Minnesota license needed on portable ice house?????

[MrEyes]

Can someone explain to me why in Minnesota you need a license for a portable ice house. I can see if you have an ice house that stays out on the water and the DNR wants to know who's shack it is. But when you bring your Frabil, Otter...etc, for a day of fishing and then pack it up what gives..??? Is this just another way Minnesota can hit you up for some $$$$. I asked the DNR officer who checked our licenses, what the reason was for having a license for a portable. He said "I don't know". If I fish out on the lake sitting on a bucket no big deal, but if I have my Frabil out on the lake I need to pay extra money for the portable ice fishing house.

Mark

[Fish For Fun]

It's BS and just another way for MN to get more money out of a wonderful sport. Whoever thought this one up should have their head examined, same thing with having to have your name and address on a portable, I'm sitting in it stupid can't you ask me or look on my license?

What's the difference if I pull out just a sled or I pull out my portable Flip over and never flip it up or just flip it half way? Could be some real issues with that.

I would like to have them give me a ticket for my Flip over shack if it was not flipped over, I think you might be able to fight that one, but as usual a day in court and lost wages would cost more than the fine!

[went522]

"same thing with having to have your name and address on a portable,"

You don't NEED your name and address on your portable. What you need...a shelter liscense and one of the following, MNDNR#, DL#, or name and address in 2" letters. I use the MNDNR#.

What's the big deal? It's not like the shelter tags are expensive or hard to get. Once a year, buying a shelter tag so one can fish in a house. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me?? If one would you rather fish on a bucket the entire season, fine, have at it to save a few dollars.

"I would like to have them give me a ticket for my Flip over shack if it was not flipped over, I think you might be able to fight that one,"

You don't need a liscense on it in that case or it doesn't need to be visible, it's not illegal and not viewed as a shelter.

I've never understanded the complainers on this subject, they'll spend big bucks on all the equipment from shelters, heaters, vexlars, cameras, augers, etc...But will complain about the cheap little paper tag they need to save a headache from the CO?? For the cost of a couple scoops of minnows one's shelter is covered for the year. Yep, now there's a big expense??

BIRDDOG

[slab slayer]

Yeah, it's a pretty dumb rule. Sure enough though last year got ticketed for it. Was out for a night of crappie fishing, had the license in the portable.

The explanation I got was if we decided to leave the house out on the lake for the night they would know who's it was. If somebody plans on leaving their portable out for the night, I wouldn't expect it to be there for too long. Just a thought.

[MrEyes]

Went

I don't have a problem paying for a license that someone can explain or give me a good reason for having. But if the DNR person has no reason and even say's to me "I don't know why you need one for a portable" something smells fishy. Why don't they just throw another tax on driving a car out on the lake? I would be more worried about someone leaving their car/truck out on the lake before someone left their portable. It sounds like just another way to tax someone. That's my 2 cents.

Mark

[Dacotah Eye]

Why don't
>they just throw another tax on driving a car out on the lake?
>I would be more worried about someone leaving their car/truck
>out on the lake before someone left their portable. It sounds
>like just another way to tax someone. That's my 2 cents.
>
>Mark


Don't give em any new and fresh ideas. They might have missed this one. :secret: :cheers:

[Small Fish On]

Becuase the state is tax happy love charing a fee (and increasing it) ever chance they get.

[walleyeduran]

I am glad I don't buy my minnows at the same place Birddog does. He must be paying around $15 for a scoop of minnows, (non-resident ice house licence is around $30 and when you end up using it for one or two nights, it is a stupid expense).

Now I know why Birddog doesn't try to catch too many fish, the minnows are too expensive.

I wouldn't try the approach of keeping your flip over shack up to save on a CO fine, I have watched CO's give citations for fishing in a make shift card board wind break on Winny.

No offence Birddog!!!

[dirty underpants]

I'm with Birddog.

If you are a non-resident, and you are planning a 1 or 2 night trip, your cost per night is so outrageous, a $20 shanty permit is nothing. Figure gas (from another state), license, food and lodging.

There is no reason for a CO to know the reason behind a law. There are several laws that several in law enforcement have no clue as to their origin. Big deal. They aren't there as law educators. They are there to enforce the law. By the way, they do so with everyone questioning every move they make, several times a day. Sounds very motivating don't it?!?

