Brunswick Lund dates...

[luredaddy]

Was 2005 the first year of Brunswick Lund manufacturing??
Thanks,
John

[X-Lund employee]

It was april of 2004, Thats when things began to go down the craper. "again my opinion"

[2Labs]

It was april of 2004, Thats when things began to go down the craper. "again my opinion"


Wow. 5 years already? Doesn't seem like that long. But, you would know better than anyone else, so I believe it.

[Gman621]

I still love my Lund and would chose it above a few other boats on the market which some other people may consider to be equal. It's what big companies do overtime and in this day and age to cut costs - heck I even discovered something yesterday my parent company did without notifying anyone, the only reason I know is from our technician/applications specialist who goes to HQ on a regular basis for training and testing!

Lundfisher

[Blackmacs]

I couldn't tell one bit of quality difference between my 1991 and my 2005 Lunds. Maybe I got lucky.

[X-Lund employee]

I have an '06 Lund Fisherman, my friend has what I believe is an '02 or maybe even an '03 and there's a big difference between his and mine. His being more robustly built; the aluminum console's are constructed with much thicker aluminum and are fastened better, the windshield is more sturdy, the hinges on the bow storage compartments are of higher quality.

I still love my Lund and would chose it above a few other boats on the market which some other people may consider to be equal. It's what big companies do overtime and in this day and age to cut costs - heck I even discovered something yesterday my parent company did without notifying anyone, the only reason I know is from our technician/applications specialist who goes to HQ on a regular basis for training and testing!

Cheers,
Lundfisher

I would like to comment here, Like I probably said in an earlier post, I have no real anger about being let go. I believe it was a decision made as a cost savings. most of us 140 who got the axe in november, were top paid employees. and if you have already cut the costs of materials ( purchaseing cheaper and lower quality parts from venders) you have to keep cutting to stay competitive. I have talked to a number of employees that are still employeed with Lund, they haven't got much to do, things have really slowed down. So again the layoff makes sense, if you don't have many boats to build, why pay the higher paid employees to stand around when you can keep the lower paid ones on, and then show the corporate boys how much money you are saveing,and still keeping the doors open. This kinda thing will work until they get busy again, then they will need experienced workers who can jump in and get the ball rolling again. (but that aint gonna happen Lund burnt us bad on this deal.) To make a comment on the quality issue, Alot of us veterans showed concerns especially in quality, but as just a bunch of grunt employees. Their is not much we could do about it. Once we became corporatly owned, alot of these decissions, now, are made on a corporate level by a person sitting behind a desk in some corporate office somewhere.
I see alot of you arn't real Erwin Jacob fans. but I can tell you this, I had worked for Erwin and I had worked for Brunswick. I can tell you that Erwin took very good care of us. Erwin believed in input by his employees, alot of which you can see in the product we built under his ownership. Again, all this is just my opinion from my experience.
In closeing I would like to say: If you own a lund and love it, "Thank a veteran employee." If you just bought a Lund and its not what you thought it should be. "Thank the Corporation"

[T Mac]

I have an '06 Lund Fisherman, my friend has what I believe is an '02 or maybe even an '03 and there's a big difference between his and mine. His being more robustly built; the aluminum console's are constructed with much thicker aluminum and are fastened better, the windshield is more sturdy, the hinges on the bow storage compartments are of higher quality.
Lundfisher


Two different boats...but what you state is just not factual.
Go back through the brochures and check specifications.
OH - BTW...we had much more problems with the consoles back in 02 & 03 than we did on the newer designed ones.

As for the windshields...they are all made by Taylor...same can be said for almost all brands fishboats.
They were in Taylor made in 02 and they still are...and there is nowhere else to get the quantities needed.

Also, Lund has been winning the CSI award for their category in recent years. (highest customer satisfaction index).
That wouldn't happen if quality had gone down.

Also by the way... check the warranty of your 06 against an 02. ;)

The power of suggestion is truly POWERFUL.

And despite what is being suggested over and over, week after weerk...on this venue... Lund did not cause this recession that has cost so many people across America their jobs.

[mdoehling]

I to will respectfully disagree with the thought that LUNDS are not built as good today as before Brunswick. My first lund was a 2004 Pro-Sport purchased in may of 2004, (new) So manufacture date had to be prior to Brunswick. Sold it last spring and purchased a 1750 Fisherman in the fall. I noticed no structural deficiencies from the 04 Pro-sport to the 08 Fisherman. I consider the 08 fisherman a better designed boat and built as well if not better than the previous model fishermans.

Now I don't have a wealth of years of experience with lunds that some may have. but I do pay close attention to details and studied both boats extremly thoroughly before I purchased either one. And I believe that the today's boats are buiilt as well as 4-5 years ago. Now time (10 -15 years) will tell the true story of how well the Brunswick Lunds hold up. But if intial quyality is any indicator I would believe that they will hold up as we expect Lunds to.

Just MHO.

