View Full Version : Lindy No-Snagg Timb'r Rock Jig
Neal/CO
03-15-2002, 08:18 AM
Do these jigs really come thru the snags as advertised?
Yes, these jigs are superior when fishing timber. I fish Devils Lake, and many of my walleyes come on these jigs. You will still get snagged up, but they seem to pull out easier because of the postion of where you tie onto them at. If you have any more questions, feel free to shoot me an email at mack1821@hotmail.com
the entire no-snagg line is incredable. used a no-snagg hook on rainy for two days w/o losing it. i know thats too long, i did retie a couple times. it was a bet to see how long it would last.
fisherman
03-15-2002, 10:44 AM
You might want to check out ' Bait Rigs' line of jigs also.
Peter H
03-15-2002, 11:12 AM
Good jig for getting right in the timber. The wire guard system is great. The Lindy style are not as good as when Greg made them at Strictly Walleye but they do work better then any alternative I can come up with. (I have a stash of old style, but tried repeatedly the new style - kind of like t-sticks and tots).
Dave S
03-15-2002, 11:18 AM
They recently at the Nebraska Walleye Assocation show had a large tank filled with water and brush, cement blocks,etc. I could not snag the Lindy No Snag jig dropping it in and out of thick unerwater brush. Sure looked like to me it would reduce your hangups in brush.
dkooser
03-15-2002, 11:50 AM
Neal - before you buy some of the Lindy type, lemme give you some of the ones Greg Bohn made. If you recall, my wife ordered me about 14Bazillion of them one Christmas.
Kevin/CO
03-15-2002, 06:12 PM
They have gotten a lot of praise here on the board so it seems that they are atleast a quality product. I don't jig so I don't know but thats atleast the word here on teh board from teh past.
Juls_WI
03-15-2002, 06:47 PM
Yep Neal,
The Timb'r Rocks are incredible. They work like they say they do. Also, even though they have the new Veggie-Jig for working weeds, I have used the Timb'r Rock in the weeds and had a great experience...it came up clean about 90% of the time. (This was before they came out with the Veggie-Jigs.)
And, best of all...they do catch fish!
Juls
Stump
03-15-2002, 06:54 PM
Hey dkoozer
The Lindy Timb'r rock jigs were partially designed by Bohn. The whole concept was designed after Bohns original jigs.Yours are probably very similar to Timbrs.
Stump
"COMA"
03-15-2002, 07:34 PM
I fished the infamous lowerdam at fort dodge, Ia. with one of these timber rock jigs for three hours and it was truely "amazing". If you haver fished the lower dam here you will know why I say Amazing. To bad the walleyes were not there to show me if the jig was capable of catching fish. But it has my vote for extreme value of not getting snags. If they do not hamper the fish catching ability of the jig. I believe all jigs should be made like this to drasticly reduce the tons of lead being left at the bottom of lakes and rivers every year.
waEYES
03-15-2002, 07:44 PM
Hey Juls,
How does it do in rip rap and other rocky areas?
g Bohn designed the timber jig. He is the inventer. Lindy will tell you that. BUT only a few of you would ever have heard of the timbr jig if it wasn't for Lindy. They are the heros here, not the villians. anyone who doughts this can call Greg. He's a great gut and will tell you the straight truth.
Peter H
03-16-2002, 07:22 AM
I repectfully disagree. Lindy obtained an exicting design that was produced for many years by Greg.
I can not buy the old ones anymore so I am crying over spilled milk. I have to buy new designs from now on. They are still better then anything else. Let me provide a discription of the orginal vs the new jig using a 1/8 oz jig orange/yellow as I have two in my hand right now.
1) The hooks look the same, except the length of the hook is now 1/2 inch longer. 1 inch for old, 1 1/2 inch for new. There is a slight difference in gap - larger on the new jig.
2) The wire strand. The old version is much wire is much closer to the point of the hook - 1/2 inch closer as the length of the hook dictates.
3) New jig has a bait holder extention on the end of the lead of the jig. The old ones did not have this. Same oval lead shape over all.
4) Color - there is no comparing. The old jig is vibrant with a full 1/2 orange and 1/2 yellow. Eyes straight black and good contrast on the yellow back 1/2 of lead. The new jig looks like it was mass produced. Weak color. Yellow color is less vibrant and the orange is quickly painted on the top 1/4 of the jig. Eyes placed more forward with a green with a black pupil. Eye places in the 1/4 of the jig orange reducing contrast.
5) Good thing for the new jig - the eye was clean. The old jigs are a pain to clean out the eye.
