View Full Version : G-loomis rods Q.
albhb3
04-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Hi guys I am going to be picking up a few rods and reels early next week they are as follows and will only be used on mille lacs. I was wondering if you guys think these will work well for that particular lake. Should I add another just for hard/soft baits? Thanks
Jigging:
2 G-loomis 6'2 742s-glx's
Rigging
2 G-loomis 7' 8400s-glx's
Trolling
2 G-loomis 7'10 941c's
As for reels I will be going with
Jigging:Quantum® Energy® PT™ Spinning Reel's
Rigging:Quantum® Energy® PT™ Spinning Reel's
Trolling: Daiwa Sealine'sSG27LCA's
brentfrank
04-01-2009, 04:25 PM
Tax refund or bonus?
albhb3
04-01-2009, 04:52 PM
birthday!
I Walleye
04-01-2009, 07:08 PM
If it where me, for lindy rigging I'd go with a HSR 9000 in IMX instead of the 8400. The HSR9000 is 6 inches longer and IMO has a better feel. I own one and with the long snells on ML that extra 6" is really nice. I've got Shimano Symetre reels on my lindy rods and love them.
I am unfamiliar with the other two rods, and if that's your B'day gifts, I want to come over for Xmas!
blueroof
04-01-2009, 07:42 PM
Jigging:
2 G-loomis 6'2 742s-glx's
Rigging
2 G-loomis 7' 8400s-glx's
Trolling
2 G-loomis 7'10 941c's
Personally I would get a sjr 721 for jigging (unless you already have one.) and the hsr9000 for rigging as suggested. I would drop the 941's and pickup 4 cheaper rods for different trolling applications and throw the other $200 into crank baits.
180 EyeQ
04-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Hi guys I am going to be picking up a few rods and reels early next week they are as follows and will only be used on mille lacs. I was wondering if you guys think these will work well for that particular lake. Should I add another just for hard/soft baits? Thanks
Jigging:
2 G-loomis 6'2 742s-glx's
Rigging
2 G-loomis 7' 8400s-glx's
Trolling
2 G-loomis 7'10 941c's
As for reels I will be going with
Jigging:Quantum® Energy® PT™ Spinning Reel's
Rigging:Quantum® Energy® PT™ Spinning Reel's
Trolling: Daiwa Sealine'sSG27LCA's
I own the 8400's and 941’s and they are great choices for what you’re planning to use them for. I have Shimano Symetre reels on my 8400's and love them. I use 17LCA's on the 941's and have been very happy with those.
My only suggestion would be to look at the SJ842 for jigging. Either the GL3 or the GLX both are fine rods but I would lean towards the GL3.
By the way, I know most people don’t think it makes sense to spend $200 on a trolling rod :cookoo: but I can tell you without question the 941’s are worth every cent. It’s not hard to detect any problem such as the smallest bit of debris fouling the bait. Also they load up great which makes playing those big girls a joy. The length is perfect for handling fish near the boat, long enough to keep them from getting into props etc… but not too long to make landing hard. I used cheep trolling rods once and they will cost you fish. If you can afford the 941's I think you'll love them.
wildnorthern
04-02-2009, 01:38 PM
What is rigging?
interested party
04-02-2009, 02:02 PM
I would certainly upgrade your gears
SonarGuy
04-02-2009, 08:40 PM
The WTR941 is a great trolling rod a real work horse. I use 8 of them for everything from Leadcore, in-line boards, dead sticks for bouncing and long line trolling. Enough strength in the butt section to move around a Lake Erie Rainbow and a fast enough tip to see a crank wobble 200 feet behind the boat.
G-Loomis came up with a great blank design for trolling when they developed the WTR941.
One other rod you may want to look at for rigging is the Drop Shot Rod DSR820 GLX.
ALH,
In addition to some of the other suggestions, I might make one other suggestion.
For Mille Lacs - it seems that many folks use very long leaders. They use the long leaders out of necessity, or because others use them. The reason really doesn't matter. But if you use long leaders - like 6-10 feet - it is nice to have a longer rod to be better able to accomodate these leaders.
As a result of that need, many folks like to use an 8 1/2 - 9 1/2 foot rod for rigging on Mille Lacs.
My favorite rod style for this type rigging is a two piece steel head rod that is rated as medium light - with a 6-10 lb line weight rating.
The thing that is generally very nice about the actions of steel head rods is that they tend to have an overall slower action. This means that about the upper third of the rod begans to bend as the rod loads up. This means that the fish can take the bait, and began to move with the tip beginning to bend - with little back pressure being felt by the fish.
This is a very very popular rod style for Mille Lacs that is not too commonly used by folks who aren't in the circuit.
