: Roller trailer loading problems Part 2


plungepool
07-03-2009, 10:11 AM
Hey guys:

I know this is a similar post to Spallgard's post but I'm having some real difficulty with my trailer too.

I purchased a 2003 Lund Pro V Tiller with the IPS hull and it came with a shoreland'r roller trailer which is rated for 2300lbs. This trailer had small bunks in the front and rollers in the back. This spring I decided to change the bunks out for the XR roller upgrade, and I can't figure out the correct measurements for the front rollers as well as the back ones.

When I load the boat it wants to rub the keel on the skid plates located on the corssmembers before the front rollers will actually pick the boat up. I didn't have this problem with the bunks though. I couldn't stop raving about my shoreland'r before I did the upgrade, and now I'm ready to pull my hair out!!

I've tried everything I can think of!! I called Shoreland'r and I was told to adjust the rollers to the same distance in front as in the back. I've done that. I was also told to raise the rear cross member up. I did that too, but now instead of the boat riding low in between the fenders it rides high above the fenders and it's closer to one side than to the other. I've also noticed that it has more of a tendancy to load more to one side than to the other and also tends to lean more to the one side than to the other.

I know this might sound stupid, and I may sound like a rookie but I assure you I've never had this many problems with a roller trailer in my entire life.

My last trailer was a Karavan and It always loaded straight, so I don't get it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and if anybody lives close by the Twin cities metro area and could assist me with this I'd buy them a case of Ice cold beer for their time and energy.

Thanks

ffishman
07-03-2009, 04:59 PM
My suggestion would be to not back your trailer in so far. That way, the rollers should automatically center the boat. If that does not help, try posting some pics from the under side, maybe someone will spot something amiss.

Spallgard
07-04-2009, 12:36 AM
Man, I feel your Pain! I think that since you are converting from bunks to rollers it may be worth it (less hair-pulling) to take your boat and trailer to a dealer and pay them to set up the trailer for your boat.

If you read my post, I'm leaning towards buying another trailer altogether. One that is wider than normal so that the boat sits lower in the trailer frame. I believe my 2100 lb. trailer is too light for my boat. Your Pro-V is heavier than my Angler. A 2300 lb. trailer might be on the light side for you too when you consider batteries, gas, gear, etc.

I had a 1600 Explorer that came with a price-point trailer that was just barely adequate. It rode very high on the trailer and didn't load worth crap. I bought a wider, bigger/heavier rated roller trailer. It sat low in the frame and loaded perfectly no matter what.

You really sound frustrated... If you can swing it, I'd bite the bullet and have the Pro's do it for me.

Good Luck!


P.S. ffishman makes a good point. Back the trailer in until the rear rollers are just touching the water. It does help. Doesn't help my situation though!

Dave

plungepool
07-04-2009, 06:59 AM
I've thought about that too, but when I talked to the guy from the dealership he pretty much told me the measurements that he'd use. I guess my concern is that I'll get it back after spending the money and the work that they did wouldn't be any better than what I could do.

I think I opened a can of worms that should've been left alone. I didn't like unloading with the small bunks because when I fish alone its a pain to unload, but loading was a breeze, and it always loated straight.

I was wondering if your rear rollers tilt or are thay straight and rigid, because my are rigid and they don't tilt.

Thanks

Fishinnutt
07-05-2009, 08:27 AM
Install keel rollers on all the crossmembers. Adjust them so they carry a small amont of weight even when the boat is fully loaded on the trailer. I had the same problem and that is what eliminated it.

Hot Runr Guy
07-05-2009, 10:32 AM
I was wondering if your rear rollers tilt or are they straight and rigid, because my are rigid and they don't tilt.

Thanks

Let's see some pictures, or at least post the model # of your trailer. I'd like to get a better idea what we have to work with.
HRG
of course, you could drag it down by me, near Chicago IL, and we could see how it fits the trailer that's under my 1700 Explorer. Don't forget the beer.:cheers:

Spallgard
07-07-2009, 01:18 PM
Plungepool,

My rear roller sets pivot. They are the same type as the front roller sets.




Dave

walleyeduran
07-18-2009, 11:04 AM
The majority of the time with a roller trailer it is better to not back in so deep, but with my new rig it actualy loads better and straighter if I back in so the fender steps are atleast 4 inches under the water. Go figure but this is the only way I can keep the boat from loading heavy on the starboard side. I even measured my roller placement and they are within 1/16th of an inch.

Duran

alanexpup
07-18-2009, 11:44 AM
I would say if you cant fix it then put it back the way it was.:howdy:

yarcraft91
07-20-2009, 05:54 AM
PlungePool:

I'm not familiar with that trailer, but from the pictures I've seen, it seems the original configuration had a pair of keel rollers between the small front bunks. If those rollers are adjusted correctly, it seems the bow end of the keel should ride up on those keel rollers before the stern end drags on the rear crossmember pad. Any chance you removed the front keel rollers when you replaced the front bunks? I'm thinking the right way to adjust front rollers on that trailer is to leave the front keel rollers in place, install the front rollers and adjust their position on the crossmember until they firmly contact the boat hull. I'd leave the keel rollers in place.

But, like I say, I'm not familiar with that trailer.

dryscale
08-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Problem is, I suspect:

1. Bow is deeper than the stern. This is why the bow hits the cross member.
2. To avoid this, trailer must be deep enough such that the bow contacts the first set of rollers.

3. once the bow contacts the first set of rollers, you might have a problem. Reason is this: if the boat is listing in the water at all, when the bow first contacts the rollers, the problem already has started. Pushing the boat further ON the trailer won't help. Solution is a set of bunks or extra rollers to force the boat hull into the position.