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AquaMan
04-19-2002, 12:26 PM
Opener is coming and a lot of you have purchased new boats. I submit this to those that might find it helpful. There are several reasons and applications for which a drift bag is beneficial. I can offer you my reasons and I’m sure there are many others that will be offered as well buy other users.

1) Walleye Chop: You have located the point, hump, weedbed or area that are holding fish. The problem is that the wind is blowing your boat over this spot too quickly for proper bait presentation. The bag can be deployed off the bow for a bow-to-the-wind drift or one off the bow AND one off the stern for a sideways drift (You can also get a side drift with one bag tied to the gunnel at the mid section of the boat). The direction of your drift (Bow or side) really depends on how many people are in the boat and/or the strength of the wind. Drifting over cover is the most popular use for the bag(s). With a slower drift, lighter tackle can be used and therefore better presentation and “feel” is the result.

2) Back trolling tight structure: You want to back troll over the structure, but are either being blown off course or the bow is swinging too much, making the task a frustrating affair. Throw the bag off the bow and this will keep things under control. The farther the bag is from the boat, the gentler your tuns will be. The converse is true of a shorter bag line. Now you can control your troll and focus on presentation and fishing rather then fighting with the wind and the boat.

3) Forward trolling with a large (80+HP) motor without a kicker/bow mount trolling motor: You want to slow the boat down for forward trolling and do have or want to use the kicker or the bow mount. Tie the bag to the front eye and, on a short line (SHORT IS THE OPERATIVE WORD), run over the bag so that is sits right under the front of the boat. You will be amazed at how well you can steer the boat in tight turns regardless of the wind. JUST DON’T forget it is there when you take off. Tie a red bandana or something to your steering wheel as a reminder.

4) Wind, river and a current: A tough combo for some to control a boat successfully. You are floating down the river, but the wind keeps spinning you around or even pushes you up current. Throw the bag off the bow or stern for a better controlled float.

Each bag is unique and will provide different benefits and results. No bag is created equal. Some are bigger for bigger boats, while others are shaped like a tube or a cone. I have tried several different types and even used 5 gal buckets. The wrong one will turn anyone off to using a bag again. Some twist the lines or deflate from the action of a wave over the top. Others are difficult to retrieve, while others are difficult to deploy while others explode at the seams from poor manufacturing. I use one that provides me with the best and easiest overall features for MY boat and style of fishing. I would be happy to get you the information if you E-mail me.

Happy fishing 2002

AquaMan~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Whoopie
04-19-2002, 01:21 PM
yawn.

Toolman
04-19-2002, 01:40 PM
Whoopie,
What's the point of your comment? You took the time to read it. The writer took the time to post info that could be useful to some people. If you didn,t like it, go away..quietly.
Tim

jigging4fish
04-19-2002, 01:55 PM
I second that motion. I thought it was a good post for new boat owners or maybe inexperienced. It's too bad people have to be that way.

Ranschau1
04-19-2002, 01:55 PM
I for one found it informative and appreciate the time spent writing this up. If I already knew this or didn't care, I'd simply click "back" and look at a different post.

By the way Aquaman--settle a dispute between my sister and myself. Can you fly like Superman or do you simply swim really, really fast and then "jump" out of the water?

This has been bugging me since I was 10.---LOL---

Mike

SnellTier
04-19-2002, 02:21 PM
Good post regarding use of the bag. I usually use my bow trolling motor but wanted to try bags this year ... I bought 2 from Gander on sale and intend to give them a workout on LOW. We have some really strong winds some days there and this might make my life easier for me and my fishing partner (my wife).

Your post was both welcome and informative. I learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

And by the way, ignore the reply from Whoopie. When he grows up he will learn how to act like an adult. At least I hope so for his future wife and kids' sakes.