Get the permit, or not. If not, pay the fine. Cut and dry to me. If you don't like it, contact your legislators. They're the ones who made the law, they are the ones who can change it.

[JLDII]

I know 2 guys who got ticketed in their truck, on the ice, watching their tip ups, for not having a shelter license! Its the law. If you want to sit in your car or truck while fishing on the ice, you have to have a shelter tag for that vehicle.

Simple solution....carry your tag with you where ever you icefish in this state. I have one on my permanent house, and one I take with me in my truck or my portable.

[Box]

Jack, I just sent an email to DNR about whether you need a tag while sitting and fishing from truck. The answer was totally non-specific. I don't know whether it was typo, or what he means, but here is his answer, heh!

"You can sit in your truck and watch your tipups, with having a shelter tag."

Did he mistakenly leave out the word "withOUT" ?.?. Because the way it is written makes no real sense (I.e. then why not say "You DO need a shelter tag to sit in your truck and watch tipups."). But, I guess there is what we are faced with, unlcear rules. The regs say NOTHING about needing a tag for a vehicle, but the CO can pretty give out any tickets they like. I am not against them giving out tickets, but for cripes sake, they should be very clear about what the law is.

I sent email to clarify it, but I find this one issue just stupid, that you need tag for a truck, that is already licensed. Oh well, I do have two tags for my perm and portable shacks.

-Box

[WinnebagoViking]

Urban Legend. If you're in a licensed vehicle, you do not need a shelter tag.

[JLDII]

Don't know what to say. Those guys were told that they were using their truck as a shelter and that is why they got the ticket.

[NAV165]

I'm not a supporter of the requirement but it's the law so I will abide by it. To me it's not much different than registration for your boat. I live in Wisconsin and they don't require any registration but I think it's just a matter of time and they will. And since I like to ice fish I'll pay it, it sure beats freezing!

[Box]

Me too, but the problem is nobody really seems to know what the requirement is, truly. Even an answer from the DNR themselves about the truck issue came back sketchy at best. Thats the problem, nobdoy wants to break the law, but some of us might be simply because the DNR (who I am a supporter of) simply can't get their regs to 'splain it so we can understand it. I hope a DNR person finds this and sees how much confusion there is.

-Box

[risor39]

That confusion generates alot of cash.Why would they want to clarify the rules.They would just have to make up more to get the money they just lost by clarifying the rules.Its all about the money.Aint it wonderful.LOL

[Duffman]

Aren't all icefishing houses portable? :confused:

[Fishingdog]

You guys who think it is justified have got to be kidding me!! How moronic is it? This is not different then a glorified pail that has a cover over it in many cases. Same old liberal legislation known for the state of Minnesota. This is why I left the state. Love the state, like most of the people but the politics are just idiotic.

[HAIRY POUT]

Here is a link to an article that was in Outdoor News from Feb 7th it explans the rules pretty good.
http://www.outdoornews.com/articles/2007/02/08/news/news4.txt
Terry

[walleyehunterCO unlogged]

>Here is a link to an article that was in Outdoor News from
>Feb 7th it explans the rules pretty good.
>http://www.outdoornews.com/articles/2007/02/08/news/news4.txt
>Terry
So the guy that got a ticket in his truck should NOT have gottin one. Hope he fought it.

[NDr]

In ND, we worked with our G&F to get rid of it. AND THEY DID!!!! When they looked at the actual cost of the license, the volume, and the work involved it didn't make financial sense. Use to go to Minnesota to fish, but now they have way too many rules. We have better fishing here in ND anyway!!!

[jame6299]

is that why you were fishing in MN? was the fishing in ND too good?:banging:

[just_one_more]

I would have a portable without a roof or a roof and two sides that are opposite of each other. LOL

[went522]

"I don't have a problem paying for a license that someone can explain or give me a good reason for having."

One good reason is all you ask...that's an easy one...to save a fine from the CO, which is much more than the cost of a shelter tag.:confused:

Another reason may be to acquire the funds needed to pay the CO's patroling our waters.

BIRDDOG

[stamper]

Should I pay $30.00 for a out of state portable license or go to another state. Where I will spend $ 500.00 on motels, food, bait and gas, etc. See you in Wis.- North or South Dakota.