bottom bouncers

[walleyeworld]

whats the most affective way to fish these things with a harness? and does colored bouncers work better

thanks

[MN_Moose]

1. do a search on walleye central for bottom bouncing. It's a well covered subject.

2. tie your main line direct to the eye of the bouncer. Clip the harness on the arm. Color of the bouncer does not seem to help or hinder the performance.

3. do a web search of "Bottom Bouncing As I Know It" by Phil Rolfe. He describes his techniques very well.

[BurrND]

The following are typical for me, may or may not be what others would chose.

I use a no stretch line to the bouncer. Typical speed usage is .6 to 1.2 - with .85-.95 ideal.

Lower the bouncer to the bottom, as you pull forward, let out more line to hit bottom. Once you have established consistency "near", but not on the bottom, your depth is set. I do not drag a bouncer on the bottom, or bounce it. For me, it's more of Bottom 'ticker' than 'bouncer'.

Faster than rigging speeds, slower than crank bait speeds.

Quite often leader lengths are shorter than rigging. Often 24-30" is it. I typically use the shortest leader that I can maintain a bite with.

your bouncer should be at @ 45 degree angle. If your flatter, slow down. Steeper, speed up. You can do the same with weight adjustments.

Bouncing is a 'fast' presentation method for me.

If you have an area that is very snaggy, short leader bouncers can get you through some of the stuff.

Live bait is the rule, however, I've experimented with some plastics, and will continue to use more plastics than what is normal for me.

I often fish a bouncer in the rod holder, if you get hit on the dead stick, I typically let the fish settle down prior to picking up the rod. They will set themselves on the dead stick rod.

My preference is slip bouncers, over the traditional bottom bouncer. The only bottom bouncers I have left are the ones I have not used up yet, I'll move exclusively to slip bouncers eventually.

I pour my own, and use a .063 stainless wire. I feel the stiffer wire telegraphs changes in bottom composition better. Also with a stiff wire, and slip bouncer, if I want to stop, spend a period stationary and let the bait swim in an area, I can just lift the slip bouncer, drop it to the bottom, and it stands up on the bottom of the lake like a flag pole. I can also do this if I want to feed line to a finicky biter, similar to riggin.

Hopefully you can gather one or two things to try in my mumbo jumbo.

[Xswab]

I gotta say that that is the BEST description of bottom bouncing presentation I have yet to read/hear. I also utilize slip BB a friend makes for me, with the .040 wire. I totally agree with the heavier wire transmitting botttom composition, as the wire I use is good but not the best, IMO. I might think that making the wire run about 7-8" below the weight would be beneficial also.

Great Post...thanks.

[perchjerker]

.047" wire is even better

;)

[icontact]

I only use the quick change style bouncers on a line slide and use a bead and slipbobber knot (tied with 20lb braid) to vary my snell length. I tie all of my spinner rigs about 24" long and then vary the length by sliding the bobber stop and weight back up the line to whatever lengh I am using for that day.(usually about 36-48 inches). On the end of my line I have a snap swivel to change spinner rigs without retying as well. If you do not have a seperate lindy rig rod, you can switch from bouncing to lindy rigging in about a minute with no cutting or retying at all. (presuming you have lindy rigs pretied as well).

[bob oh]

I hang them on a dead stick rod and stick them in a rod holder on the drift side of the boat.

[shorelander22]

I gotta say that that is the BEST description of bottom bouncing presentation I have yet to read/hear. I also utilize slip BB a friend makes for me, with the .040 wire. I totally agree with the heavier wire transmitting botttom composition, as the wire I use is good but not the best, IMO. I might think that making the wire run about 7-8" below the weight would be beneficial also.

Great Post...thanks.

Does your friend make bb with heavier wire for other people and sell them? Would like reply thank you

[rebs]

could anyone post a picture of a slip bouncer ? is it just a straight wire with a loop in the top instead of the L shape ?

[Xswab]

Yes, there are some that are just straight wire weight w/loop. Then the "L" type can also be rigged to slip by using split rings and sinker slides together, hooked to the BB loop(s). The sea striker sliders(Cabelas) are what my friend uses on the BBs he makes for me.
You may want to check w/Perchjerker.......am sure he has a proven method as well.

[budphilly1]

http://www.justfishontario.net/bottom_bouncing_a_to_z.htm is an article that I wrote many years ago. It's probably the most detailed writing I have seen on the subject. But also realize that times change, so does equipment, but I still think this holds true today---------especially on the Canadian Shield. I have used it on the Woods, Lac Seul, Upper Pepperbell (still not telling), Eagle, Lake St. Joseph, and Rainy-------all with great success.
Best,
Phil

[MPW]

I rig my BB as a slip bouncer by using two snap swivels and a bead beteewn them (line passes thru one swivel then the bead and tries to the other swivel) I use mono(12-14#) for main line and will almost always dead stick the rod in a rod holder. I use the straight type bottom bouncher clipped to the sliding swivel. I have used all the other mentioned methods of attaching the BB, the quick release or plastic sliders seem to break too easy or must be retied to change the size of the weight. The swivels do a good of a job for quick changing the weight & leader. The safety pin type seem to get hung up more often than the slider type.:horsepoop: