the harbor waiting to weigh? If you are not an early boat in the first flight you are waiting to weigh your fish. Waiting in the river at Green Bay cost a few fish. I do not think extending the flights to 45 minutes apart would increase the total weigh in time, it would allow us to fish instead of wait arround.
J. Gordon
I agree with the fishing time, but aren't the permits they take for a tournament have a time frame. I thought they have alloted time to run them, just heard that. Not sure,
Vikings Fan
07-19-2006, 08:43 AM
I agree with Larry. The issue of fish mortality being the main reason. Our first responsibilty shoud be to preserving and maintaining the resource.
The PWT does 40 anglers in 45 minutes and even with that number there are delays at times. Stacking up the boats in harbors, marinas, parking lots and river mouths for extended times waiting to weigh in does not lessen the problems with fish mortality. That was evident at the recent Green Bay FLW Walleye Tour. Watching my fish slowly die while waiting almost an hour to get called to weigh in was costly and avoidable.
45 minutes should be the minimum between flight times with 50 boats. This is one area the FLW needs to take a look at updating their system on.
Juls_OH
07-19-2006, 12:08 PM
45 minutes would not extend the weigh in process that much more (45 minutes), so I would have to agree that 45 minutes between flights would be a better way to go.
Juls
missing the point
07-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Extending the the flight times by 15 minutes would not lengthen the weigh-in by 45 minutes. It would at MOST 30, but it probably won't lengthen it at all. The point is, intead of making boats 51-100 sit around and wait for boats 1-50 to get weighed in, let them fish a little longer. I bet if you added 15 minutes to their fishing time, when the second flight showed up to weigh-in, they would STILL be waiting behind 1st flight boats who are still waiting. Just not as long.
Juls_OH
07-20-2006, 11:50 PM
Thanks for making that point. I understand what you're saying now. That makes a lot of sense.
Juls
G Gray
07-21-2006, 01:31 AM
I have not fished any of the FLW, and I know they are well run, but, Don't they hold you back till 3:00, even if you were in at 10:00, Having fish, for another 5 hrs in a livewell, just adds to mortality rate.
Not trying to start something, just was wondering why, and if the hold you, do they bump your fish as soon as you come in?
Gary Gray
Juls_OH
07-21-2006, 09:45 PM
Hi Gary,
Hope all is well! Sorry it took so long to answer you. Just got back from delivering my boat...in other words..."road trip"! LOL
Yes, during no cull events they hold you back until the check in boat gets on the water at 2:45. They do not bump the fish until you are in the weigh in line, and it's your turn to go up on stage next.
I can't speak for them as to why they do it this way, but I'm sure they have their reasons.
The only solution I can see, other than the FLW changing the rules is, to keep the warm water tournaments on lakes/rivers that are not trophy sized fish waters. As you know, smaller fish are a lot easier to keep alive in a livewell all day, even during the hot months, than the big piggies are. There are plenty of locations that would fit that bill in my opinion.
Keep the big fish waters for the cooler months.
Juls
Beavus
07-22-2006, 11:47 AM
Your stuck in a catch 22. Big water in the spring brings blow days and rough water.
Stacker1
07-22-2006, 12:57 PM
These are the words from a press observer that was there. The flw hands out a sheet daily and this is what was reported by the flw as unreleasable and point deductions were given.
I know only 2 died on Saturday out of 46.
70 died out of 663 on Thursday, that's what? Under 10%
87 out of 629 day 1...13%?
We know there were probably more after the fact, but these numbers are pretty good. NOPE.... with the heat, they are great!! If they went just a bit farther in handing out ice to those in line and keeping the holding tanks the same temp, it could even be reduced.
I will tell ya one thing. It did not matter if the pro's killed everyone of the fish they brought in, because they killed everyone that is left. Let me explain. By telling the world where the fish are at and showing them, there are packs of boats out there right now taking limits daily for the frying pan. That has never happened out on this school of fish. I hope they use there heads.
eye lunker
08-01-2006, 05:13 PM
Den you have the facts totally right !Its funny cause we both know that there was very few boats out there on our spot prior to the 06 tour.