01-02-2003, 05:58 PM
Usually I make my own. What is the best line and line weight to use? What is the difference between monofilament and fluorocarbon line. I've recently been using 8lb. Fireline and it has worked pretty good. I'm thinking of trying Cabela's Fluorocarbon leader material. Any body used this line? If so what weight? It would seem to be stiffer than Fireline and I don't think I'd like that. Thanks. Your help is appreciated.
01-02-2003, 07:43 PM
Old Fisherman,your difference between mono & fluorocarbon is that the fluorocarbon is invisable under water.I've always tied my own spinners with 10# mono but fluorocarbon should work great also.I guess I don't know about using fireline for your spinners,never seen it done this way.Best of luck,Ryan Hale
Size and type of line have a lot to do with water conditions. If the water is clear with several feet of visibility, a mono or flourocarbon rig may very well be a good choice. In stained or dirty water, it probably isn't needed. Also, time of day, ambient light, color choice and size, and mood of the fish may contribute to your choice. Cabelas has sold spinner rigs tied with 14 lb mono and also some with fireline. One thing to consider is that, unlike a lindy rig, a spinner rig is more of an aggressive, active, teaser type of bait. It is generally pulled a little faster, and the purpose of the blade is to attract fish by making a commotion. A live bait (Lindy or Roach rig) is much more of a SLOW finesse presentation than a spinner. Personally, I would be a lot more inclined to use small or "invisible" line on a live bait rig that will be looked at for a while and a larger line on a spinner that is churning away at a faster speed. However, using a removeable spinner blade and clip does lend a certain ability to go either way. One thing I have heard is that using a line that is too small might cause line twisting problems. So, the rules is.......they ain't no rules......... But, there are a few general concepts and guidlines to keep in mind. Just my two cents from what I have read here and there.
01-03-2003, 03:48 AM
I'm using 20 LB coated wire. I fish eastern Lake Erie. It works. Tried the mono's, floro's. Always trying something new. I'm tyeing this winter with wire for dependability. There easy to tye, so when I go to a different lake I'll use what works. I fished with PRO's who tye in the boat.
I might have missed it some where but since I'm tyeing, could we talk about favorite color. My favorite are:
(1)Rainbow Trout/Watermellon on Copper - Red & green beads
(2)Black/Purple - Black/Red - Black/Pearl beads
(3)Lite Green/Lite Blue on Copper - Lite Green/Lite blue beads
I'm looking for suggestions. If I tye I'm ok, if I don't I'm handed the honey do list. Help!
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01-03-2003, 06:10 AM
When it comes to making my own spinners I tend to favor Seagaur flourocarbon leader material. I also tend to use 14# to 20# leader material for these harnesses as well. The floro leader material is hard, and therefore allows the blade to spin freely on it's clevis. Especially the plastic ones that don't usually spin as easily as the metal blades.
Line that is too limp will cause twisting/tangling problems.
01-03-2003, 06:59 AM
What kind of knots have you been using with the Seagaur flourocarbon?
Do you lubricate?
Experience any knot breakage?
01-03-2003, 05:05 PM
I take the hint you don't want to talk color.
><<<<<*> Looney Tunes
01-03-2003, 09:06 PM
I generally snell my hooks onto the leader then use a Surgeon's end loop for connecting to the main line with a high quality ball bearing snap swivel. I always lubricate the line while snugging the knots tight.
As far as colors go, the previous posting covered several of them. The only one I would have to add is a "Rainbow" pattern that I tie up.
01-04-2003, 06:46 AM
I use 10 pound trilene mono. Most of the time I use a bottom bouncer in front of the spinner. If I get snagged and can't get the spinner out of the snag I can usually just break off the spinner, so get my Bottom Bouncer back.
JIM T. WHAT TYPE BLADES, AND SIZE DO YOU USE ON THE EASTERN END OF ERIE THANKS
01-05-2003, 03:17 PM
I start spring with two (2) Willowleaf #4 with #6 beads. Then move as bait grows bigger to one (1) #5 Willowleaf with #8 beads. I go to the Colorado Deep Cup Blades in August a #6 & 7. Lots of flash and wobble. I use some Colorado and fluted willowleaf also but mostly (2) # 4 Willowleaf.
><<<<<*> Looney Tunes
01-06-2003, 07:57 PM
I have used just about every kind of line for harnesses imaginable. I have the luxury of fishing 3 miles from my house all summer for fish 1-6 lbs with bottom bouncers. The best line I have used tested on actual fish day in and day out has proved to be Maxima green. I use 10lb most of the time and when I tie for big fish 12lb. Always use a good swivel. Flourocarbon leader material is my second choice but it is expensive and even under clear water conditions hasn't produced better results.
My favorite walleye colors are the same as crankbait colors and then some. My favotite size is #5 Colorado on Erie when a slower presentation is used. A #6 Indiana when faster is more desirable. I have used wire and willows fishing the central and eastern basins and have found that instead of wire 16lb-20lb Mason mono leader line was better and held up almost as long if not longer. I use quick change clevis' and always have plenty of color combinations on hand to change up. If you are on fish and using spinners and not catching, keep changing, you may be surprised when you get it right (on any given day) at the results.
old fisherman; i have been using 14# stren f/c line. this is not the leader material. it has been great for me. i agree w/keith on 14 to 20#line.imho this is not finesse fishing. have not yet broken any. i make mine about 4 ft. long or so, then when on the water.i can shorten if ineed too.i also tie a double surgeons knot. use a good swivel on the bouncer. i tie uni-knots totie on the hooks. try some & good luck. bill
01-07-2003, 08:47 PM
I have been using Damyl Tectan 13.1# mono from Cabelas. .0100 diameter which is the same as most 6-8# line. Works great and gives you added strength for the diameter of line. If trolling the great lakes I would probable increase to their 17.4 line which has a 0.120 diameter or eqivilent to most 8-10# lines.