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Cornhusker
08-17-2003, 02:57 PM
I would like to get my first line counter reel. I looked at the 27lc and its manual says that it is most accurate with 12 pound line. It suggested the 17lc for the most accurate count with 10 pound line. I would like to use this reel with the "precision trolling guide" Is the 17lc my best choice for this?

Also, I have read message strings where a "design flaw" has been inherent in both these two reels. (Line getting caught behind the spools and some sort of drag or clutch problem) I dont know I thing about reels really, Is this a big problem? SHould I even buy one? Thanks for your help and advice




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Denied
08-17-2003, 04:04 PM
I have a total of 8 daiwa sg27lc reels and have not had one problem with any of them. I bought two accudepth 17 lc from Daiwa this spring and have had problems with the clutch release and drag not holding. Best stick with what works.
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kc
08-17-2003, 10:54 PM
but is the 27lc give accurate readings with 10 pound test? Or is that the reason one should consider the 17?

Thanks

CarpetBagger
08-18-2003, 12:02 AM
Id personally go with the higher capacity reel (the 27) as for an accurate reading, if you fill the spool to capacity, the readings are very accurate. The lb test of the line doesnt matter as much since the reel doesnt have a brain to know which type of line it has on it it works off revolutions more than line diameter.

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Lund_Dude
08-18-2003, 09:23 AM
KC:

A number of folks "calibrate" the counters on their reels, this works irregardless of brand or model. First overfill the spool a bit with your line of choice. Measure off exactly a 100' length of ground (or other convenient distance) and mount a flag or marker. Pull line to the marker and check the reading. If it is less than 100' then there is too much line, and trim off a few feet and retry until you hit 100'. After one or two times cutting line, you should get a feel for how much you need to cut. Now you can setup all of your reels to be identical. Only problem is that when you get a major ^&(&*() then your calibration is off.

Jim Tunney
08-18-2003, 09:30 AM
I have eight Diawia's 27LC's and would not have another. I also have a few 47LC's but I don't need to carry that much line. I never had a problem with the drag or line getting behind the spool on either.
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Scott Steil
08-18-2003, 12:19 PM
I have the 17's and I am in the process of changing out the clutches on them. Right now I would recommend the 27's until they get the bugs worked out of the 17's.

JCarp
08-18-2003, 05:03 PM
I believe the dive curves in Precision Trolling were developed using Diawa 27's, fully spooled w/10 lb XT, rods two ft off the surface of the water. I think it says this somewhere in the 5th edition, don't know about #6 or #7. The book has a conversion table for some different diameters.

Hope this helps,
jc

JCarp
08-18-2003, 05:03 PM
I believe the dive curves in Precision Trolling were developed using Diawa 27's, fully spooled w/10 lb XT, rods two ft off the surface of the water. I think it says this somewhere in the 5th edition, don't know about #6 or #7. The book has a conversion table for some different diameters.

Hope this helps,
jc

Cornhusker
08-18-2003, 11:56 PM
thanks jcarp - that really helps me to decide. It was just in the diawa manual, it stated that the 17's were accurate with 10 pound line. But with the clutch troubles that I have heard of with the 17's and also some concern with line getting behind the spool, I will give the 27lc a try..


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perchjerker
08-19-2003, 09:21 AM
First, you have to remember that there are 2 lines of Daiwa lincounters now. The AD's and the SG's. Both are different than the good old reliable one everyone used with no problems for so long.

Now, they all seem to have thier troubles. Do a search on it and you will find them. I for one, have a AD27lc which had trouble right out of the box with the spool sticking when you released the clutch lever.Many other guys have had this problem. I took it apart and found the problem and fixed it.

The diawa rep (Toru) has helped out on another known issue with the SG27 clutch, and made it clear he wanted to hear from prople with other problems. I have emailed him a few times about the problem I have had and recieved no reply. Totally unprofessional on Diawas part. I gave up trying to contact them.

Personally, I think Daiwa has not done thier engineering homework or testing on either of these new reels. I am very disapponted in the company and wont buy from them again.

You can go ahead and buy one, try it, but keep your reciept. If its a problem reel, you can always return it. If it works, then thats great.

JCarp2
08-19-2003, 05:05 PM
I inadvertently picked up a couple of old style (bushings instead of bearings) SG27LC's in June, so finding "old stock" might be an option.

jc