$49 Diawa Linecounters - sturdy enough?

[matt]

I need some LC's and I'm wondering how the cheaper LC's compare to the $92 ones. Can they stand up to planer boards?

[gms]

I picked a couple of the Shakespeare Line Counters and they work great for trolling.

Cheap investment.

Here is a link:

http://www.shakespeare-fishing.com/products/accessories/counters.shtml

[Atomic Eye]

There seems to be a mistake here. The Shakespeare Line Counter shown in the previous post only costs about $10 -11 per each at Wal Mart. I use a lot of them and generally consider them to be superb value for most uses. However, I also like my more expensive Daiwa line counter reels at 9X the price for some other applications.

Atomic Eye (New Mexico) -- "Gone Fission!" ~~~<}}}:>

[ryan]

Take a look at the Shakespeare line counter reels, not just the clip-ons. I have used both those and the diawas, and yes there is somewhat of a difference in how smooth they operate, but lets face it, if it accurately counts the line, all it needs to do after that is reel it in. They work great in my opinion and I won't buy anything else now. They are only $39 at cabelas and you can often find them on sale for less.

[rebs]

at 39.00 how good is that drag etc.??

rebs

[Rick]

I purchased the Daiwa Sealine 17 yesterday for $89 from Cabelas. I look at the AccuDepth for $54 but for$35 additional I thought I got a lot better reel fpr my main line counter reels.

[Jon]

Matt- If I am not mistaken I believe the new accudepths are built the same way the old 27&47 Lc's were, and guys have been using those forever. I wouldn't hesitate in buying them. The drag would be just fine for planer board fishing. I would be more concerned in the rod you are using for pulling boards. The drag is better on the new Sealines and you get an aluminum spool vs. a composite but unless I was fishing Salmon etc. I would probably go with the accudepths. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Sunshine]

Jon,

I totally agree with your comments. I saw the acuudepth 17 and 27's on sale at Fleet Farm in Green Bay yesterday for 41.99. Just had to pick a couple up. Played with them today and they seem awesome. Can't wait to do on the water testing.

[Fish Hound]

The Accudepth reels should be fine as long as you are using mono line. If you are going to use the superlines I would opt for the more expensive Sealine models.
See ya on the water. The Fish Hound

[Rick]

I liked the Accu-Depth and was my first choice.I bought the Sealine as I had a gift certificate and could afford to purchase. Also I wanted to use the linecounter on a hand-held 7ft medium rod for long-lining and the Sealine is a little more compact and fits a conventional casting rod better for this application. I am planning on purchasing 2 of the Acu-Depths for planner board use and one more Sealine 17 for planner and a second long-line set-up that I would put in a rod holder. Here in Iowa we can have 2 rods per and I usually have one hand-held and the other rod in the holder.

[SUPERTROLLER]

I'm wondering how the choice of line makes any difference in the reel to be purchased. Could you please elaborate as to why Superlines should not be used on the Accudepths? Thanks.

[bob oh]

Me too, the line choice has me stumped also?

[Sunshine]

ME Three(also),

Is it possible that he is expecting problems with super lines because of the material being used for spool? Just a guess.

[Dave in Mpls]

I would guess the reasoning has to do with the "better" drag system on the SG series vs the Accudepths....

Regards

[steve(IL)]

I think the drags are pretty similar design - if not the same. The main difference I see - unrelated to line choice issue - is the AD series has bushings vs the two BB's on the SG series. How will bushings hold up over time vs BB's?

[pwrfshn]

All,

I think the drag on the reels between the SG and the regular LC makes a big differece with the type of line.

I run both SGs and the the regular Great Lakes LCs (on the swap board now) and the LCs have a drag that is not as smooth as the LC. It is not a big problem with mono (I switched 2 of them to Maganthin this wekend to see if that would help) but with lead or superline it seems to slip or bind. This is not what you want with a superbraid IMHO.

My experience has been with bigger fish,where you need some more drag, the LCs have an ON or OFF setting for the drag.+

Steve(IL),

The old SGs were bushing and last forever (well almost forever ;) ).

Good luck,

[SUPERTROLLER]

I wish you guys would have waited for him to give us some crazy reason for his statement. There is absolutely no reason that Mono or Superline will work better on either one of these reels! The Accudepths are almost a copy of the SG's. The reel housing is different but the insides are made the same way as the SG's used to be. Now the SG's have bearings instead of bushings. You need to run a looser drag with superlines. It doesn't matter which reel you run it on. Mono's stretch allows you to run a tighter drag before the tension builds enough to make the drag slip.

[Fish Hound]

The Accudepth has a plastic/graphite spool. The super lines can be hard on graphite spools. The SG27LC's and 47LC's have metal spools.
See ya on the water. The Fish Hound
The Fish Hound

[SUPERTROLLER]

You can't tie direct to the spool with a Superline. It will slip on the spool. You need to put some mono on first and then tie the Superline on afterwards. This arguement holds no validity.

[Fish Hound]

Pulling Dipsey Divers and inline boards with superlines on a graphite spool even with mono backing can 1. Crack the spool. 2. Cause the spool to warp to the sides interfering with the drag.
See ya on the water. The Fish Hound
The Fish Hound

[GR8WTHUNTER]

I might be nuts, but these are both level wind reels. Additional control of the drag can be created by using your thumb. I cut my fishing teeth fly fishing and quickly learned palming the reel as a drag. The thumb drag is quite easy to do on a level wind and palming also works on spinning reels. Rich

[SUPERTROLLER]

I've never heard of anyone having a problem such as you describe. The guys that are after Salmon and Steelhead would have alot of failures if what you say is true. They are fighting bigger, faster, stronger fighting fish than a walleye and I've never heard of any complaints about Superlines wrecking their reels. They pull Dipsey's at 300 or more ft. back from the boat and then fight a King that takes another 100 ft.on it's first crazy run. Why aren't they breaking spools and warping things?


If anyone has ever seen or heard from a close aquaintance of this being a problem,,, Please post it here. I'm not asking for a friend of a friend said a friend of his heard.....; I'm asking for actual factual cases of this happening. I don't believe it, as you can tell.

[SUPERTROLLER]

The drag's are the same thing as on the SG's; teflon impregnated felt washers.

[JVolpe29]

cabelas > just bought 2 >depthmaster II line counters combos on 9 ft rods (planer or dipsy or downrigger rods your choice) for just over $100 including shipping http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jhtml?id=0017604&navAction=push&navCount=2&indexId=cat350027&parentId=cat350027&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod-link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.net%2Ff%2F1460%2F 1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fconte nt%2FPod%2F01%2F76%2F04%2Fp017604ii01.jpg