What's Going on @ In-Fiisherman/ Walleye InSider ???!

[Esox7]

I renewed my Walleye Insider subscription @ the advertised 2/1 issue rate in mid-Dec..After several calls advising I had received 2 issues but my friend is yet to receive any issue and being assured they had all of the necessary info- still no shipment! I realize they are going thru transition but I'm hearing about other subscription problems as well.Anybody else having problems??

[chadk66]

Not only that but have you seen the 2002 walleye guide yet. What a huge disappointment. It is about half the size as normal, and most of the info in there is info that was in recent issues of In-sider. I do believe they are starting to run out of things to write about. Maybe that's why the Linders got out, they run out of things to write about,LOL. Anyway, I was pretty disappointed.

[ANXIOUS]

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS.... THAT'S WHY I QUIT SUBSCRIBING. ONE DAY I HAD A WOMAN CALL ME ON THE PHONE AND TRY TO SOLISIT(SP) ME INTO SUBSCRIBING AGAIN. I TOLD HER THAT I DIDNT CARE FOR THE MAGAZINE ANYMORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE ##### ADVERTISING,AND BECAUSE IT RARELY DEALT WITH MID-WEST FISHING(WALLEYE). SHE PROMISED THAT THEY HAD CHANGED THE FORMAT SO I TRIED IT AGAIN.... SAME CRAP!! NOW THEY ARE SENDING ME WALLEYE INSIDER AND I NEVER EVEN SUBSCRIBED. GO FIGURE. NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR MONEY!! I THINK THEY ARE GOING DOWN.

[SLIPKNOT]

AND IF I TYPE IN ALL CAPS I WILL GET MY POINT ACROSS BETTER! (sorry but i absolutely hate it when people type in all caps) I have not had any problem with walleye insider. It comes every month and is full of useful info. In-fisherman on the other had is basically useless. No info at all, and a poor publication.

[CJHughes]

I think the March Walleye-Insider had some great info such as the article Monster Max . I can't wait to try #5 silver or gold spinners 40 inches behind 3 oz bouncers for an average of 8.2 pounds of walleye. I have done the reefrunner thing for years up on Erie , now if I have a cold front come in I have a new weapon to try . Yea some of the pictures are repeat , but the pictures used in the Monster Max article are right on . I have netted a ton of big walleye right where those pictures were taken. I look forward to it , best source of info other than WC .

[RickTK]

I agree with the sentiment about the rehashing of articles and nothing new to say. I'm certainly no expert but competent enough to be beyond the basics and serious enough about the sport to want to know what's new.I think I subscribe only because of habit. I feel what the editors should delve into more are radio tracking studies and some of the cutting edge DNR research and unifying fishermen across the country to give us a greater voice on issues pertaining to seasons,research, access,multiple use and the direction and health our waters are headed.

[Backwater Eddy]

I disagree that the In-Fisherman has diminished its ability to educate and entertain the freshwater angler. In many ways I feel it is better then ever.

"Anxious" and others stated that they do not find his desired regional information, the Midwest. Define Midwest for me again please.

With just a quick page through of the February 2002 In-Fisherman I found it very easy to find several articles that are useful to the Midwestern angler. Steve Quinn, to name one has a fine article on "Walleye on the Run", a piece on walleye spawning behaviors. Isn’t that educational as well as seasonally relevant to the Midwest as well as everyone in walleye country? There are also bass, panfish, catfish, muskie, and pike, salmon and trout represented in this issue, all present somewhere in the Midwest.

The fact that the In-Fisherman in not overly regional specific, is a selling points for me as an angler. I like the "Going Places" section as well as other regional evaluations of where a bite may pop up, very useful stuff to many anglers. You just never can tell, we may go somewhere else and fish, someday?

Advertising pays the bills, without that they would go under just like any media operation. That is how the also pass along info on what's hot and what's not for us to sort through for future wish list's. Occasionally I do think it can get a bit thick with advertising, although that is common on most publication now days.

If walleye is the only fish you fish for than maybe the Walleye In-Sider and the the fine Walleye Central mag are the only mag's you need? There are also more more regionally specific publications avalable, some specific to the Midwest, if that is you main concern.

I get a kick out of guys who P&M about the In-Fisherman, but they are always the first to reach for my issue on the coffee table. I wonder why that is?

;)

Backwater Eddy ~ ~ ~><sUMo> ~ ><>

http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/backwtr1/home.html

[WAeyes]

I enjoy all the information that is available in the Walleye Insider. That being said, I have not seen an issue since the first week of October of last year! A family member has been signing me up for a free subscription for the last 2 years...I was told nothing about it, so I kept renewing my own subscription. After several ignored emails I finally called them and got some of it straightened out...I thought. Still no magazines and I have 2 years worth coming to me. I thought it was because of my far west location but I see others are having subscription problems too.

