1850 Reata / 175 PRO XS

[BW]

Just wondering if anyone is running this combo yet? Curious if the performance is better than other combos as one would expect?? Heck, with the changes on the new Rangers, maybe they'll get crazy and rate them for 200's!!!!! That would be sweeeet!

[Spock]

It should be a very sweet package, I have one on order but it wont arrive till about another 12 days.

[BW]

Let us know how that rig runs!! I have an 1850 with a 150 etec and couldn't justify $1400 more for a 175 etec to gain a couple mph. The PRO XS may gain quite a bit more than the standard 175's, so I am very interested to see the results. Thanks, Bill

[cc-rider]

I have an 1850 with a 175 ETEC. I did A LOT of research on engines mated with this hull before buying. The hottest set-up with this rig were the Yamaha HPDI 175. I've read reports of 54-56 MPH with this motor on the 1850 and 3 blade props. Of course, you can't get this engine anymore, but from what I read, it was the best for top speed. Every single other motor out there pushes it to 51 at best and I think that is going downstream in a river. Just for the record, mine does around 47-48 MPH with a 17p Cyclone 4 blade prop....fastest I've ever been is 50.1 MPH according to my GPS.

It will be interesting to see if the 175 ProXS is the new big dog on the 1850! I look forward to the reports...

[Buzz]

cc-rider,

I'm running a 150 Etec with a 19p Cyclone and at best am getting 5300rpms out of it. Lately less than that. I know your running a 175 but what kind of rpms are you getting with the 17p?

Thanks,

Buzz

[cc-rider]

I'm getting 5600 rpm with a light load which is spot on to recommended rpm. I also had a 19p Cyclone to start with and was only getting 5200 rpm. I then went to an 18p Cyclone and got 5400 rpm, and finally now a 17p Cyclone which gets me to 5600 rpm. Interesting thing is that top speed was identical for all 3 props. They all ran 48ish MPH. Holeshot is much better with the 17p.

I finally settled on the 17p because I don't really care about the potential of 2 MPH on the top end....of which the higher pitched prop never delivered anyway.

A learning lesson here for me is that ETEC's just don't want to pull the rpm on the top end. They just aren't top speed monsters. In fact, I am sort of upset that I paid the extra $ for the 175 over the 150. Your 150 pulls as much rpm as my 175 therefore the top speeds will be identical. They are the same displacement so I'm sure that the holeshot would be same as well. BRP needs a little more work on distinquishing these 2 engines and until then, nobody should pay them a dime more for a 175 over a 150. Maybe they have more torque and HP over the whole power band but I have no confirmation of that and have never seen a dyno chart to confirm.

On the upside....the torque is simply second to none with these engines. We talk about top speed so much because it is something we can quantify, but there really isn't a way to measure holeshot that well. And its really accleration and holeshot that give you the seat of the pants performance feeling vs. going 48 or 50 MPH. The only thing that can tell the difference between 48 and 50 is the little readout on your GPS

[Buzz]

cc-rider,

Thanks for the info. When I bought my Ranger the dealer suggested the 150 over the 175 because he didn't think the performance difference was enough to justify the cost. I was skeptical at first but now see he was right.

I'll try to find a 17p Cyclone that I can try. Although it's not bad, I would like a little better hole shot. I did try an 18p Cyclone last year and surprisingly lost speed and rpms. I can understand losing speed, but not rpms. I was told that the Cyclones were quite inconsistent which may explain the losses I saw.

Thanks again for the information,

Buzz

[wishnfishn]

Buzz, the one thing to consider is how the boat will be used and loaded. If a guy plans on doing alot of tubing and water skiing or cruising and or fishing with 4+ people in the boat plus gear then the 175hp does have it's advantages. It will carry the extra weight of gear, fisherman, full livewells, kicker motors alot better with less performance loss. I know a guy who had a 150hp Opti on the Reatta and was very happy when he first got it but after adding a kicker, two suspension seats and inviting a 3rd friend along fishing he found he had to reprop and was only able to get 43/44mph consistently. He traded up to a 175hp the next spring and immediately jumped up to 49mph with the same load. Both engines were Mercs so that is one thing to consider but the 175hp just seems to be able to carry extra weight without as much of a performance loss.

