Parsons-Kavajecz 12 foot trolling rods

[Ryno]

Does anyone out there have any experience with Gary and Keiths Bass Pro Walleye signature series 12 foot trolling rods? What is your feeling as to spine and tip bend? Just don't want a 12 foot rod that ends up 9 foot because of the action.
Ryno

[Jim Tunney]

Why a 12' trolling rod. I use eight footers.
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[fishhogg]

Seems a little long to me as well. I have a couple of 10'6" Dipsey rods that were to long for my taste. They can get unwieldly pretty quickly, in fact they are now backup rods and have been replaced with the 9' rods I should have gotten in the first place. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Ric Flair]

Why 12 foot trolling rods? Because somebody will buy them because the pros say they are the best. There was somebody a while back selling 5 foot bouncer rods too.

[fishhogg]

I bought a couple of the 5' trolling rods and they work pretty good when I use them for contour trolling with longer rods on the outside, and maybe that is what they have in mind. I am getting to the point that I am getting a lot of speciality rods for this technique or that. Kinda miss my old 14' alum. w/9.9hp and flasher with the mud flaps for splash gaurds and a flasher unit. Caught a ton of fish out of that boat! Oh well, age of the boy thing I guess.

[Gilligan]

I think those rods were intended for flat lining core? Setting up a 12' on outside and short rod inside gave you 2 rods a side without having to run boards.

Jim...that pack of boats on my spot during the Southtowns last year may have ripped a 12' rod off a boat!

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[walleyewolf1]

I saw these rods showcased on the Next Bite show, they were developed for the slow death presentation with bouncers, they used a 6 foot bouncer rod on the inside and these 12 footers on the outside. they had a very wide trolling path up the side of a break with a lot of turns in the contour and no tangles.

[Jim Tunney]

Fred
We are looking for weight station attendants for Barcelona. Hint Hint
I'll just look for the flock of boats to find you. All I realy need is Vince's spot. He has the big girls wired.

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[Mille Lacs Guy]

The rods you saw for the slow death technique are not the trolling rods they are the dead stick rods. They are also 12 feet in length but have a softer action for dead sticking. The 12 foot trolling rods are very nice from what I hear and are made for flat lining lead core or fireline. You can get a good line spread without using boards.

[bdirks]

Why 12' rods? Because they work. They are a great way to spread your lines when trolling leadcore. They also work for trolling boards. I have used the 2 piece 10'6" Scheel's rods for boards and have had good results. The longer rods have good backbone and a soft tip and they "wave" the boards more. They will give a longer stall and surge to your baits. I tried the long rod and planer board combo after reading about some pros doing it with good results.

Also, the long rods are great in flooded timber when you need to spread your lines, but not enough room for boards, and you need added line and lure control versus boards. The long rods are the ticket.

The Bass Pro Walleye Rods always seem to get good reviews from the people that buy them and try them. I would suspect the same level of quality in the new trolling rods.

Just my two cents,
Brian

[Gilligan]

Jim...
Would like to talk some of my clients into entering the Southtowns, would have had good money fish 3 of the last 4 years. Hoping to be filled with charters all those days and no time for sitting in front of a scale! Won't find me near a flock of boats, I avoid crowds like the plague.

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[Jim Tunney]

Tell your customers that the tournamet is only $25.00 for nine days. The kicker is you have to join the club. There are lots of extras being a member for the extra $25.00
You know Vince Plasceki, He has all the weigh station spots manned.

How I'm going to find ya! If you're not drawing a crowd. Put a Castaways Flag on the 12' pol.
I think I figured your spot from my chart. So I'll be there as I could use the money.
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[Burr]

I'm with you brian. There are lots of reasons for the longer rods - not just spreading out your lines without using boards. My longest rods are usually the first out the side of the boat, even in Minnesota where we can only put one out.

I've got a couple custom 14' rods ordered - so I probably will not add the 12's to the 10'6" I have, and 14's I'm getting. But I will take a close look before I leave them behind.

If they have one in the dead stick model, I may pick up a pair. I can still recall KK when he was our guest speaker at our walleye club - and his dead stick rod he had with him. I've never found another dead stick rod with the same action as he showed us that evening. No Bass Pro around here...

[KHedquist]

>I'm with you brian. There are lots of reasons for the longer
>rods - not just spreading out your lines without using boards.
> My longest rods are usually the first out the side of the
>boat, even in Minnesota where we can only put one out.
>
>I've got a couple custom 14' rods ordered - so I probably will
>not add the 12's to the 10'6" I have, and 14's I'm getting.
>But I will take a close look before I leave them behind.
>
>If they have one in the dead stick model, I may pick up a
>pair. I can still recall KK when he was our guest speaker at
>our walleye club - and his dead stick rod he had with him.
>I've never found another dead stick rod with the same action
>as he showed us that evening. No Bass Pro around here...
>
>


Holy smokes Burr, are you going to have a "WIDE LOAD" sign on your boat with flashing lights to warn everyone? I dont think Winnie is wide enough?