[targa2]

I agree that the magazine is a little less informative than it used to be but keep in mind that most of us have outgrown all that generic instruction. The major demographic( new and upcoming fishermen) is still a much larger number than those of us who have outgrown the old "rehashed" articals and subjects.A magazine cannot evolve simultaneously with it's readers over 20 years. It must stay with it's largest audience if it is to survive as a business.I think this is why the In-fish folks have branched off into specie- specific mags such as the In-sider line. I think they are wiser than you might want to believe.If they stay with us oldtimers long enough they will be writing about wheelchair accessible fishing locations and carrying out ads for Depends all day fishing undergarments. LOL

[water_wolf]

I still subscribe to both and ejoy and look forward to recieving them both. Haven't had any problems with rcvng issues as some of you have. I guess the only complaint that I can think of (as small as it is) is the ammount of large mouth bass arcticles that are in the In-Fish magazine. Seems lately there are 2 or 3 arcticles every issue on the rat fish of the water ways. Still all in all the most informative magazine on our sport.

Rich Ferguson

[Neal/CO]

I agree Eddie! If you just want Walleye information get the Insider. There is only so many walleye articles to be written. Everybody just keeps rehashing the same info every year. Lets see its almost spring, here comes the same half dozen articles about spawning eye's in rivers.

The last three In Fishermans have had alot good pike and bass info. Did anybody read the article on alternative spinner blade colors for bass and pike?

[Windblown]

I wish I could comment on this years Walleye-Insider, but since I still haven't received my 1st issue I can't. Repeated calls and numerous excuses such as "we're still entering December subscriptions" have left me cold. I was suppose to receive a gift subscription from a friend, who submitted his renewel at the same time he paid for my subscription. So far he's received every issue and I'm still waiting.

It's apparent they have a lot of customer service issues, and it's a shame that they're so apathetic. This use to be a well run organization.

[Fish-on]

I think the Walleye Insider that I just got in the mail a couple days ago is one of the best in a long time. Lot's of new and interesting stuff. As far as the Walleye Guide goes, the reason it's smaller is because there are fewer advertisers, they prbably jacked up the ad rates in order to make advertisers pay more and reduce the size of the magazine due to increased postage costs. Many magazines are doing that. The general rules of thumb in the past about 60/40 ads to editorial content ratio is going out the window and postage rates continue to escalate.

As far as the content of the Guide goes, it's entry level stuff, real basic, always has been. In part, it's designed to get people hooked and move them into subscribing to the Walleye Insider. Therefore it's aimed at the lower end of the experience level. Sometimes I'm a little disappointed in the In-Fisherman publications these days, but it is still the best thing out there in my opinion.

[curt quesnell]

Pssst Eddie..

In-Fisherman is something some people like to complain about.
They dont need a good reason (or an actual reason). In-Fish
is corporate now so it must be bad.

Other oft complained about topics include...DNR, PWT, tournements,
tournement boats, boats with big motors, DNR, people fishing in
my secret spot (community fishing hole), tournement anglers and
did I mention the DNR. (and people misspelling tournement, uhhh
tournament, tournys, tournies......) (but Ed, you know that dont you).



Dont everyone get nuts on me...If you dont like it dont get it. Its
easy enough to figure. I'm gonna spend several hours with my
2002 Walleye Guide and I know I'm gonna love it. The ads are
just as informative as the stories.

It is amazing to me how they keep getting new and fresh stuff
after all these years. Yes some things are visited again and
yet again but people forget and new people read the mag.

If you are against running stories on the same subject then most
of the posts here on Walleye Central need to be deleted. This
same thread is repeated twice a year..

Maybe we should start one of those survey threads on the subject
to see if I am off the mark on this. (or how far off the mark I
am).

Curt Quesnell

[curt quesnell]

I feel your pain....It seems that when mail order type stuff gets
mixed up it is not easy to remedy. I cant imagaine why its a
struggle but I know that it is. Keep a cool head and good luck!!!

Curt Quesnell

[just-fishin']

chadk66 and anxious must need tutoring. their reading skills must be pretty poor if they can't find interesting articles in walleye in-sider. everyones opinions are welcomed here, but give me a break... if you guys are so skilled and full of knowledge, you should write for walleye-insider and reveal some of your wisdom to the rest of us.
less whining, more fishing!
i love walleye in-sider, but then again; i am just learning.

[North Dakota]

I like the walleye-insider, its usually full of neat ideas and I like the tournament trail information. But I do indeed think this years walleye guide was disappointing.