[Mark Klossner]

Wishnfishin is correct -- you have to consider a fully-loaded boat when chosing an engine. The 175 Pro XS, has significantly more torque than a 150 or even 175 stock OptiMax -- and it also has more HP. That extra torque will help to move a heavily-loaded boat faster - especially in holeshot and at mid-range.

[Unregistered]

Looks like the rating for the 1750 Reata did get the bump in H.P. I have had my eye on this boat since it came out but was real hesitant to put a 115 on it. I have a Lund Angler 1700 SS with a 115 on it and it does real well as this boat weighs in at about 1900 lbs fully loaded. I was really interested in when the 1850 came out a couple years back but it is just too big and more $$$$$ than I wanted to spend. Now that the 1750 has a decent HP rating I will have to look real hard at this one. Does anyone have any experience with the 1750 Reata they would care to share, such as cost and performance? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[cc-rider]

I'll tell you what....if I were a 2008 or earlier 1750 Reata owner I would be one peeved SOB. Ranger just devalued those boats something fierce by allowing the 150. In fact this may affect the value of the 1850 Reata a bit as well. That being said, that 1750 with a 150 will be a sweet rig.

If they come out with a 200HP rating for the 1850 Reata or the new 1850 RS (whatever that is) I am going to be kind of upset.

[BW]

I just got an 08' 1850 this year and love everything about the boat. I always thought the 1750 was way underpowered due to no one making a 130. I use to have a 617 with a 135 and that was a decent setup, but the Rangers are a bit heavier. Now that you can get a 150 on these 17 footers, they will be awesome, but far too close in price to the 1850 in my opinion. My dealer just told me that a 1750 vs. and 1850 both rigged with 150's will only be about $2000 apart. For that kind of money, you are getting a lot more boat in the 1850. I was second guessing my decision to only put the 150 etec on my boat vs. the 175, but it was $1400 more for about 2mph. I stopped second guessing today when I ran a 19P Viper. I was between 5400-5500 rpm's and could consistently run 48.5mph by myself. I even hit 49.2 going downhill with a tail wind once. The 150 is a strong motor in my opinion and I am happy I went with that. I was also happy that the 150 is now made in the blue color and added the stars and stripes decals. It is one of the few Reatas, I think, that doesn't have the white motor. I kind of like to be different I guess!!!!! Good luck with your decision. You will not be dissappointed either way.

I will try to add a few pictures!!

[cc-rider]

Nice rig BW! I have the same rig with a 175 ETEC and I think you made the right choice ;)

[phowler]

Here's mine, I would have liked the stars & stripes but it just wouldn't have matched the boat color. It looks real nice on that color scheme though.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/kjkash/Rangerpics3-20-08004.jpg

[BW]

Nice rig phowler! I had a hard time picking the right color. The white Evinrudes do go with the Reatas well due to the white top. I thought the stars and stripes went with the red boat fairly well. I didn't realize until after I ordered that you could get the white motor with stars and stripes added. That would look cool too. Although it is about $160 for the decals for both sides, I was lucky enough to get it thrown in on the deal!!!

[cc-rider]

Here is my rig. I ordered the custom colors....cost me some extra dough but made my wife happy. The white etec's do look good with the Reata. And I think I'm the only one on the planet that prefers the standard stickers on the ETEC vs. the stars and stripes.

http://www.walleyecentral.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4366

[phowler]

This is my first boat that isn't a jon boat, ( I'm a waterfowler first ) so admittedly I don't have much to compare to, but myself and my family are loving this rig so far. I haven't been able to fish out of it yet due to work and high water but I've got 4 weeks vacation scheduled during October & November soley for the purpose of pursuing walleyes & waterfowl.

