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wheels
02-26-2008, 10:28 AM
I have been working with my dog to sit to a whistle and would like to be able to do it from a distance. He knows the command and if close, say within a 10 foot diameter area, when the whistle blows he will sit. Once we get some distance, he will start toward me prior to sitting. He will eventually sit, but not until he runs toward me first. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this?


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

wheels
02-26-2008, 10:28 AM
I have been working with my dog to sit to a whistle and would like to be able to do it from a distance. He knows the command and if close, say within a 10 foot diameter area, when the whistle blows he will sit. Once we get some distance, he will start toward me prior to sitting. He will eventually sit, but not until he runs toward me first. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this?


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

JJ Scully
02-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Have you tried this training with him tied off so he cant run towards you?

JJ Scully
02-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Have you tried this training with him tied off so he cant run towards you?

wheels
02-26-2008, 12:52 PM
I tried to. That worked a few times, but now he knows what's coming. As soon as I start to walk away he'll sit.

"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

wheels
02-26-2008, 12:52 PM
I tried to. That worked a few times, but now he knows what's coming. As soon as I start to walk away he'll sit.

"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 09:23 AM
OK I need a little more info. What kind of dog and how old is it? And does he obey this whistle command all of the time when you are close to him?

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 09:23 AM
OK I need a little more info. What kind of dog and how old is it? And does he obey this whistle command all of the time when you are close to him?

wheels
02-27-2008, 09:29 AM
German Drahthaar - 1 year 11 months. Yes, he obeys a whistle command, a verbal command, or a hand signal for sit every time as long as he's close.


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

wheels
02-27-2008, 09:29 AM
German Drahthaar - 1 year 11 months. Yes, he obeys a whistle command, a verbal command, or a hand signal for sit every time as long as he's close.


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 10:31 AM
With my shorthair it really took a long time and I just kept working further and further away from him and not only when in the yard for training but all the time and without warning. My problem was that he would do perfect in the yard, but in the field with so much going on he forgot all about the commands and just wanted to hunt. There were days that I had to drag him back to the truck when it was time to go home.

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 10:31 AM
With my shorthair it really took a long time and I just kept working further and further away from him and not only when in the yard for training but all the time and without warning. My problem was that he would do perfect in the yard, but in the field with so much going on he forgot all about the commands and just wanted to hunt. There were days that I had to drag him back to the truck when it was time to go home.

wheels
02-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Thanks, I'll keep working on it then. And yes, obedience at home in the yard can be greatly different than in the field. Prey drive is a powerful thing!


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

wheels
02-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Thanks, I'll keep working on it then. And yes, obedience at home in the yard can be greatly different than in the field. Prey drive is a powerful thing!


"Friends don't let friends fish for trout!"

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes the more I talk about it the more I miss those days. My shorthair is about to turn 12 and he has good days and bad days. Not much hunt left in him. He does still like to play fetch most days but he used to run to pick up the toys now its more of a fast walk.

JJ Scully
02-27-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes the more I talk about it the more I miss those days. My shorthair is about to turn 12 and he has good days and bad days. Not much hunt left in him. He does still like to play fetch most days but he used to run to pick up the toys now its more of a fast walk.

baydogman
02-28-2008, 04:57 PM
I have trained three chessies, and no i never needed a 2x4. they have all taken to this differenty. This is something that takes time. its hard for soemone to tell you what you should do, it is something that you will have to figure out what works for this dog. some dogs take 9 months and others 2 years to be field ready. be patient, consistant, and try different drills. if the gog retrtieves, after he sits, reward him with a bumper or even better a live bird. once the dog learns a bird follows the sit, they will catch on quicly. i use the baseball drill and do not throw the bumper until after they sit. my 2 pennies.

baydogman
02-28-2008, 04:57 PM
I have trained three chessies, and no i never needed a 2x4. they have all taken to this differenty. This is something that takes time. its hard for soemone to tell you what you should do, it is something that you will have to figure out what works for this dog. some dogs take 9 months and others 2 years to be field ready. be patient, consistant, and try different drills. if the gog retrtieves, after he sits, reward him with a bumper or even better a live bird. once the dog learns a bird follows the sit, they will catch on quicly. i use the baseball drill and do not throw the bumper until after they sit. my 2 pennies.

Rick-Wy.
03-12-2008, 09:34 PM
Give the command and reinforce. It's not a request but a demand. Do not accept anything else. Everytime you do, you just reinforce the problem.

Just keep working past that 10 foot circle that you have command of. I'd think in time if you can get behavior you want close you should be able to expand that distance. Getting them to do it right and repeat, repeat, repeat....

rj

Rick-Wy.
03-12-2008, 09:39 PM
As said by others, a treat for doing it right can really help. A few cut up Oscar Meyers really helped with Zach. Hard to believe he is going to be 9 in May.
rj

Tim_Kelly
07-27-2008, 08:51 AM
If the dog sits after running towards you a few paces, he obviously understands what it required but is probably over excited. Once he is sat walk calmly up to him, without looking at him or making any communication of and sort. Calmly and gently pick the dog up by the scruffand move him back to the spot he was on when you blew the whistle. Blow the whistle again and walk away, still without any further fuss or anger. Walk a few yards, turn round and recall the dog. When it returns to you make a big fuss of it.

Once the dog has the sit and stay command it should be possible to get him to do it at any range as long as you build it up slowly and gently, and never allow the dog to get away with a few paces uncorrected.

Dog training can be as exacting as you want it to be and a real time eater, but it's much better to start a young dog off with it being far more highly trained and automatic than you need in the field as they will get away with more in the field which you won't easily be able to correct and by the time they're 4 or 5 they think they know it all and will try it on big time!

stinkycat
07-27-2008, 07:35 PM
This worked for me.

My labs have always had a chain "choke" collar when training. I would walk my dog on leash at heal and every 10-15 steps I would blow hard on my whistle and at the same time yank back hard on the leash and say sit. After less than a week my dog would stop any where and sit and look at me when I blew on the whistle. It did not matter if he was 10' or 100' from me. I did this twice a day for 5-7 days.
I did reinforce the training for quit some time but it was very easy to implement into his training sessions.

Hope this helps!

PS My dog is a stubborn un-neutered male and it worked.

Ziert
08-11-2008, 08:12 PM
To me, the whistle is for getting their attention only.. . followed by a voice or hand signal.