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With respect to the SHR9000 as a rigging rod. Particularly in the IMX version. Use it if you like - but I generally don't like using it for a couple of reasons.
I find that the butt of the rod is too beefy and the overall feel of the rod is heavy. I also thing that the tip is a bit too fast for the perfect rigging rod.
Conversely, if you get this rod in the GL3 version, the overall action of the rod is much softer, the action of the rod is slower, and the butt is a bit lighter - all of which combine to make it a much better rigging rod in my opinion.
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For many years, I had an HSR9000 IMX that simply hung on the wall of my shop - unused, because I couldn't find a really good use for the rod.
Then, one day I happened to bring it along when I went river fishing - where we were pitching jigs- in the heavier weights for both hair jigs and plastic to wing dams and sand flats.
All of a sudden, I found the perfect use for this rod. The stiffer butt and the faster tip action and the longer length was the perfect river jig fishing rod for doing long distance pitching, working fast current with heavier jigs.
If you aren't familiar with the designation - HSR means Hot Shot Rod.
This rod was actually designed in the pacific northwest to be used to pull plugs for hot shot fishing. Hot shot plugs are heavy plugs that are commonly used when fishing for steel head and salmon. Again, the perfect use for this rod, plenty of butt strength to pull the heavier weights, but a fast enough tip to allow you to read the plug when trolling.
So, don't discount the use of the HSR 9000 for trolling applications, especially when pulling larger plugs and or deep divers. It really excels for this application, since this was the specific application that it was designed to be used for.
Take care
REW
p.s.
As long as you are buing birthday rods, don't overlook St. Croix for rods.
In particular take a look at the SC4 tournament walleye specific rods.
Many of the rods listed are the same or less price than the rods that you called out in your original list, but many of these same rods equal or exceed the fishing performance of the Loomis conterpart.
danceswithwaves
04-05-2009, 08:48 PM
Get an ugly stik and go to Rainy Lake with the savings--you will catch a lot more fish.
icedog
04-06-2009, 08:22 AM
I am not opposed to spending money on fishing rods, as I have GLX's, IMX's, Gl3's, Legend elites, Diawa steeze, Techna Av's, and the list goes on and on. Knowing all that and trying out all those thaousands of dollars worth of rods I would say you really don't have to spend it to catch more fish. The rods of today are so much better than ten years ago it is scary (and fun). Your looking at about 2.5 to 3 k in 6 rods and reels with line. You could actually get by with 150- 200 per rig and have compareable equipment (shimano crucial, quantum tourney edition, fenwick HMG, Cabelas mag touch and the list go on). Now don't let me burst your bubble if you have your heart set on this stuff by all means go for it, if fishing is your "release" then don't skimp. But you could buy some great combo's and pick up the hottest latest baits and have fun playing.
Icedog
I Walleye
04-06-2009, 07:08 PM
I am not opposed to spending money on fishing rods, as I have GLX's, IMX's, Gl3's, Legend elites, Diawa steeze, Techna Av's, and the list goes on and on. Knowing all that and trying out all those thaousands of dollars worth of rods I would say you really don't have to spend it to catch more fish. The rods of today are so much better than ten years ago it is scary (and fun). Your looking at about 2.5 to 3 k in 6 rods and reels with line. You could actually get by with 150- 200 per rig and have compareable equipment (shimano crucial, quantum tourney edition, fenwick HMG, Cabelas mag touch and the list go on). Now don't let me burst your bubble if you have your heart set on this stuff by all means go for it, if fishing is your "release" then don't skimp. But you could buy some great combo's and pick up the hottest latest baits and have fun playing.
Icedog
There is one things that separates the rods listed in the first post and this one is that the original posting rods are USA built, the shimano crucial, quantum tourney edition, fenwick HMG, Cabelas mag touch and the list go on rods are not. Maybe that's the difference the poster wants?
icedog
04-07-2009, 08:01 AM
Maybe, in that case st. croix is as good, Lamiglass would be another one (xmg 50 is my favorite). Point is I have over 10 K in fishing rods and as fun as that is the mid-range priced rods I actually like better and perform as well. For the money he is looking to spend I would then go to a custom rod guy and have them built, that is both american made and helps the little guy. One intersting point I think is that I have fished a few PWT's as an amatuer and when paired with various pros I have yet to meet one that has better rods than I do In fact the guys that consistently finish high use very mid-range stuff. Again to the original poster if you got birthday money by all means spend it on what makes you the happiest.
Icedog
take_em77
04-07-2009, 09:28 PM
I agree, I have been with several guides and tournament guides and most use mid-range gear and spend more their money to equip themselves for every possible situation. BB rods, crank rods, rig rods, jig rods, drop shot rods, handline-ing equipment, etc. You get the idea.
Equipment has come such a long way, you don't need to spend as much anymore.