inline sinker - dept chart

[walleyehound]

Hey Guys,


I just started using in-line sinkers for walleye. I'm hoping to find a chart showing the depth that the in-line get using a crawler harness. I'm aware that the variables (weight of in-line, blade size, # of blades, and type of blade) have some bearing on the setup, but need something to begin adjusting from. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

[eyedoktr]

For snap-ons, bottom bouncers and inlines,I usually figure 10 foot per ounce.It generally is a good starting point.

[mrbreeze]

Ditto and I figure the 1oz/10feet at about 30 feet back.

[Campingkids unloggd]

In the front section of Precision Trolling is 2-3 pages going over in-line sinkers. Used the chart the other week and it seemed to be on the money. I used the 50/50 method they sugested using with crawler harness.

Good Luck
JT

[JBL]

The inline, or keel weights are quite speed dependent. If you troll a 1oz inline in front of a spinner at 2.0mph it will run higher than at 1.0mph. Generally speaking, you are going to pull spinners pretty slow like 1.5mph. I like to pick a line length like 40 or 60 feet and run this setup behind boards and then run say 1oz on one and 2oz on another and let the fish tell me what they like. You want to err on the side of being above the fish rather than below while trying to establish a pattern.


>Hey Guys,
>
>
>I just started using in-line sinkers for walleye. I'm hoping
>to find a chart showing the depth that the in-line get using a
>crawler harness. I'm aware that the variables (weight of
>in-line, blade size, # of blades, and type of blade) have some
>bearing on the setup, but need something to begin adjusting
>from. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
>

[walleyehound]

Thanks for the info.
Should have gotten back sooner, but was unable. I have copy of
Pre/Toll (holy grail- some say) but, water damage to the first few pages renders the reading of it impossible.
Thanks once again.

[tbomn]

Don't you just hate when that happens....I wonder when the trolling guys are going to start using waterproof paper instead of the "super stick together when wet" paper.

[Groony]

Reluctantly, I will share this info. I wouldn't, except it's already been published in one of the Walleye Insiders.

Perhaps the best spinner puller on the planet, John Gilman, uses the same setup wherever he goes. He trolls one ounce in lines at one mile per hour. This generally gets you half the depth of the line out (if that makes sense).

EG: Twenty feet of line out gets you ten feet down. Forty gets you twenty......etc, etc.

Of course there are variables. Current, blade size, etc.......

Hope this helps.

Carl Grunwaldt

[pwrfshn]

Carl,

What leader length does he run before attaching the weight??

I'm guessing from reading your post that it is a simple 50/50 style (half and half). For example, 20 would be 10 and 10, 40 would be 20 and 20, etc...

BTW, great season this year buddy. Hope to see you in February and maybe at some of those southern reservoir PWTs this year. GREAT SEASON!

[Sunshine]

Mex,

You may be mistaken. They're not talking snap weights. A typical set up would be a 5-6 foot harness attached to a 1 ounce in-line and then the length of line that they refer to.

I hope Carl comes back and clarifies.

[pwrfshn]

Thanks for the clarification Dennis, I thought that it may have been something else, didn't see the WI article.

(you know what I am thinking on the "other topic") }(

[Toolman]

I usually run spinners with snaps (as opposed to keel weights). My question is: What bearing would the leader length on a keel weight (or in the snap weight's case the length from the spinner to the snap) have on the depth that the spinner runs? Just curious because in my mind the spinner basically "swims" at the same level as the weight. Obviously you would add a bit of depth as the lead lengths increase, especially at slower speeds but it seems that it wouldn't be real significant . Am I missing something? Thanks.

[pwrfshn]

Now I am really confused. We need a way to put pictures in the post. LOL

My question has more to do with where the weight is being placed? I do believe the distance the weight is from the spinner has an influence on the depth, but I am probably wrong. LOL ;)

When we were at LBDN and I was fishing with a friend of Carl's we were pulling BBs off boards and using the method Carl referenced, I just didn't know it at the time. LOL

We ran 1oz bbs at 1mph in 10 FOW with 20 foot of line out. If I am correct we were basically draggin bottom??

[Sunshine]

You guys are asking great questions. Unfortunately there is not a finite answer. Besides length of lead, the diameter of line used on the harness, kinds of beads used (brass as an example), size of blades, types of blades, and type of weight (shape) can all have an effect on final depth achieved. But if you are looking for a basic rule to follow, starting with the one ounce rule, will get you in the ball park. You can play and/or modify from there. A personal example: I like using larger blades and metal beads on the great lakes. I know through trial and error that my harnesses go deeper than others.

Now to confuse you even more.............

I generally always start with an in-line weight. I like in-lines because they are easier to use IMHO. But there are times when I have more confidence in using a snap weight. Big waves are an example when I will switch to snap weights using the 50/50 method or 30/50 method. I believe that big waves can give the harness too much of a vertical action and snap weights take away much of this movement because of the pendulum effect.

Mex, I also sometimes use a bottom bouncer as an in-line. I use it more when I’m working irregular depths where I run the risk of occasionally hitting bottom. My “gut” feeling is that bottom bouncers ride up a little more than keel weights because they have more drag.

Don’t get too worked up over any of this. In most situations we’re talking inches not feet as far as the difference in running depth…………………….. now speed………….. that’s completely different ;-)

I’ve been known to be way to anal in dissecting presentations like this. Now you see why ;-)

[pwrfshn]

LOL

Great answers Dennis.

I've yet to play with inlines much in our waters but I had Bob Schmidt down from Mack's lure this weekend and I spent a lot of time learning stuff from him, great guy BTW.

Anyway, I'll be playing with spinners a lot more, and also my weight systems, the crank thing is limited at best in our reservoirs so I need to step up my abilities with the jig and rig.

As for weigth systems, has anyone heard of a slinky type weight as a sub for a bb? Not the foam walker, but something different. Maybe I've seen or heard of it and just cna't think of its name.

Thanks,

[Toolman]

Mex,

I think what you are refering to are called precicely that-Slinky weights. I'm not familiar with their use , but I believe they are a nylon sleeve filled with lead shot to be used much like a bouncer. Then again-I may be out in left field. :)

Tim