Guest
04-19-2002, 02:42 PM
I thought it was a good informative post. Whoopie, take your attitude elswhere.

snaggletooth
04-19-2002, 02:46 PM
Yo Aquaman,

In addition to the 4 presentation applications you gave, drift bags can also be used as emergency anchors to survive high waves in a storm.
If your main engine cannot run or quits, and you must face high waves from wind in a storm, you can deploy the drift bag off of the bow, to hold the boat's bow facing into the wind during the storm. This way, high waves don't keep washing over the side gunwales of the boat, filling it with water.

Chuck C.

PS, So far, I've only used mine for slowing my drifts.

RAM
04-19-2002, 06:22 PM
Thanks AquaMan
Good information and I want to try it. Question though – what size bag? Something not too big maybe. For sometime now, I have been going to ask this very question how to do it with out getting all messed up. I fish out of a Lund 1750 Tyee with 135 Mercury and can’t spring for a kicker at this time so will give this a try.

Richard Myers

Den
04-19-2002, 07:10 PM
Ram, the size for your boat , depending on the manufacturer, should have a 22 inch opening on the big end. and that was a good post too. good luck and good fishin.
Den

samIam
04-19-2002, 07:51 PM
Where I'm from, a bag is essential equipment. I honestly don't know a single fisherman that doesn't use them. Thanks for the great ideas regarding trolling with the bag on the bow eye. I never thought of that. Also the emrgency use of it on the bow is a great idea as well.

Finding the right sie bag depends alot on the style of boat you have. Deep, flat sided boats with modest deadrise on the hull (Lund Fisherman) need more than the prescribed size in the Cabela's catalog and two bags is the way to go on windier days. A single 22" bag works great on shallower sided, steeper boats of 18' and less.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
04-19-2002, 09:13 PM
for a second I thought I was reading about 18 of the last 20 Walleye Insiders, then I realized no it is just somebody repeating the same generic information....but like it was something they had invented.

TEX
04-19-2002, 09:38 PM
Great post AquaMan!!!!!!!!!
DAN MILLER JR.
#989

River_eye
04-19-2002, 09:44 PM
I doubt I'll get around to purchasing one just yet, but we have a lot of 5 gal. pails around. I assume you have to poke holes in the bottom? If so, how many?

RiverRat
04-19-2002, 10:55 PM
Well, it was news to me. Maybe you ought to look at it from someone else's perspective ... someone who has not read the last 20 Walleye Insiders ... and therefore appreciates the time and effort it took to make that posting. Your snyde and condescending comment was not appropriate.

Dave G
04-20-2002, 05:51 AM
Good post - I tried one with a LONGER rope off the bow -- uggggggggg -- you can not make sharp turns. It becomes very nasty in in crowded situatiuons. Good suggestion on keeping the rope short.

Thnaks
Dave Gulczinski

Hawgeye
04-20-2002, 07:58 AM
Hey Mr ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz,alias Whoopie, why don't you find a sport that doesn't take more skill than your mind has the ability for...like tying your shoes.

Hawgeye
04-20-2002, 08:06 AM
5 gallon pails work excellent. Tie them off the bow cleats, have the rope just long enough to allow the pail to fully submerge. No holes needed. Preferably use one on each side but one will work for slowing your troll. The drift anchor just stores much better. I use the pails because they are good garbage cans when not used, work good as toilets in a pinch, (no pun intended) and can be used to transport stuff between the boat and cleaning station, boat and tow vehicle etc...

Can you think of anything with more uses than 5 gallon pails and duct tape?

AquaMan
04-22-2002, 06:52 AM
I am glad that most of you found this useful. The words are mine based on many years of using a variety of drift control products.

The emergency use is >>> Extremely <<< important and demonstrates the quality information that is shared on this site. Thanks for that info "SamIam".

I use 2 bags in my boat and both are 30". I have a smaller 16' Lund Scout (Explorer). Having tried several types, the smaller mouths did not provide enough drag when needed. I would not go smaller then 30" and maybe even a 40" would be better for the 17-19' boats.

Check them out: http://www.driftbag.com

AquaMan~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just add water

AquaMan
04-22-2002, 06:59 AM
No, I just summon all the fish to my boat. hahahaha. ;-)

AquaMan~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just add water