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coman61
09-30-2008, 01:23 PM
Lund guru's
I was looking at a used Lund 1800 Fisherman, 98 model and the guy that had it, is a Lund dealer said it would not be a good Erie boat and it could not take the abuse of an Erie pounding.:badidea: It was the model with the 3 liter I\O.
I thought all Lunds were big water boats. Whats the scoop here? Are the hulls that much differant between models?:huh::help:

bluegill 1
09-30-2008, 04:56 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by the "Erie pounding". Any lake can kick up with some waves and if you think anything of your vessel(regardless of brand), you'll slow down, otherwise yes, it'is possible to get the crap beat out of you, your passengers and your boat.
If you demand the best in performance then yes there probably are better choices for Lake Erie. We're recreational fisherman and go out in a 1700 Fisherman and have never had any issues, then again we go slow when it's a bit choppy, and stay home when shes a rolling.
If you spend anytime on the Lake you'll see anything and everything out there.
Try to match the boat with your style of fishing.
Good luck

Oh by the way, the 1800 should be just fine.

Hombre Robusto
09-30-2008, 05:12 PM
I've been fishing out of an 18' Lund on Lake Erie for the past three seasons. I averaged 70 trips per year. A buddy of mine has a 17' Lund Fisherman, and fishes Erie just about as much as I do. Another buddy of ours hits it just as much out of his Lund 16' Rebel.

Like I always say, there are days when I would have no problem paddling to Canada across Lake Erie in a canoe, and there are days when I wouldn't go out 50 yards past the break wall in a 40 footer.

Pick your days, keep an eye on the sky, and you'll get plenty of fishing in in any sized boat.

The weather usually isn't the factor, it's the experience of the captain.

T Mac
09-30-2008, 06:15 PM
Lund guru's
I was looking at a used Lund 1800 Fisherman, 98 model and the guy that had it, is a Lund dealer said it would not be a good Erie boat and it could not take the abuse of an Erie pounding.:badidea: It was the model with the 3 liter I\O.
I thought all Lunds were big water boats. Whats the scoop here? Are the hulls that much differant between models?:huh::help:

Waves are waves. Rough is rough...no matter what big lake.
Theres a whole lot of Lunds on big lakes all over North America.
Geezz...Where is the dealer located?
Maybe he has something else on his lot that HE NEEDS to get rid of -worse-... and would rather have you buy??

:confused:

coman61
09-30-2008, 06:32 PM
I think you guys missed the point I was tring to make as well as the sellers. The words Erie Pounding were not mine they were the sellers. I think what he was saying is, that Lund makes a better quality boat that should be used primarily on Lake Erie. I was shocked that he didn't feel that this boat may not be up to the task but I wasn't going to argue with someone that sells this brand of boat. We are all well aware that there are days that even a boat of moddest quality can be used on Erie. I guess what I was asking is the Fisherman series that inferior to say a Tyee, Baron or a tournament series?
Maybe I said something to make him believe I was going to go out there and drop the hammer in 4 footers but that wasn't my intent. I simply stated that I wanted a big water boat for Erie. Maybe the fact that this boat only has a 3 liter I/O was the factor? Maybe a little under powered because of the weight vs HP issue? I don't know. In any case I was totally shocked to hear this.

jdino
09-30-2008, 06:48 PM
Can't speak for the '98 Fisherman as I own a '06 but I have fished Erie for the first time this year and have had no problems with this size of Lund. I too was worried that my boat, when I purchased it used, might not be big enough. I was wrong. You'd be supprised on how many smaller boats that are out there. As for being underpowered? I've found out that unless it is down right calm to 1' to 2' rs, you will seldom be running WOT but that's just me. Others maybe able to handle rougher conditions.

Dacotah Eye
09-30-2008, 07:33 PM
I have an 1800 Fisherman powered by an outboard and I fish the Missouri River Reservoir system in South Dakota. It can get very rough when the wind comes up. We don't get large rollers like the great lakes do, but there are times I wish I had a 24 footer out there. In my opinion the key is to slow down and learn to quarter the waves. Anyone can pound a boat to death it they run too fast in this stuff. I had a 19' Starcraft Superfisherman with a 4.3 liter Mercruiser that I ran on this system for 13 years and it held up great. When the wind was blowing and it got rough, I throttled it down and didn't let it pound on the waves. There were a lot of days that I ran about 13 mph to get where I was going. I got there a bit later and didn't pound my back to the point that I was 2" shorter at the end of the day. My 1800 Fisherman seems to be more solid than the Starcraft was.

ret461
09-30-2008, 08:15 PM
with all the models where does the fisherman fit in with the tyee, baron and tournament series. Construction wise are they the same? Is it the layout and storage thats dif..

FisHn2DMax
09-30-2008, 10:08 PM
The Fisherman is built almost identical the tyee. It is NOT a bottom end Lund! There are other models below the fisherman in the same size. The only difference I could see in the specs was the bottom aluminum thickness is just slightly thinner on the fisherman versus the higher end tyee. The fisherman is just that - A boat made for fisherman with a high sides for safety. All of the Lund fisherman's that I've been in ( including my own) act much larger that they actually are in big water conditions. My only concern would be the extra weight of the I/O compared to that of an outboard. The I/O should be fine as long as you don't add a heavy kicker motor and fish with 4 big guys in 3-4' rollers and/ or expect it to run 50+ MPH. The Lund fisherman is an awesome boat with a proven history that it can take a pounding.

coman61
10-01-2008, 07:40 AM
Thanks for all your replies, all good information. FisHn2Max, That is the kind of information I was looking for.... the differance between models and the I/O vs OB. And a kicker would be a must. Most 1800 fisherman have a recessed spot for this, this one does not.:mad:
Perhaps the seller that I would be unhappy because he knew that my current boat is a 25' glass boat. I love that boat but its getting to expensive to operate with gas prices the way they are now. A 35 mile trip in a mild chop costs me $100. Thats why I'm looking into a smaller aluminum boat. I'm still sitting on fence if I should buy this boat or not but I think I can feel better about it if I do.:blahblah:

Miami Vice
10-01-2008, 03:25 PM
coman61
Going from a 24' glass boat to a 18' tin boat, you are going to notice a big difference in ride.
A longer boat will ride better than a shorter boat.
A heavier boat will ride better than a lighter boat.
Most glass boats have a deeper V, so they are going to ride softer than a tin boat that has a modified V.
Most glass boats have a big flare in the bow area to keep the spray away from you, so they are going to be a drier boat than a tin boat.
If you want to spend less on gas, you are going to give up some ride comfort.
If they ever invent a boat the burns the same amount of gas as an 18' tin boat, but rides like a 24' glass boat we would all be buying that boat.
Miami Vice