View Full Version : New MI Fishing Regulations Coming April 1, 2009
Phil V
11-10-2008, 09:27 AM
I just wanted to pass along this link regarding Michigan's new Fishing Regulation coming for April 1, 2009. It looks like 3 rods will be allowed on Michigan waters.
http://www.mi.gov/som/0,1607,7-192--203142--,00.html
Will this new "3 Rod Rule" also be carried into the rules for the 2009 Walleye Tours/Leagues?
You might want to take up juggling in the off season, (i.e., for the Circus act that will be coming to town in Spring 2009 on the Trenton Channel.
Phil Verdura
http://walleyeleague.flwoutdoors.com/rules.cfm?cid=7
12. Permitted fishing methods
All fish must be caught in a conventional sporting manner.
Live bait may be used.
No more than two fishing rods per angler may be used at a time.
Trolling is permitted.
This is the way it's always been and should stay, as always regardless of state regulation, hopefully the new MI, rule don't end up as an excuse to cheat, like what happened at Oconto WI FLW League event last year, where a seasoned guy with 20+ flw events under his belt tried to be conveniently confused till his honest co-angler turned him in.
This is the way it's always been and should stay, as always regardless of state regulation.
Right...except in places where only one rod per person is allowed. Then the state regulations superceed the FLW's rules.
Juls
Manxfishing
11-12-2008, 01:42 PM
http://walleyeleague.flwoutdoors.com/rules.cfm?cid=7
12. Permitted fishing methods
All fish must be caught in a conventional sporting manner.
Live bait may be used.
No more than two fishing rods per angler may be used at a time.
Trolling is permitted.
They really need to add some thing for the number of hooks allowed per line
Ohio is 3, Michigan is 4
And addressing the issue of sliders would clear up things
From what Sonny said at the last event this year, we can expect to see sliders excluded from use in the future.
The number of hooks has always been whatever the state regs are.
Juls
Manxfishing
11-12-2008, 02:49 PM
They should call it
one bait per rod or reel with up to the max. number of hooks allowed by that state
(it covers sliders and hand lines)
Otherwise hand liners will run 2 baits
and people will just start rigging trolling rods like the hand liners (2 baits)
What's the difference whether they run two baits on one handline or one bait on two separate rods?
Why should the handliner be penalized just because their running their two baits on one line rather than two lines?
I guess I don't understand what you're saying....???
Juls
guest
11-12-2008, 03:39 PM
All tournaments in my opinion, because of the skill level, should be two rods one bait on each per person
walleyegater1212
11-12-2008, 06:52 PM
So what your saying is because you don''t know how to handline it should not be permitted?
WallyWalla
11-13-2008, 07:31 AM
it is legel to run sliders if done correct.to me that would also be running 2 baits on 1 line like handlining. DOn`t see what the differance is there.
it is legel to run sliders if done correct.to me that would also be running 2 baits on 1 line like handlining. DOn`t see what the differance is there.
You're right...keywords being..."done correctly".
From what I understand, the reason the FLW may not allow sliders anymore is this:
1. Abuse of the number of hooks allowed.
2. Abuse of the line law when retreiving the line it's attached to. Technically, the slider line needed to be taken all the way in before retreiving the main line it was attached to, and sometimes that didn't happen. That fact can't be argued, because it's on film. :)
Anyhooo...there is a difference between running two baits on one handline and running up to four baits on one side of the boat off of two rods.
Yes, when done correctly, it's legal, but when it's done incorrectly, it's illegal.
It's the illegal attempts that will make it a no-can-use technique in the FLW.
Juls
piper
11-13-2008, 08:50 AM
Why not just make it simple and have the rules read 2 baits/lures per person.... may run them any way they want. Whether that be with one rod, two rods, or handlining.
WallyWalla
11-13-2008, 10:02 AM
Juls, i agree with what you say to a point.If hook point numbers area broken as well as fishing it incorrectly that should be a DQ for those anglers.It is up to them to know what the rules and laws for the state they are fishing.
Sliders are a great thing during a tough bite.Lets not punish the ones that follow the rules as well as the state laws from using it.
I guess you could compare it to someone using 3 baits on a handlining reel and they get caught.Then tell everyone that you can no longer use them due to that.
Dwayne
MNwalleyehunter
11-13-2008, 01:06 PM
I feel the same, if done properly sliders are a great way to catch fish. They are also legal, if it wasn't for one problem last year we could probably use sliders this year also.
I agree, if they say no sliders, handliners should be reduced to one crankbait per line also. They should just go with a rule of two rods per person and only one lure per rod. Unless of course state laws are different, like the great state of MN:)
MNwalleyehunter
SGC24
11-13-2008, 02:07 PM
They are also legal, if it wasn't for one problem last year we could probably use sliders this year also. MNwalleyehunter
Theres been more than one problem. I know several pros who were misusing them. This co angler will be happy to see them go. They're a pain in the :censored:
Phil V
11-15-2008, 08:29 AM
This is just my opinion, so please don't beat me up over it. Last year at the FLW Tour Pre-tounament meetings, there seems to be a lot of questions regarding what's legal and not legal. That alone tells me that the rules can be ambiguous. In other words, the Pro's & Co's are interpreting the rules differently from one another. I believe that not only should the rules state that what is legal, but also what is not legal. All bases should be covered in order to remove any doubt.
And since were on the topic; another great ammenity would be to give all contestants a map of the launch area and a map/schmatic of how traffic is suppose to flow, (i.e., prior to finding out at the last minute on Day 1). Also, dialog is needed to reduce the wait time for the boaters at check-in and weigh-in.
Is there a Continuous Improvement (kaizan) action for the betterment of conducting tournaments?
I'd volunteer.
Phil Verdura
Mike K unlogged
12-01-2008, 03:23 PM
Phil,
You still laid off? If so call me, lots of CAD jobs if you want to move.
Mike K
guest
12-01-2008, 07:33 PM
From what Sonny said at the last event this year, we can expect to see sliders excluded from use in the future.
The number of hooks has always been whatever the state regs are.
Juls
He also said that willow cats were not going to be allowed at the league championship in winona this year.But they were.He told us this at the rathbun tourney.So I wouldnt believe everything sonny says.