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Remchester
08-15-2007, 06:00 PM
What knot should I use to tie a 10# fluorocrbon leader onto 10# Fireline? Guys I need help as I can't seem to get anything to hold.

Remchester
08-15-2007, 06:00 PM
What knot should I use to tie a 10# fluorocrbon leader onto 10# Fireline? Guys I need help as I can't seem to get anything to hold.

BROKEN OAR
08-15-2007, 06:27 PM
Blood knot

BROKEN OAR
08-15-2007, 06:27 PM
Blood knot

Steve B
08-15-2007, 06:29 PM
http://www.netknots.com/html/fishing_knots.html

Steve B
08-15-2007, 06:29 PM
http://www.netknots.com/html/fishing_knots.html

Steve B
08-15-2007, 06:32 PM
I usually use a double uni knot to join floro leaders to my main line. I used to question their integrity on big fish, but this spring I caught a 43 lb flathead catfish on 12 lb mono with a 12 lb leader of floro joined with the double uni, and I was sold on its strength.

Steve B
08-15-2007, 06:32 PM
I usually use a double uni knot to join floro leaders to my main line. I used to question their integrity on big fish, but this spring I caught a 43 lb flathead catfish on 12 lb mono with a 12 lb leader of floro joined with the double uni, and I was sold on its strength.

triple-j
08-15-2007, 06:52 PM
I second the back to back uni. Been using this for salmon fishing for a few years with no problems

triple-j
08-15-2007, 06:52 PM
I second the back to back uni. Been using this for salmon fishing for a few years with no problems

Toolman
08-15-2007, 07:38 PM
10/4 Fireline is really thin and will cut thru a uni-knot. Try doubling the Fireline and then tying the knot. It helps the knot strength tremendously.

Tim

Remchester
08-15-2007, 07:41 PM
Thanks. I'll try the double uni knot again and double I assume the loop.

Toolman
08-16-2007, 07:44 AM
I didn't explain myself very well in my last post. Double about a 6" length of the Fireline and then tie the back-to-back uni-knot. I think the thickness of the doubled line helps keep the Fireline from cutting thru the leader material.

Tim

Pond scum
08-16-2007, 08:21 AM
Blood knot.

Meat Hunter Unlogged
08-16-2007, 08:33 AM
Seaugar knot. I wouldn't use a blood knot.



Meat Hunter.

Love to Troll
08-16-2007, 09:33 AM
Another vote for the double uni knot. I have NEVER had a line break at this knot (plus the knot is great for keeping weeds/floating junk away from the lure/bait/whatever).

Remchest
08-16-2007, 03:23 PM
Thanks! I believe I get it now.

KLN2
08-16-2007, 06:01 PM
I agree with the blood knot.

Pond scum
08-17-2007, 02:50 PM
I agree with what Toolman is saying. A Double-Uni will pull/cut through other lines when you are using fireline or Power Pro. I have had this happen repeatedly when joining these superlines with fluoro, mono, and especially leadcore. The Blood Knot is a much better knot when joining these types of lines. Not putting down the Double-Uni as it is a great knot, but you have to consider the applications when choosing the proper knot.

CRAZYEYES
08-17-2007, 08:43 PM
I have been using an Albright knot for years, learned this from an "old salt" salt water captain, these guys have been using power pro to flouro for a lot of years, Ive never had a problem.:secret:

hgmeyer_unlogged...
08-17-2007, 10:18 PM
Here comes the soapbox speech... First, I use the double uni-knot... 8lb firelie and above I don't double the loop in the fireline... Under 8lbs, I too double the fireline loop and then tie the double uni-knot....

HOWEVER, I superglue every knot... It's like fire insurance... hope I don't need it... but I am not stupid enough to believe I might not need it someday... Plus, it "smooths" the knot and flows therough the guides better...

triple-j
08-18-2007, 06:26 AM
I've been using the double uni for years, although I do use it on alittle heavier line, mostly power-pro to mono, and have NEVER had it cut through my mono leader. even in the power-pro instruction sheet it has the back to back uni as a knot recomended for tying leaders to the power-pro.

REW
08-19-2007, 11:14 AM
I jsut read an article yesterday in a salt water fishing magazine which did a very extensive testing of virtually every brand line with respect to knot strengh and line breakage.

The conclusion reached by this article was that the double line 7 wrap bimmini knot was one of the best overall knots for all of these applications.

The palamor and unit knots worked but were down the list a bit.

Take care
REW

SCHawk
08-19-2007, 08:51 PM
I have great respect for REW and his knot advice is right on, but I am now in the "never will use Fluorocarbon again camp" having lost my lifetime largest smallmouth at the net to a super glued palomar knot after it gave way.

Meat Hunter Unlogged
08-20-2007, 05:38 AM
I hear ya' about the knots popping, and that's when it'll pop, when you put a sudden jerk on it.

I lost a lure this weekend that they don't make anymore, Fireline to fluro. I think the Berkley Vanish pops a lot more than Seaguar. This is definately my last spool of Vanish. Spend the money and buy the Seaguar.


Meat Hunter.

hgmeyer
08-20-2007, 07:29 AM
You should of had me holding that fish with my fingers... I was tying up some snells on Saturday while representing our club at a sports show in a retail store. Got to talking to a gentleman after gluing a knot... Well some of the glue ran and there I was holding a snell between my thumb and forefinger of my right hand... asking a store employee if I could borrow a razor blade/box cutter!

MSUICEMAN
08-20-2007, 08:42 AM
albright with a lock knot. super duper strong, easy to tie. i also do superglue them just to smooth it out a bit and they go right through the guides without a problem.

REW
08-20-2007, 10:38 PM
SHC,
I made the same decision about the NON use of florocarbon several years ago. I lost several nice fish - with a break at the knot.
I tried several different brands of different lb test and had similar results.
All of the florcarbon ended up the garbage and has not been on my reel since.

I really found little or no difference between mono and florcarbon any way. There are some differences with respect to floating and or sinking - with respect to floro or mono line. However, I have learned to get the bait to where I want by using a different technique and staying with mono, power pro, or fireline.

Take care and go with unbroken knots!!

REW

MSUICEMAN
08-21-2007, 06:12 AM
as far as the use of florocarbon.... i'm a big fan of P-line floroclear that isn't pure florocarbon.... it is floro and copolymer. Seems to hold knots really well, cast good, and the fish don't mind it either!

that being said, i've used pure florocarbon on ice fishing rods with success... but i've had good and bad spools of the pure florocarbon stuff so either it breaks down quickly when on the shelf or there are some serious quality control issues when dealing with florocarbon.