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Todd_NE
12-27-2004, 01:31 PM
I had the opportunity to shoot a Super Black Eagle II ($1175) in black with a 24" barrel and a 26" Montefeltro ($875) this past weekend for clays. I had just bought a Monte and my brother the SBE II.

Both guns were new and came with a very nice grey plastic case that held the guns in "breakdown" form. Each comes with 5 chokes, choke wrench, books, gun oil and plug.

Neither of the guns had cosmoline or anything that was tough to take off. I simply cleaned each with Hoppe's and put a few drops on the benelli oil as directed in the receiver.

The Montefeltro was very easy to put together and it has a small aluminium plug that pops right out. Fit and finish was fine and the IC choke was installed and properly tightened out of the box. The walnut wood on my gun was very dark, not beautiful but not bad.

The SBE II plug requires a metal cap over the magazine to be removed, I didn't do it. It's also a lot tougher for me to put together. Someone that owns a SBE helped put it together. You have to have the bolt on the receiver and the barrel and forestock all slide on together over the bolt. Hard to describe. The SBE and SBE II are unique to me in that the barrel is also the top half of the receiver believe it or not. Again the IC choke was installed and we left it.

We headed out with some 1 oz Remington dove and quail loads. We shot 6 boxes total.

Pluses
1. Neither gun malfunctioned or jammed even once though light loads are supposed to give the Benelli's a little problem at first. These went through fine

2. Both have a fine feel in the hand and good balance. I liked the SBE II balance and my brother the Monte, we should have switched.

3. Though both are recoil operated we really didn't feel much recoil to the shoulder

4. Both safety's had a nice crisp release.

5. Guns both stayed good on follow up shots, even the 24" SBE II. There was no hop on either

6. Both guns were deadly on the clay :)

7. The feel of both guns is good. I like the narrowness of the monte but the synthetic stock on the SBE II was very "sticky" almost. Be great for a blind or turkey hunting. The SBE II also was ready for a sling

8. The ergonomic butt plate on the SBE II is really nice and the new bigger trigger guard would be nice for shooting with heavy gloves.

Neg's
1. I could not tell any difference in recoil with the SBE II even though it has the new recoil reduction system. Might/should come into play more with heavier loads

2. They definitely have different dimensions. The SBE II fit my eyeline perfectly, I'll have to shim the Monte's buttstock down a little. I see too much barrel. Make sure they fit you.

3. Loading, I still don't like have to flick the side switch to have shells come out of the magazine. Duck and goose hunters like this for removing a chambered shell only.

Either gun is a nice weapon. I'd stick with the Monte if you like a more traditional upland gun but get the SBE II if you want something a little more versatile for upland, waterfowl, turkey and deer.

Todd
Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed, the glory - Memorial Stadium

Matt D
12-28-2004, 02:54 PM
Todd, Great review. Thanks for taking the time to report on those two guns. Going to be buying either a Beretta 391 Optima or the Benelli 90 Monte. Was wondering what your thoughts and anyone else's were on comparing these two guns? Appreciate any and all thoughts on them.

Matt D

nascar
12-29-2004, 08:46 AM
It is all what you prefer. You more than likely have friends that own these guns. Go out and shoot them and see which one you like. Myself, I love my Benelli. The inertia operated system is fool proof. It's not the type of gun that needs to be cleaned after each use. Little maintenance required, easy to take apart, and shoots any load.

Todd_NE
12-29-2004, 12:22 PM
On the benelli forum they talk about a new Monte coming out in 05, not sure when. Not sure how fast you are going to buy.

I thought about a Beretta but I know guys that have had there problems with those too. I clean my guns religously, have them into the smith when needed but one jam is too much for me and an over under has too few shells for me :) My Browning Gold treated me good for about 10,000 shells then started having issues. Some say that's bad, others say I got my money's worth. It's all opinion.

I think you'ld have good luck with both and they have to fit you. But... I'm becoming more of a benelli guy the older I get and the more of them I've shot and guys I've talked to that own them.

There is no fool-proof gun, but for an auto loader they seem to be superior unless you like a gas-operated system.

Todd
Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed, the glory - Memorial Stadium

Matt D
12-30-2004, 05:30 AM
Thanks guys. I agree it really comes down to fit but just wanted to see if there was anything I was missing on either of these guns.

BTW Todd. Didn't mean to hijack your post. Probably should have started another thread. Sorry.

Matt D

Todd_NE
12-30-2004, 08:13 AM
Don't know why you'ld be hijacking. Fire away. I went through all this when my Browning jammed on the first pheasant this year - gooodddbyeeeee

I'd like to hold a new Browning Fusion, haven't got the chance yet.

Go into a good local gunstore or gunsmith/ffl guy and talk to them. They'll tell you what they repair the most, what guys tell them, etc. I think (know) you are going to pretty much hear about Benelli.

Supposedly the SBE will be in the $850-950 range soon as the SBE II get ramped up. That would be a heckuva gun for the money if you ever need 3.5". Personally I'd rather have a couple of "light" upland guns in various gauges and a 10 browning. But everybody is different. I don't really collect guns, I only have 4 shotguns but I use them all and sell or trade when I get my next one. Probably be smart to hang on to them but I don't have O/U's or the like.

I would like a 28 or 16 gauge O/U :)

Todd
Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed, the glory - Memorial Stadium

Matt D
12-30-2004, 10:43 AM
I already have a 3.5 that's why I am looking at the ones I am. Looking for a light upland gun that will only be used for pheasants and maybe some rabbits as I have other shotguns for everything else. The Monte comes in at about the same weight as an O/U so that is a draw. Have had O/U's in the past and liked them but like having that extra shell(s) more! Going to go look at these this weekend and will probably buy one so I can use it yet this year on something other then clay!

Thanks again for the help.

Todd_NE
12-30-2004, 02:16 PM
To be honest, I'd kinda like to try a Monte with a 24" barrel if I get the chance. That might be sweet on an upland only gun!

Supposedly the new Monte's will have the Crio barrel.

Todd
Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed, the glory - Memorial Stadium