FIZZING WALLEYE

[fisherman]

what is the proper way to fizz a walleye? What scales up and down and what angle.and please I do not need a lecture on how I should not fizz. ONLY INFORMATION PLEASE. thank you

[Walleye Express]

Fisherman.
You might be better off checking the archives, if you can as a guest user. The whole gammet of answers about fizzing, including the usual slams and death threats by people who both do and don't against the others, are all there.

[stevefellegy]

2-3 scales forward and two scales either side of centerline, ahead or infront of butthole. About a 45 degree angle toward the head and centerline of the fish. Hold the fish upside down, under the water, by the tail, and watch for the bubbling to start out the open end of the needle. Your done when the bubbles quit popping out. If it doesn't happen, do it again in the same hole. Sometimes a small piece of blood/flesh plugs the hole in the needle on the way in. Might have to repeat this several times to get it to work and sometimes, pulling the needle out and LEAVING it out will allow the air to release out the hole.

[fisherman]

thank you steve that was the response i was looking for. you have always been a great help on this board for answering questions.

[fisherman]

where can i get some needles? or do you use a standerd hypodermic needle?

[stevefellegy]

Look in the area where there are medical/medicines for cattle. Usually a Farm supply type store. Or farm section of a big department type store.The needles will be there. They are the heads of the whole syringe The bigger ones for 5lb. plus fish and the smallest for 1-2lb. fish and a size in between for the 3-5's. I always take three sizes with me. Don't forget to blow out the needle after using to insure it is clear before it drys. Sometimes, on the small ones, you have to use a heavy piece of mono to run through it to clear them of gunk.

[fisherman]

thanks again steve

[rangerstorm]

You may want to look into a new procedure were you use a alligator clip with about a 3 oz. weight attached to the anal fin and leave him in the live well alittle while,they will burp themselves and the weight keeps them upright,takes time but it does work.

[EYES GUY]

We had alot of boats do this procedure with the weight on the anel fin during a tournament last year. (Bay Of Green bay) Every one said it worked great.

[ETT]

As I understnd it, walleyes do not have the ability to burb the air out of their swim bladder. Perhaps with time it escapes some other way. Anyone have the background to know how they'd get rid od it?

[Happy]

Take a marker buoy and a wooden clothes-pin, drill holes in clothes-pin where you put your fingers to open and tie the buoy line to one side. Tie a 2 foot dropper line to the other side with a couple pound weight. Pinch the clothes-pin to the lower lip of the fish and lower it to the bottom of lake or river. Come back to buoy in 20 - 30 min or so. You will feel the fish swiming, jerk the line and the clothes-pin will come loose from the lip and fish will swim away. Friends of mine use this on Northerns that they bring up from 40', 50' and it seems to work fine.

[Jim Tunney]

On Lake Erie we pull all our fish from 15'to 70'. I've never had any luck with the weight system. Maybe my live well is too small, 90 guart, or the water is to warm, I don't know. I've fizzed a lot of fish and had good sucess. I've caught Walleye with bigger cuts and bruses than a needle mark. I'll keep trying the weight system.
I get my needles from a nurse, the hospitals use them for traps. If you been in a hospital, they put them in your arm for adding medicine and taking blood.
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[Omega]

ETT You're right they can't burp air like a laker there is no passage way between their air bladder and throat. They have to reabsorb the air through the tissue and this takes about an hour for every atmosphere of pressure. Not many fish caught from 30 feet will survive the hour to absorb the air with the excess pressure on their internal organs caused by the air bladder. For survival they either have to go back fast or be fizzed. The weight system has been around for a very long time and I used it to help a very large fish to recuperate from a big fight. They seemed to come around quicker when they weren't constantly fighting to right themselves.
Rich

[Texeye]

We turned some nice walleye loose this year from fairly deep water and did't fizz them.We brought them up slow because we knew they were big fish.I would say most came from around 45ft deep.All these fish when released went straight down out of sight.We only had one come to the surface and that one was hooked in the gills.None of them had stomachs out of their mouth like the sand bass we crank up too fast.

Is it safe to presume that all these other fish made it?? If a fish makes it back to the depth from which it was pulled is that enough? I know they send divers back down if they get the bends from coming up too fast and I just wondered if fish were affected this same way? Do all fish that die come floating back up shortly after their release? I know I have asked a lot of questions but if I release a fish I would like to think it survived.I like the idea of the weights but if they head for the bottom and don't come up why fizz? Thanks for any input.

[LCFISHERMAN]

To The Top--Curious????????????

[M2]

PWT pro Dave Kraft posted a detailed study on the general board last summer. It answered alot of questions I had. It may be in the archives still. M2

[retire55]

M2:

You were correct. A simple search on author in the general discussion section for Dave Kraft identified the thread easily (Nov 02). Anyone interested in the pros or cons of fizzing should have a look.

[Hookmaster]

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/anphys/2000/Martin/inflation.html

Check out this site for an explanation.

[rebs]

locate the anal opening and go over 2 scales and up toward the head 4 scales
then insert needle at a 45 angle
do this while the fish is upside down in water so you can see the air bubbles come out then stop coming out

you will also notice the fish will be very firm and when the air is out it will become somewhat soft

rebs

rebs