Nice rigs guys!

[BW]

cc-rider,
That is pretty cool with the custom colors. You definitely have a nice and original looking boat! My wife kind of complained about not have the "sparklies" on the inside of the boat like our last two Rangers, but I told here she could give me and exta $1200 and I would have it painted any way she liked!!!! As you can see, she declined. I still think it looks pretty cool and think it is a little easier to keep clean on the inside. The white doesn't show as much as the dark flake colors use to. Enjoy!!!!
I think the three of us have our own Reata/etec club. I have been reading posts from both of you and learning a lot about the boat during my own ordering process. Thanks, Bill

[SD Walleye]

Has anyone tried a hydrofoil stabilizer to help with better hole shot on the 1850 Reata?
I'm looking at putting on a SE 300. Will this help?

Set-up
2008
1850VS Reata
150 Yamaha
19 P prop
T8 Kicker
Live well Full
Fuel Full
Four adults
Motor mounted all the way up

[cc-rider]

Never heard of anyone doing it. I see you have a 150 Yam on yours and I know that some have gone to a 17p Mercury Revolution 4 prop and gotten much better results in terms of holeshot. Top speed goes down to around 46 which isn't that bad.

I know that those motors can struggle a bit out of the hole...a hydrofoil might help, but you'll probably loose top end as well. Might want to try a prop.

[Unregistered]

I was under the impression you couldn't do custom colors on the reata/angler series.... is it possible to have the inside and/or bottom custom as well?

[cc-rider]

No bottom color options....or deck. But the stripes can be anything you want...

[BW]

SD walleye,
You'll have to do something with the prop and/or motor position. This is the reason I did not get the four stroke. I test drove one and the hole shot was lacking. My boat with the etec is up and gone very quickly. Basically the difference between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. Many have the same issues. I think the hydrofoil does help though, but the prop may be a solution too. You are running pretty heavy.

[SD Walleye]

Added the SE 300 hydrofoil stabilizer this weekend. Helped greatly on hole shot, top speed was 46 mph on gps. Wife, three kids, cooler, and rear live well full. Liked my old Lund Tyee, but love this new Ranger.

Set-up
2008
1850VS Reata
150 Yamaha
19 P prop
T8 Kicker
Fuel Full
Motor mounted all the way up

[JasonG]

Spock, have you taken delivery yet? I have been dying to hear the results of the 175 Pro XS on your rig!

[wishnfishn]

You can the the Reattas in any color you want it just costs extra. When I bought mine my dealer quoted me an extra $1200 for custom hull colors.

[guest]

Took the reata for its first run today with the pro xs and was very pleased with the results.

Saltwater
3 batteries
2 Adults 2 children
1/2 tank fuel
Front baitwell full (forgot to empty it)
Temp 20 degrees celcius
21 Tempest
5500 rpm
53 mph GPS (1 hour on motor)
.
Very plesed with the first run, although I didnt push it as the motor is still running in, but one quick squirt gave a nice top end. Jumped straight out of the hole and on to the plane. When the motor is run in, I will move the 2 x trolling batteries to the back compartment and raise the motor which will no doubt increase top end.

Conditions were not the best on the water either with a nice chop caused by a 25-30 knot cross breeze.

Spock

[cc-rider]

That's the hot set-up on that boat! 53 out of the box is pretty nice. at least 3-5 MPH faster than anything else on it.

Nice rig.

[JasonG]

Spock, that sounds great. Congrats on your purchase. I plan on ordering the 1860 Angler with the same motor. Basically the same boat as far as performance goes.

[REG]

Jason - I've actually heard that the 1860 is a bit faster due to the consoles and driver being a little more aft than the 1850. Helps the nose get up a little higher - makes the boat balance a little better. (We're not talking about much here, but most seem pretty concerned about that last mph)

I couldn't be happier with how my 1860 runs at any speed.

[Ryno29]

That's the hot set-up on that boat! 53 out of the box is pretty nice. at least 3-5 MPH faster than anything else on it.