[Shellback]

I subscribed to Walleye Insider several months ago and got my first mag in about 6 weeks. My second issue, I recieved only the cover with my address in an envelope from the post office. Called Walleye Insider and they said they would send another out to me, sure enough in a couple weeks it came mailed in an envelope. Their service seems fine to me.

[WAeyes]

If everyone would just chill out hear a minute. This post was not started to bash or praise the content or direction of the In-Fisherman/Walleye Insider. It was started to see if other people are having subscription problems...and some are. Lets just stay on the original topic here guys. Maybe if we can keep this civilized, someone from In-Fisherman will see this post and get it straightened out.

[ANXIOUS]

o.k i will type this one in all lower case just for you SLIPKNOT(what kind of point were you trying to get across by using all upper case letters for your name?) the other thing that used to burn me was that as a pre-paid sub scriber i was always able to purchase the latest in-fisherman on the local news stand before mine came in the mail! oh ya and im sorry about the upper case type, i guess i didnt notice it while i made that post,i will try to do better next time.

[Windblown]

Amen!

[W'eyes Guy]

I thought I was having some of the same problems with delivery of my Walleye In-sider mags as some of you seem to be. Then my 2 yr old daughter came to me with her dolly suitcase that had the last two issues of Daddy's "fishy books" in it. She likes to look at the "big waweyes"; that's my girl!

#610

[Byron]

I did the 2for 1 thing too. My buddy has received 3 issues and I have not received any. Who should i call? any body got a #. I really don't want to miss any spring issues. Thanks

[Esox7]

Try 1 (800)441-1740 for subscription questions,I have spoken with Rebecca& Casey or www.in-fisherman.com .Good Luck!!

[Bo]

Hi Guys, No problem here receiving my issues of either magazine. I still look forward to receiving both of them. Lots of good info. You all have a great day and think spring, Bo #582

[Big Fish Eddie]

FYI: It's not that the mags are running out of stuff to write about, it is that with the economy taking a dump, they barley have any advertisers. I know it looks like they are all advertising anyway, but the less ads, the less $ they have to pay writers. It is not just the Walleye-Insider, but all mags.!

[Western Walleye Editor]

As the editor of another publication, Western Walleye, I thought I would throw in my two cents for what its worth. I am a subscriber of Walleye Insider and have not encountered any of the issues that are mentioned. A couple years ago my dad subscribed for me and I renewed it… Working for a magazine and as a subscriber to a variety of magazines I see both sides of this. One tip is that if you have to call them about an issue, have them read back to you the entries they are making on the computer. With a very simple last name of Hons, I get mail as Hans, Hanf, Hamfs, Haunphs, etc. Let alone when we start giving city names like some out here in Montana like Ekalaka or Absarokee. People make mistakes and issues can be lost. If you don’t get an issue, let them know and confirm your ending date. I am sure that In-Fisherman/Walleye Insider will handle this the same way we will. If a customer misses an issue, their subscription will be extended by an issue. They are a business and don’t want to lose their customers. If there are problems, help them fix them. As another post mentioned, there are regional publications like ours that are focusing on waters in specific areas. Ours covers, ND, SD, MT, WY and Saskatchewan including the local tournament series. Others cover other areas. If you are looking for articles on a specific tip or fishery you heard about somewhere, write to the production staff. Ours, and I am sure theirs, will do all they can to get that info in a future issue.



As I said, if there are issues, lets all work together and we can get them solved…


Thanks,

[Schnauzer]

I subscribed to Walleye Insider a couple months ago. I immediately got not one but two of the most recent issue at the time. I chose the "bill me" later option and the bill took a long time to come. When it did, my wife mailed a check for the bill amount the next day. Some more time goes by and I get the old "pay up or your subscription will be canceled" letter. The letter was post-dated two days after the check had been cashed! Then... nothing... no more Walleye Insider. I called to check on my subscription and was told they had fixed the mistake and a new one would go in the mail right away. Then... nothing... again. I called back after another two weeks and was told everything was in order - it just takes longer because they are sent out third class. I thought that was strange, I would think they would send out first class in a situation like that. I finally did get it so I think everything is now in order... I hope.

[Eyecrosser]

I have been bothered a little when they send me letters after my first issue stating my subcription is due. Can't they give a guy a little time to relax and enjoy the magazine? I know it's not that much to complain about, it's just a litte irritating. Great product besides that.

[dave]

By the time I was 18 I had subscriptions for 10 years on some magazines & it's the same old thing every issue & that was 20 years ago.

[colorado jim]

i have never had a problem and subscription was started approx.1978..
i think some of you folks have missed the transfer of ownership from the lindners to gannett, i think it is.so ,new owner new computer system...have a problem call them up and i bet they take care of you.
just my 2 cents.