I got 3 items in my box that don't get much playing time but I was wondering how deep they'd go if I decided to throw them overboard. Erie Dearie, Canadian Wiggler, and your basic 3-hook crawler harness. This is just in general, so please include your line, speed, etc... Thanks in advance.

Lizard King.
By the way I wont ask how you got that handle. Us normal guys prefer not to know:-).

Anyway, I'll take a stab at the Erie Derie, the one lure I've had some practice with. And maybe the harness as well. I know that when anchored and casting it, the usual method is to count it down. Meaning, one thousand one, one thousand two, etc. In every count the Erie falls 1 foot, or close enough to it. This way you can put the lure where the marks on the graph are.

Now trolling with it is a different proposition. The weight of it, along with the speed of the troll of course will make a big difference. And I dont believe anybody has actually put this type lure in the trolling speed/depth bible yet. Or at least not the one I own.

So I would do my own figuring if I were you. How you ask? Before that neat trolling guide book, I did my own depth figuring. Peel off about 1 yard of line with the chosen lure on it. Get moving at the chosen trolling speed. Lay the tip of your rod so it just touches the water. How far down is your lure? Do the Math. 1 foot down with 3 feet out, or whatever it is. This method is not fool proof. You have line diametor, water drag on the line and all those scientific formulas that give you that confident feeling about what your doing is right. But you'll be darn close my friend. This works best on those Lead with a spinner, kinda do nothing, little action, more flash, type lures.

Same things works for the harness. Because the harness may have bigger blades, beads or bait on it.

lol. I don't know what your music background is, but I choose Lizard King in honor of Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors. He was known as the Lizard King. Lyrical genius, but he was out there. Left us too soon.

Anyhow, yeah I was interested in trolling depths for the Dearie as I'm a straight jig man when the boat ain't moving. My yearly vacation is usually to Lake Kipawa in Quebec. Lot of trolling over open water so it's hard to gauge depth by the bottom unless on shoreline. Been to Kipawa about 15 times since '79 (college took care of most of the rest). The fishing isn't quite what it was when I was a little squirt, but I like the challenge, makes a man use his head and maybe experiment more.

Pretty informative site they got rolling here. Been on here over a year but just started posting. Usually just read and try to learn. I skipped my 2002 trip for the birth of my son (well worth it). Since last time up though, I've purchased the bible and also added several members of the Reef Runner family to my arsenal as I had never heard of them. Also gonna try Shad Raps. I've always been a Hot-n-Tot man with the occasional Jointed Rapala mixed in. Usually can pick up fish jigging, but since this is my vacation I prefer trolling and enjoying the beautiful scenary at the same time I'm battling walleye. Now when I spot fish hopefully my readings from the scripture and some new ammo will help put my lures in front of their hungry mouths instead of above or below them. Thanks