I do not want to start a fight. This is my opinion on jigging. I have used jigs extensively and love timber for walleyes. It is my prefered way to catch fish at times (go where the fish are). My wife is from Woodruff and her mothers home was 1 mile from Strictly Walleye. I always stopped and picked up a "box". Both jigs work great - but the old jig worked better in my opinion - maybe Greg resigned by why was that his jig available for years before in Minocqua? Again maybe it comes down to profit - less expensive ways to manufacture. I run a business - that is the way I would want to do it.
Ted Takasaki
03-18-2002, 10:17 AM
Lindy's NO-SNAGG Timbr' Rock is an awesome jig for fishing snaggy timber, brush piles, stumps and many types of rocks. We looked high and low for a system that would complement our highly successful NO-SNAGG slip sinkers and I truly believe that the 7 strand snag guard is the best for keeping you out of the snags, yet hook and hold fish.
The 7 strand wire guard is adjustable and the most versatile snag guard for light biting fish. I'll often push and spread the strands of wire down towards the hook for neutral or negative fish. You can even clip a couple of the strands to make it even easier to hook the fish and still remain relatively snag free. As with any jig, there are times when the fish bite but won't always hook themselves, but this is the best thing going for times when the fish get right into the cover where they feel comfortable. You can now fish in spots where you never thought were possible before. As with any fishing tackle, there is a time and a place for NO-SNAGG products. They are a tool (just like a carpenter or a golfer - different tools for different jobs/shots) for specific fishing conditions.
We have implemented the 7 strand snag guard for the new NO-SNAGG Veg-E-Jig and the NO-SNAGG rigs, snells and hooks to create a complete NO-SNAGG fishing system. In my travels during the past seminar and sport show season, I have had tons of consumers with extremely positive results.
I have asked Greg Bohn himself to comment on his experiences with the jig as he was instrumental in the redesign of the jig. He has had the most experience with this system. We have done everything that he asked us to do and he personally approved all modifications. Keep an eye out for his upcoming post.
Good fishing!
Ted
Neal/CO
03-18-2002, 11:38 AM
Sounds like I need to get some!
Pitts
03-18-2002, 11:52 AM
Neal they can be purchased in a kit with a nice box for holding all the different sizes and if ya think ya need more of one size or another you can pick them up in packs of 2 same color same size.
Pitts
WAeyes
03-18-2002, 06:09 PM
Hey Ted,
Thanks for very informative and detailed information on those. I especially enjoyed your tip on targeting neutral to negative fish. I have a few good spots that have a very "sticky" bottom and often get hung up and lose many jigs. If I don't fish this close to the bottom, I don't catch the fish. I think I will give some of these jigs a try this year. Do they come with a long shank to use with plastics?
The no-snagg timbr-rock jig work very well for timber and rocks.
But, if you need a jig for working weeds - the weed weasal from Northland is tough to beat. It has a long slender nose - to which is tied the line - so that weeds don't get caught. Then it has a plastic weed guard over the hook to keep from getting hung up.
For weeds - give them a try.
In the spring - I will use the 1/16th oz jig in water as shallow as 2 feet in newly emergent vegetation - where the eyes are chasing the minnows, and they really hammer them.
You can jig for a long time in this weedy water - without getting hung up with these jigs.
Take care
REW
Greg Bohn "Strictly Walleye"
03-20-2002, 08:52 AM
Just a couple of comments regarding both the Lindy Timb'r Rock Jig and new Veg-E Jig. Lindys complete line of No-Snagg Products have allowed anglers across the country including myself a 28 year full time Walleye Guide to fish where no one has fished before. Daily I witness the benifits to having the Timb'r Rock & Veg-E Jig Series in my guide boat! My clients daily catches have increased tremendously due to there "not spooking the fish" before having had a chance to catch them. What? It's true that the No-Snagg Systems by Lindy like the Timb'r Rock and Veg-E Jig do work great in cover! But that's not the total story. They better not spook fish!!!
It's important that anglers remember these (3) No-Snagg Jig Features. Hanging up tradional jigs in both Timber & Weed cover is not productive fish catching strategy. (1.) For example (tearing weeds) free from the lake bottom or (busting off) limbs and tree branches will quickly spook Walleye and Crappie. Your chances of catching these structure hidden fish are OVER! Infact for many years my clients spooked most fish before we could catch them. (2.) Having a Timb'r Rock Jig or Veg-E Jig slip through all types of wood & weed cover "not spooking but catching" fish is the total picture. (3.) Finally and most importantly the Timb'r Rock & Veg-E Jig must hook fish too! Having the patented Angler Adjustable Wire Guard allows the angler "total control" regarding snag protection and hook sets. You've probably heard that most weedless type jigs are not good hooking jigs! Untill now that is. If any of the (3) jig features fail, so does your catch.
