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GBUSA
04-27-2004, 04:59 PM
As I said in my last post I would post what I found in my research. I feel that I am done and ready to give it up.

First, as for as units: It is believed that Garmin is the leadert in the technology. I am not so sure, but with Garmin, Lowrance, and Huminbird you have to use their map software. In other words, you just can't use navionics, cmap and hotspots on any unit. So, that means that the unit manufactures just license one type of software or two and that iws it. I understand that juse MAYBE, Furino will accept all softwares.

Now for accuracy of detail that was my buying drive:
I had Navionics and hotspots send me a copy by email that I could observe. I got both for the same area of Erie (from ohio line to Erie, PA). The maps are and have nothing more than the NOAH maps that were printed many nmany years ago. You will find various depths that are in numbers all over the map but have no contours. The shore is where there is the most contours (up to 23').

Final conclusion is: The GPS manufactures run the situation if there is any tech problems, not the software companies. The GPS is only accurate from +/- 10-15 ft. Get WAAS with your unit if you get one(it is like an extra signal with GPS satelites to make sure that you get a signal in all conditions). If you hav any type of top on your boat you have to et an external antenna.

The maps need much more detail for my interest and investment of up to $1K. I see no good reason for my Central Erie fishing to get a GPS when the detail is not there. I do see where a Western Basin user will have more use due to the detail being more intense with more structure. I believe I will wait until they improve the detail (need to re-map) and use my Loran until 2008 when the signal is going to be illiminated.

My sugestion is what I have heard many captains say in the central basin. Improve the quality of the map contours and get the units accuracy less than +/- 10-15 ft (+/- 2-5 ft.) and you have a great tool worth adding.
Hope this helps.
GB&GBUSA,

Gilligan
04-27-2004, 06:50 PM
Jerry...why didn't you look at the Bluecharts? They have all the contour lines you are looking for.

perchjerker
04-28-2004, 08:59 AM
Thats a great report. But, its like anything else. If the data isnt available for your application, it probably isnt what you want. As you said, it depends on where you fish. For my area, I think its great to have mapping capabilities. And since I can record sonar readings and thier gps locations on my memory card, I am going to add detail to the areas I fish on a regular basis after I download the info to my pc and make my own, more detailed maps.

GBUSA
04-28-2004, 03:49 PM
I talked to garmin and they didn't offer to send anything. If Blucharts will give me what I want I will buy it now. I will try to get a copy of what they offer or if you can send me a copy of anything starting fron Presque Isle Bay West. If you send it has to be able to come up in adobe 5. It seem Mackintosh computers don't work. But, the last you sent I opened. I would just love to have the detail. Also, the sonar posted to make your own maps, how and what is needed to do such a task.
GB&GBUSA,

Gilligan
04-28-2004, 04:29 PM
Hi Jerry, I think I mailed you some topo maps of Erie/Dunkirk area last year. If I did and you still have them, I printed those off the bluecharts. Have a look, if you don't find them I'll try running some more but having puter troubles with the cd rom.

Nothing else, we will be fishing the KAWA 3 Rivers tournament in Pittsburgh (May 12-16) you can stop at the motel or go out on the river a day and I'll show you on the graph. The bluecharts are pretty much a great lakes map but then I'm assuming with you on Erie so much that is what you want...let me know.

GBUSA
04-28-2004, 04:50 PM
Fred:
I will email you at home.
GB&GBUSA,
Jerry

perchjerker
04-29-2004, 05:20 AM
Jerry-

To make your own map, first you need a unit capable of recording sonar readings and thier lat/lon locations. My Lowrance X15 and other Lowrance units can do this, I know Garmins cannot, Im not sure about the rest. So you would have to make the decision to go with a unit with that capability first. If you want more details, you can email me. I am going to make one this summer for an area of Erie I hang out at.

Big Julie
04-30-2004, 07:14 AM
Hi guys,

I'm interested in more information relating to creating one's own maps.
You can actually tweak a current map, or create one from your sonar's readings?
That would be so cool to detail an area...!

I'm from central Mn. and fish relatively small (1,000-10,000 acre lakes)
I'm using Lake Master maps of these.

Would a person be able to add detail to these?
They're the most accurate maps I've ever seen of these lakes, but would be nice to tweak them a little here and there.

Can you give me more info, or send me to a place to learn more...?

Thanks.
Big Julie