[teaser]

My last 2 Lunds (ProV 2025) have been 2005 and 2007 and I believe the quality has been just as good as the prior 10 Lunds I've owned and the features have actually improved some. My dealer took a dump, but another new dealer to the area has treated me very well since and I will definately discuss the next boat with them.

I'm sure there is validity regarding comments pertaining to Lund and changes under Brunswick. There are not many businesses today that will survive moving forward without change and hopefully it is change for the good, but look out for what doesn't meet your acceptance.

In the past, I was very comfortable with ordering a new 1900 or 2025 at the very beginning of the model year, sight unseen because I trusted the opinions of the dealer and the rep with their knowledge of upcoming model changes, etc. All that has changed big time and some of the posters reflect those experiences. In the future when considering a new boat, especially with these rigs going for $50K and more, I will make certain that there are no unanswered questions and to be safe, make a sound comparison to the other leading proven performers.

To those that have been effected in the work place, please try to remain positive and never give up. More change lies ahead and that will create opportunity, hopefully one that will match up with you. I appreciate the constructive comments pertaining to this topic...if nothing else it's a wake up call to pay keen attention regarding anything you spend your money on and with whom. Might consider placing the down payment boat money in an esrow account, similar to buying a house to keep it secure and close the sale when you get the title...just fuel for thought. Times are changing and the slow market conditions have been deadly for the cash flow of many businesses. I hope they can hang in there and conditions begin to improve soon.

[THP]

I agree with what is written immediately above. I purchased a 2008 Pro Guide and couldn't be more pleased. The dealings I've had with Lund customer service since then to answer my questions and remedy minor issues have been nothing short of exceptional.

More importantly, I recognize that the Lund workers recently displaced for economic reasons were probably among those who were building my boat about a year ago in 2008. I recogize and appreciate their craftsmanship and skills, and wish them luck and good fortune finding employment elsewhere.

[X-Lund employee]

I agree with what is written immediately above. I purchased a 2008 Pro Guide and couldn't be more pleased. The dealings I've had with Lund customer service since then to answer my questions and remedy minor issues have been nothing short of exceptional.

More importantly, I recognize that the Lund workers recently displaced for economic reasons were probably among those who were building my boat about a year ago in 2008. I recogize and appreciate their craftsmanship and skills, and wish them luck and good fortune finding employment elsewhere.

I sincerely wish all of you the best of luck with your new purchases. I just hope you feel the same way a year or two from now. I guess, only time will tell.

[Blackmacs]

I sincerely wish all of you the best of luck with your new purchases. I just hope you feel the same way a year or two from now. I guess, only time will tell.

You've stated that you feel the quality isn't what it should be in the newer boats. What specific things do you think a person should look for if considering a new Lund or for owners of "Brunswick" Lunds to watch for.

Thanks

[Matt V]

X-Lund Employee seem's to jump on every Lund boat thread and start's bashing Lund's quality. He still has not given any specific's as to where the quality has slipped. I have purchased new Lund's in 1993, 2002 and a Glass Lund in 2008 and have been extremely happy with the quality of all of them...

[X-Lund employee]

X-Lund Employee seem's to jump on every Lund boat thread and start's bashing Lund's quality. He still has not given any specific's as to where the quality has slipped. I have purchased new Lund's in 1993, 2002 and a Glass Lund in 2008 and have been extremely happy with the quality of all of them...

All I am stateing is what I have seen change over the years, I still have alot of good friends working for Lund. I would hate to see it leave the community.

Their are many stages to the process of building a boat. Once it is compleated, as consumers you only see the final product. Do you look at the seams ? how many supports are under your floor? How about the Ribs, how many does your boat have, how far are they spaced apart ? What grade of plywood is your floor made from? Compare the grade of carpet used 5 years ago to what is used today.
Hey if your happy, Great !! Im just saying what I have seen with my own eyes.
Im sorry if I pissed a few folks off here. but if it were me I would listen to everyone. I would recommend with any big purchase one should talk to as many people as possible, previous owners not just dealers. If you have just ordered a new boat, I would suggest you find out the start date and go watch it thru its process. "its kinda cool". Talk to the people who are assembling your boat, ask questions.
As for a " PRO'S Opinion", take that with a grain of salt. ( If ford were to give me a new truck to use for a year I probably would be a big ford supporter too. )
I just want to say when purchasing anything now days, don't relie on a companies reputation. Its not the same world as it was 10 years ago. I'm not saying lund is junk, as a matter of fact I still think they are better built than alot of boats out their. I'm just stating their not what they use to be.
Again, sorry for giving my thoughts.

[PJM]

X-Lund Employee seem's to jump on every Lund boat thread and start's bashing Lund's quality. He still has not given any specific's as to where the quality has slipped. I have purchased new Lund's in 1993, 2002 and a Glass Lund in 2008 and have been extremely happy with the quality of all of them...

Matt V

There is not bashing going on here, he is just stating facts of how the boats are built. Now jumping from a aluminum to a glass in 2008 you must have noticed a difference in the ride............