I cut my walleye guide teeth on the famous Turtle Flambeau Flowage in Northern Wisconsin's walleye belt. If a Timb'r Rock Jig for example can fish there-it can fish anywhere. Talk about snag infested water. How about Devils Lake. Limit walleye catches day after day using the Timb'r Rock Jig. Unbelievable results. Infact (11) guide boats followed me one day to what they thought was my secret walleye lake. The secret was the Timb'r Rock Jig fished in heavy submerged brush. This jig accounted for 37 straight days of snag infested walleye limits. How many jigs can you recall causing such a stir. And the daily catches still continue.
The effort by Lindy to produce the complete line of No-Snagg Tackle including the Timb'r Rock & Veg-E Jig Series is revolutionary. Through years of research and developement Lindy has improved many key jig features which include eight color selections, several additional weight sizes, improved/enlarged hooks, double painted big eyes, paint free eyelets, barbed collars for crawlers and plastic's just to name a few.
And what about Lindy's new Veg-E Jig Series. Is it true that that Veg-E Jig goes through all (weed types) including sand grass like they are not even there? This is HANDS DOWN the "finest walleye jig" I've ever tied on a line. No line twist, straight up-down jigging pattern, tipped with live bait or plastic's it's deadly. Talk about hooking power in weeds. It's Outstanding! Hooks em-right now! The slender head design, vertical eyelet, Gamagatsu hook, and unique barbed collar make this an explosive weed jig presentation. Unlike no other. North American Fisherman Magazine will feature an upcoming story on the Veg-E Jig.
Your continued support is greatly appreciated!
Greg Bohn
Strictly Walleye
Peter H
03-20-2002, 12:49 PM
Thank you for responding on the redesigned jig. I have the utmost respect for you and your years of experience on fishing the "wood". You revolutionized wood fishing with this great jig for getting into the thick of the structure.
With all due respect, I still like your old jig better and here is why. The 1/2 inch gap created by the longer shank creates a larger gap between the point of the hook and the wire strands. The strands can be bent to facilitate a the covering of the point as needed but the angle is changed to get this coverage. The angle on the old jigs was at a much steeper angle and seemed to cover the hook. In my testing of old verses new, I found the old jig had fewer hang ups in the brush the then the new one. Same fish hook ups but I lost more jigs. You CAN lose both of these jigs in heavy cover. The basic physics of the new jig seem more prone to snags then the old one. More down time - less fish. I realize you must have tested these also and what did you find old vs new? More fish hook ups on the new larger gap and longer hook? More marketable - barbed collars for plastics verses live bait?
Color - your old colors were much more vibrant. True the new design offers more colors; but not nearly as energetic. Your orginal jigs primary function was wood which is typical found in many flowages as you "cut your teeth on". These north woods flowages are stained by the tannin (tamarack swamps) from the river systems or dark due to algae blooms. Why did you change to a less vibrant colors? I am sure you had a reason. I love the clean eye on the new one. Is the paint technology such as to not facilitate a clean eye yet give the vibrant deep gloss color?
Again as I said before, I can not get anymore of your old jigs so I am crying over spilled milk. Just asking questions about why it changed - you or Ted never did say "why" you changed each part of the jig I described. Vague testing references does not sell me giving up my coveting of my remaining old jigs. My email is holdridg@dwave.net, if you would like.
greg does strictly walleye have a web site?
The web site is www.gregbohn.com. We have a place in Minocqua and Greg's store "Strictly Walleye Headquarters" is closed and I believe the building is for rent. It was vacant all summer from what I remember. I liked getting bait there, he always had nice red tails. Does anyone know if Greg is still in business in the Minocqua area? Did he re-locate to Minnesota near Lindy Little-Joe?
Best Regards,
FJH
Ted Takasaki
03-21-2002, 04:31 PM
You're absolutely right about being tight to the bottom when it comes to jigging.
Both the NO-SNAGG Timb'r Rock and the Veg-E-Jig come with long shank hooks and collars to hold plastics.
Good Fishing,
Ted
Scott Richardson
03-21-2002, 08:49 PM
Hi,
Greg still guides in the Vilas/Oneida counties area of Wisconsin.
I had the pleasure to fish with him last October. The wind was blowing hard. The larger lakes were unfishable, so he took me to a flowage on the Wisconsin River. We anchored, cast Veg-E-Jigs and let them sink down in and around snags. The pickups were light, but we got 7 nice walleyes. We may have lost a jig, but I don't remember it. He also had us use slip-bobber rigs and minnows next to the boat. We got 17 perch that way. Oh, and we were out about 4 hours. That included time for pictures.
He knows his stuff, he designed one ##### of a no-snag jigging system and he is a great guy to spend time with. I look forward to fishing with him again real soon.
Scott Richardson