jigging

[dan]

hi,

what size jig ( in oz ) would you reccomend for using with soft plastics, in 45-50 feet deep water ?


thanks,

dan

[AKA Walleye Hitman]

Not trying to brag.I am a good jig fisherman but there are several things that come into play when you ask what size jig to use.
What type of soft plastic bait are you using also how long is the bait and are you using a no super line no strech or mono,when you let us know then we can give you a little more input on the subject will be happy to give my personal knoledge of 20 years plus of jig fishing.
Tight Line AKA Walleye Hitman

[dan]

thanks a lot

i use fireline and mister twister plastics, 2-4 inches long
i fish in romania for a fish which is a relative of your walleye, I think is called zander and can be meet around europe

so it has the same feeding habits, and we use mostly soft plastics for the bottom, and spoons or cranckbaits when it feeds on the surface...

most of the people use live bait, of course

[Walleye Express]

Dan.
Another variable you might want to consider/mention is, is their current in that 40 to 45 of water your fishing?

[dan]

thanks
yes, I care about the speed of the current, which is about 3 feet per second.

i am actually using a jig about 1/2 oz with mister twister shads 2-4 inches long but what would you use ?

anyway, what lure would you use for jigging for walleyes 2-6 pounds, 45 feet water deep, not clear but not muddy, autumn ( they are not extremely active )

thanks !

[Walleye Express]

Dan.
In my own opinion. The more bulked-up you have your jig, the more drag and less feel you'll have with it when virtical jigging. And I know that there are locations, water types, and other local favorite techniques that will call for a 1/2 jig and a 4 inch shad bait to catch anything. And I know that the rate/speed of (FALL)on a jig, can often be the trigger that that particular walleye is looking for in certain conditions or in that particular waters system. My rule of thumb is "The colder the water" "The slower you should work your jig". This is not always writen in stone, but true often enough. So, Bulking up with anything that would make your jig work/fall slower may be the ticket.

Two of my own favorite jig setups are the "Live bait Jig with a Squirmin Squirt" on it. The live bait jig is saucer shaped and has little water resistance. It also has a short shanked, Razor sharp, but fairly wide hook gap between the tip and shank. This configuration puts the hook right in the roof of the walleyes mouth when set. You can usually go with a size smaller/lighter because of this fact. And let face it, the lighter the jig, the better the feel. Great for those ice cold, open water river walleyes.

Or the Bullet type jig, that a guy named "Hutch" who is on the members list on WC makes me. I usually put a Baileys Magnet Grub on the bullet type. The Bailys are every bit the equal to Fuzzys in my book, and half the price.

[dan]

can you please give me some links where i can see this different types of jigs ?
i don't understand your " technical " explanation, as my english vocabulary is general....


i am pefectly aware that the harder the jig, the faster will sink when you play it, and the fish won't be that attracted to the lure 'cose it goes down like a rock....
so I am unconfortable with the ideea of a 1/2 oz jig, as I usually use 1/7 oz jiggs when fishing ponds....
so, please help me, if you have any ideeas about methods for a good evolution for a hard jig...

thanks a lot

[Walleye Express]

Dan.
I think you meant "The heavier the jig, the faster it sinks" right?/I hope. And the Grubs I use in conjunction with my jigs are all in the Bass Pro Master Catalog. http://www.basspro.com As far as the jigs, I pour my own Live Bait jigs from my Lee Hot Lead melter. I get the Melter, jig hooks, paint and the molds out of http://www.do-itmolds.com My other jigs are bought from my buddy "Hutch" E-mail Jigman@mhtc.net Hope this helped you.

[dan]

yes, that's what I meant
thank you very much for your advices and for the links you gave me

[Jigginman]

Dan I would have to recommend 6-30 proline and a 3/8 oz maribou jig .The maribou will give more action with less movement.The 6 # diam. 30 # test proline will guarentee that you will feel her when she sucks it down .Time then to jerk some lips.

[dan]

thanks a lot
dou you know a link where i can find a picture with a maribou jig ?

[ipro46]

Your 1/2 ounce jig should work just fine. When is use a twister tail I add a minnow. When I use plastic shads I use no bait. A white jig with a white shad body will usually catch fish anytime. Red or silver jigs work good with chartruese plastics. Let the jig hit bottom hard even in cold water but lift as soon as it hits. Allot of bites come when the jig hits bottom and you may not feel those.
Good fishing
Andy #46

[walleye4]

Send me your mailing address to walleye4@webtv.net and I will send you some maribou jigs! I only have about 1000 or so laying around that I have made in the last year! I would be happy to send you some!!!!


Wallagator Chaser

[dan]

thanks a lot, you are very kind
are you sure you want to send me those jigs ? I'm from Romania :))

[dan]

that's exactly the way we fish here for the " european " walleye
( bottom fishing ):
shads or grubs, the list heaviest jigs you can fish with, no stretch lines, fast rods

but i have never seen anybody using maribou jigs or similar stuff
I've read that the vibration of maribou is less obvious than the vibration of ths plastic lures, therefore you have better chances to get a bite from a less active walleye.....

also, from my experience, curly tail grubs are better for summer time and active fish, shads for semi-active fish, spring or autumn