NPAA # 292 All fisherman are liers except for me and you, and I'm not so sure about you?
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[Burr]

Not really - anyone with short rods, and boards out can be much wider.

Anyhow - Winnie is in Minnesota - so I'll only be wide on one side of the boat! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[KlassAct]

Given reel & line to match conditions, proper rod backbone, tip, and elasticity of the rod, the longer the lever, the bigger, and more far away the underwater world you can lift. If using triggers, the longer the lever, the more exaggerated the tripped lift after the strike. That relates to a more efficient hook set on deeper fish.

Isn't there also a certain amount of stealth here ? Same scenario, shallower water, longer casts, or far away presentations with lighter baits, lighter line. Rip it home after the strike, and the rod, etc. will save you from being careless, or your even partially being asleep at the reel.

Drink X number of beers and call me when your live well is full.

[WAZZZ]

I made up a 16ft rod. Rigged a reel holder base on the front section of a two piece rod. When a fish hits...break down the rod and fight the fish with an 8ft pole. The original lower part of the rod is basically used as an extension.

[whofan]

I have the 7` Bottom bouncer Walleye Series rods. They are great rods. I use 10` light rods as a dead stick with a 1/4 oz bullit weight and crawler harness in the flats. You want a soft action so the Walleye are less likely to feel it.

[JerryA]

I can see the benefits listed for these longer rods but how in the world do you get the fish in the boat. We have a couple of 8 ftrs and that's about as long as I'd want to go in my 18.5 ft boat.

[Ristorapper]

I'm thinking these 12 footers and the Scheels 10 footers are all 2 piece rods. Get the fish close to the boat, break the rod down into two pieces (6 and 5 footers respectively) and land the fish with the short piece of the rod!!

Or back pedal up the bow and land them in the splash well!! But first line your splash well with storage netting material so that the fish won't flip out.

Use a little imagination!!

[Ristorapper]

I'm thinking these 12 footers and the Scheels 10 footers are all 2 piece rods. Get the fish close to the boat, break the rod down into two pieces (6 and 5 footers respectively) and land the fish with the short piece of the rod!!

Or back pedal up the bow and land them in the splash well!! But first line your splash well with storage netting material so that the fish won't flip out.

Use a little imagination!!

[ShadBuster]

Personally I would cut it in half! That is way too much rod! But I think that it would look way cool in some movie! Are you into rod jousting or something else that we are not aware of? Nothing that a good hacksaw will not fix!

Bass on! With a 12 footer us bassin dudes should be able to flip a 10 pounder into the boat! Booyah!

[ShadBuster]

Personally I would cut it in half! That is way too much rod! But I think that it would look way cool in some movie! Are you into rod jousting or something else that we are not aware of? Nothing that a good hacksaw will not fix!

Bass on! With a 12 footer us bassin dudes should be able to flip a 10 pounder into the boat! Booyah!

[ShadBuster]

I would agree with you, but there is some limit to the crazyiness. In your logic a 100 foot rod or better would be best! Have you every used a 12 footer!

[ShadBuster]

I would agree with you, but there is some limit to the crazyiness. In your logic a 100 foot rod or better would be best! Have you every used a 12 footer!

[KlassAct]

No, Not 12 footers. But I've used 10 footer split shot set ups down to 35-40 feet with great success. Often, when traffic builds up on a particular well known spot, the supper stealth approach is the only one that scores . . . much to the shagrin of the on-lookers using moree conventional rigs, and snickering at your longer than long rod.

[KlassAct]

No, Not 12 footers. But I've used 10 footer split shot set ups down to 35-40 feet with great success. Often, when traffic builds up on a particular well known spot, the supper stealth approach is the only one that scores . . . much to the shagrin of the on-lookers using moree conventional rigs, and snickering at your longer than long rod.

[Oahe MrL]

I ran a pair of 14'ers last year. The only time they were any problem was when I was alone. With three people in the boat, I can actually pull 6 lines straight back without the use of boards.

You just can't reel down to the fish. With a little practice you learn to raise the rod tip with about 20' of line out and the fish comes close enough to net. The perceived problems at the boat are small in comparison to the advantages they provide.

[ShadBuster UL]

I don't like my 8 1/2 footers when trying to move them around in the boat. I cannot imagine a 12 footer.

[Ristorapper]

I break down the 10' Scheels rods (two piece) when not in use and sock them up; keep them rigged up in the sock and they are ready to go when needed.

[gb eyes]

so are these rods made for leadcore? and are the five footers there running mates?