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dealer has a 1850 fisherman w/115optimax , 75 # motorguide trolling motor 135 lor. graph. Boat is new but 2 years old, he wants $27000 for it . Does anyone know what would be the right price for this rig?
toolboy
01-19-2010, 09:46 PM
That sounds a little high to me. My dad bought the same boat new two years ago with a 150 Verado, custom cover, and let them keep the electronics and paid just over $30,000.00. A two year carry over should have a better discount.
Hot Runr Guy
01-20-2010, 07:25 AM
Before you woory too much about price, I'd water test that rig. Most all of the 1850 Fishermans listed at dealers have 150's on them, my guess is that the combo would be a lot better with a 150 V-6 or V-rod, rather than the 1.5L 115 Opti. Maybe that's why it hasn't sold in a couple of years? Especially, if those rear jump seats have a couple of "big-boys" in them, it could struggle to get going.
HRG
Agreed. 115hp isn't enough for an 1850 if you ever want to take more than one guy fishing with you. As is you'll have to prop it down to where it takes 3500rpm just to stay on plane. The price isn't bad though. To get a 2010 with a 150hp I guarantee you'll be well over $32k.
The dealer has likely been paying flooring for 2 years on that boat and is already taking a major loss. I doubt he'd let it go for much less.
flipp19585901
01-20-2010, 11:37 AM
I just bought a 1800 explorer 150 honda,2004 and paid 16,000 with only 75 hours on it
sptrix
01-20-2010, 05:08 PM
I picked up a 2006 Explorer Sport 1800 with 150 Opti and 9.9 Yamaha kicker last spring, plus two graphs and a number of other add-ons. It had about 100 hours on it. I paid $18,000.
I agree with everyone else that the 115 might be a little small. My father-in-law runs a G3 1800 with a 115 and it's a little sluggish getting up on plane, especially in rough water. The Fisherman probably is a dual console, so I'd guess your passenger won't get as wet as I get in this G3, but I do think it would be worth discussing more power with the dealer.
Last bit of advice: think about re-sale. The type of people who are interested in that kind of boat are likely the same people that would seek out advice on a forum like this. They may ultimately pass on a boat that is underpowered, or you may have to drop the price significantly to move it when the time comes. If that's a non-issue for you, then move forward. I do think the price is reasonable (maybe not cheap, but reasonable).
SPTRIX
rvrdrifter
01-21-2010, 05:39 AM
Sounds high to me also....I just went through the boat researching, buying thing and found what I consider a great deal with the help of others here on WC....I have to travel 5 hours to pick up the boat, but I saved 3,000 on the entire package compared to what any dealer here in the twin cities was willing to make me. If you'd like more info pm me and I'll fill you in.
Dodge1
01-21-2010, 08:18 AM
That 115 is the reason this 2 year old boat is still new and unless you buy it right, you'll have the dickens of a time when it comes to reselling it.
FYI, I'd hazard a guess that unless you can get it for close to, or slightly under $20k, you'll be tremendously upside down from the get go.
I agree! I think this combo is underpowered and over priced! Just my opinion!
Bob
With the way that it is rigged - and the fact that it is a 2- year old boat would make it worth $16-$18K.
It really doesn't matter what the dealer paid for it, or what he has in it.
That is about what it is worth.
Take care
REW
eyepirate
01-23-2010, 05:26 AM
geez a little sanity please..the NEW(2010) 1750 fisherman comes standard with a 90hp...150 is maximum for a 1850(not sure you can get an 1850 in 2010),i might want(need) more engine if i had a kicker and was always carrying 3 or 4 guys, but 2 guys this should be more than adequate(insist on 4 blade stainless prop),,,with the equip..(24 volt trolling motor,135 lowrance) the price is not outrageous....check around.....1825 explorers and rebels come with 115's and 1750 tyee's often have a 90..as you know lund bans its dealers from advertising 2010 boat prices online.....but a simple search of lund dealers online will give you a working idea of price and equipment of 09 and previous year boats.example 09 Lund 1850 Fisherman
$33,785.00* Red..this one has a 150...................................09 Lund 1750 Fisherman
$29,983.00* White/Silver
115ELPT4S MERC, COVER, TOP, 80 TERROVA, INFLOOR ROD STORAGE, SPARE EXTRA SEAT. Length: 17' 6''
Stock Number: LBR870
both of these come from rapid marine sports group (about as big a lund dealer that there is)..i am not advocating the purchase..just tryin to get some facts into conversation.....would i prefer a 150...yes! would i pay 6800 more to move from 115 to 150? NO.................................many dealers have 08 and 09 boats on their inventory..the economy has made it a reality..many dealers have the 08 fiberglass lunds(that have not sold) and they still hold a hard line on price.........................
Eye,
The thing that this country needs is sanity in boat pricing.
I really don't care what someone is asking for the rig, nor what someone has into it.
You are buying a year old unused boat. Hence the lower price.
As with many other things in this country, as with housing, etc. boat prices need to be readjusted to reflect the state of the country and the economy .
Why do you think that all of the Genmar boats have been sold. They weren't sold because they were making a lot of money for the owner.
Time for boat and motor manufacturers get real in their pricing in todays world.
The US is experiencing deflation - and it is time for everyone to realize it, and adjust accordingly.
Take care
REW
There'a reason it hasn't sold. If it is uderpowered, ask him if he would repower it and see what kind of deal you can get.
Thanks for the information, with info from this sight, we as purchaseres should not make any bad deals. I feel that I can always get great information from fellow fishermen who like me have made many mistakes in the past! THANKS AGAIN
northern walleye
01-24-2010, 12:25 PM
and they have been getting away it for years and years. Hopefully lately, the consumer has finally realized this. I know i have.
Eye,
The thing that this country needs is sanity in boat pricing.
I really don't care what someone is asking for the rig, nor what someone has into it.
You are buying a year old unused boat. Hence the lower price.
As with many other things in this country, as with housing, etc. boat prices need to be readjusted to reflect the state of the country and the economy .
Why do you think that all of the Genmar boats have been sold. They weren't sold because they were making a lot of money for the owner.
Time for boat and motor manufacturers get real in their pricing in todays world.
The US is experiencing deflation - and it is time for everyone to realize it, and adjust accordingly.
Take care
REW
Tim_Kelly
01-26-2010, 02:16 PM
Eye,
The thing that this country needs is sanity in boat pricing.
I really don't care what someone is asking for the rig, nor what someone has into it.
You are buying a year old unused boat. Hence the lower price.
As with many other things in this country, as with housing, etc. boat prices need to be readjusted to reflect the state of the country and the economy .
Why do you think that all of the Genmar boats have been sold. They weren't sold because they were making a lot of money for the owner.
Time for boat and motor manufacturers get real in their pricing in todays world.
The US is experiencing deflation - and it is time for everyone to realize it, and adjust accordingly.
Take care
REW
Trouble is, you want your boats and engines made in the US, so have to pay the workers who build them a US living wage. Tough to get a sale price down to walmart levels and keep a company in business.
I guess that's why they are called "luxury goods"...
Eye,
An item is worth what the market is willing to pay.
Dealers can hold a hard line on price, but if the market is not there at that price, the items will grow dusty from lack of sale.
In these days, prices are going down on many many different things.
There is no reason to believe that boat prices should reflect the current state of the very difficult economy.
Take care
REW