Nice rig.

It's not 3 - 5 MPH faster than mine with a 175 HPDI.

[JasonG]

REG, what do you have for a motor 150 or 175? Thanks for the info.

[REG]

Jason

I've got a 175 Opti (plain, not XS) - no kicker - 21P Hi-five prop. It's the prop that Ranger sent with the boat. In fact, I've made no changes to the original set up - the engine is only one hole up from being all the way down.

I went a year without a gps speed reading, but a few weeks ago I had a perfect day and was out by myself so I brought out the gps. I was able to hit and maintain 50.2 gps which is fine for me.

There are a ton of great boats available now but you will love the 1860.

[JasonG]

REG, I am by no means a speed demon and that is more than than fast enough for me. However, I have contemplated spending the extra $400 (from what I have been quoted) and getting the Pro XS. I have researched boats for 4 years and my wife likes the 1860 Angler the best. We test drove the Angler with a 150 and she was sold. I guess she has twisted my arm! :) I promised her she will like the 175 even more and she gave me the green light. :):)

[Lodiman]

I am surprised that nobody is responding to this. The 1850/60 175xs combo has been available for about a year now. There has to be a bunch out there. Nobody wants to speak up?
Lodiman

[REG]

I ordered mine in the spring of 07 before the xs was available. I ran my last boat for 18 years and I anticipate running the 1860 at least that long. For an extra $400, I would have gone for it. Heck - I paid alot more than that in difference between the 150 and the 175. Is the 150 enough? Sure is.

I'm no expert, but I've read thousands of threads and I can't remember any where the poster was complaining that he bought too many horses.

[Wisconsin Wade]

Jason G. Only $400 more for a 175 Pro-XS!?!, I would certainly go for that in a heart beat. I have an '07 1860 Angler that was bought off the dealers floor(great price that is why I didn't feel the need to order one) with the 150 Optimax and 9.9 pro-kicker and have been very pleased with its' performance. http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/album.php?albumid=41&pictureid=376 . Full tournament load and full livewell I range between 46-48 mph that is with a 19P Tempest Plus. I haven't changed anything from the original set-up.
If I were to order an 1860 Angler, it would be the Red/Black and White color scheme on a tandem trailer with a 175 Pro-XS and 9.9 pro-Kicker. That would be one hot little rig! LOL

[cc-rider]

It's not 3 - 5 MPH faster than mine with a 175 HPDI.

Your right....I have yet to read about any set-up on this rig that pushes it faster than the yami HPDI's. I'm a big yami guy and would have gotten that motor if they still offered it. That being said, I love my ETEC.

[JasonG]

Wisconsin Wade, I believe my order will include color option (5) with a 175 Pro-XS and 9.9 Pro-Kicker. Yes, two different dealers have quoted me around $400 extra for the XS. I didn't think a tandem axle trailer was an option on this rig? I guess I don't feel the need for it though with the beefy trailer that they put with the rig. I will mainly fish Lake Winnebago and Lake Michigan but hope to add Green Bay to the list as well.

[Wisconsin Wade]

Jason G. If I remember correctly I was quoted $1200 x-tra for the tandem trailer....I have seen a few of them around, not many. IMHO boats look "cooler" with a tandem trailer! LOL!

[Guest]

Ran the reata/pro xs combo over the last two days in a tournament. My self and partner who are both over 200lb, tournie load, with both front baitwell and rear livewell full, 3/4 tank of fuel boat maxed out at 50mph (GPS) on both days.

Spock

[JasonG]

Thanks for posting. Any recommendations before I order mine? Did you go with Lowrance or Humm.?

Jason

[BoHunk]

Have 12 hrs on engine, mtg in the middle hole; puts it 1 1/4" above the top of the transom.
Ran w/ full gas tank, one adult, light load. 21P Tempest prop WOT 5460 RPM 54.6 MPH/GPS.
This boat really performs nice; hole shot, top end, high speed turns/ no problems.