Remington bolt action 22

[rebs]

I came across this rifle and when I went to load it I found that when you close the bolt with a 22 long rifle cartridge in it, it closes kind of hard like it is pushing the nose of the bullet into the rifling in the barrel. It doesn't do this with a regular 22 cartridge, long or short.
The barrle is marked 22 long rifle.

Has anyone ever seen this type thing ? It is a nice rifle, all hand checkered etc. beautiful wood

[yarcraft91]

If this is a used rifle, it's possible the previous owner shot a lot of CB caps, shorts or longs and created some lead deposits in the barrel end of the chamber. Get a brass .22 brush and give the chamber a thorough scrubbing.

[Manxfishing]

It's really hrad to figure out over the internet
And being a firearm. Why not play it safe and have a gunsmith look at it.

[buck snort]

Clean the heck out of it. Get some high quality gun cleaner, not something like Hoppe's #9. Try Shooter's Choice or somethin along those lines.

The chamber and action are probably real dirty from previous lack of maintenance.

[rebs]

I checked the chamber and the barrel with a bore light and they are clean in fact the entire gun is extremely clean and in like brand new condition. I bought it at an estate sale for 30.00
I bought it because it looks like brand new and it is in a nice case with a Leupold scope.

[luredaddy]

Is it a target rifle by chance? Many people buy the lighter models, scope them and use them for hunting. Target rifles oftentimes have much tighter chambers.
John

[yarcraft91]

From your description, perhaps that rifle has a "match" chamber, which is smaller (both length and inside diameter) than a typical .22 sport rifle. If so, you might have a very fine shooter.

[rebs]

on the barrel it says Remington 541-S custom sporter

[Hot Runr Guy]

Bob, if it really bothers you, I'll take it off your hands for $35. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=192711963
Hahahahahahaha!
Terry

[rebs]

Bob, if it really bothers you, I'll take it off your hands for $35. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=192711963
Hahahahahahaha!
Terry

wow what makes it worth so much ?

[skeeter]

Good buy Bob. Unreal. Good job.

[Buck Snort]

on the barrel it says Remington 541-S custom sporter

I believe that is a target grade rifle as other suggested it may be.

[rebs]

Good buy Bob. Unreal. Good job.

It was leaning against a wall in the estate sale with a tag on it for $30.00
I also picked up another Berkley Gary Roach signature series telescopic rod with an abu garcia
5500 bait caster on it for 20.00, it is like new also.
A plastic medium size tackle box with various quickfish and spoons, 3 way swivels, snaps and other odds and ends for 10.00
These were the prices they had marked on the items. I went there because the ad said fishing stuff and that was all they had in fishing stuff, then I seen the 22 and could not resist buying it. I had no idea how much the gun is worth, but I knew the leupold scope had to be worth more than 30.00 alone.

[yarcraft91]

wow what makes it worth so much ?

The combination of quality and limited availability- apparently, it has become a collector's item.
http://www.remington.com/products/archived/rimfire/bolt-action/model-541.aspx

Please let me know the next time the same people organize an estate sale. :)

[skeeter]

Bet someone was suppose to put 300.00 on it instead of 30.00. Had that happen a few times myself but never did get as good of a deal as you got. lol

[yarcraft91]

Bet someone was suppose to put 300.00 on it instead of 30.00. Had that happen a few times myself but never did get as good of a deal as you got. lol

Naw, Skeeter- $30 is probably what the recently-deceased told his wife that rifle cost new! :rotfl:

[skeeter]

OH heck yes. Didn't think of that. I hope my wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I tell her it costs. Just like this rifle some will get some GREAT deals. Good example of what happens to you stuff after you pass. hahaha I bet your right. Skeeter

[Noah Cantell]

Gun Broker has one sold that started at $800.00

Go back to her and give her more money. Other than that - and you better do it, or God will get ya for not! - Have it head spaced by a gunsmith.

Clean it from the rear (of course you know that). Take a cleaning brush and put it in an electric drill to be run on slow speed only in the chamber. Slow means slow. Don't want friction fires.

[Phil T]

Try a different brand of ammunition. Even 22 LR's have different nose shapes, that's why differentrifles prefer different brands. Since it's a Remmington, try that brand.

[rebs]

I did go back over this morning and talked to the son, it is him and the daughter doing the estate sale. I explained to him about finding out what the rifle is worth and he said he knew it was worth more than 30.00, but they just wanted to sell it because neither he nor his sister had any interest in it, he has small children and he didn't want a gun in his house. When I told him it seems to be worth between 500 and 800, all he said was well you got a good deal, enjoy it. From the looks of the house, furnishing's and vehicle's, I doubt anyone in that family has any money problems. As I was leaving he called to me and said wait a minute, i went back and he handed me two boxes of 22 shells and a cleaning kit that he had forgotten about.
I was glad I went back and talked to him, it made me feel better and I will enjoy the rifle with a clear conscience that I didn't swindle anyone. I didn't feel bad when I bought it, I paid what they were asking, but I have to admit it did bother me after I found out how much more it is worth. When I bought it I figured it might be worth 100 maybe 150, and I got a good deal after all I did pay what they wanted I didn't ask them to take less. But after finding out its value I did feel kind of like I took advantage of them. But I didn't know the value at the time.
Well I talked to him and he is happy and I should be happy too. Right ? I have been taken advantage of a couple times in my life and didn't like it and I didn't want to be guilty of taking advantage of anyone else.

[PRD1]

You have taken steps most would not have taken to make sure they are satisfied with what they got. Enjoy the rifle and maybe some time in the future you can "pass it on" as the saying goes. One good turn deserves another.

[dutchboy]

rebs, you get the "good guy, two thumbs up" award!!

Sleep well my friend, you earned it by your actions.

[rebs]

I took the rifle to the gun center this morning and had it checked by a gun smith. He said he rated it at mint condition for appearance, function and bore is excellent. He also said the bolt closing a little hard was because the design of the chamber allows the nose of the bullet to partially engage the rifling when closing the bolt. Something about it makes the rifle more accurate because the bullet starts right in the rifling when it is fired and doesn't jump a gap to the rifling. It also has an adjustable trigger. He also said this model ie extremely accurate.

[skeeter]

Bob, this story tells a lot about you. Respect, honestly, caring, and moral conscience are words that describe you. Most would never do what you did that is for sure. Good job Rebs! :) Nels

[Nick Kanauz]

Rebs-

From the sounds of what you are experiencing when you are chambering a round is one of two things. It is still in "new" shape, meaning that it isn't even broken in yet. Most barrels take a couple hundred rounds to season and seat properly, or if it has had a lot of rounds through it, the chamber may have a leading problem. It sometimes will not show and still look like it's new. Hoppe's Barrel Solvent should take care of the problem. However, make sure that you don't get any on the finish, or leave it on the blued outside of the barrel. It will stain the blueing. Because the long rifle round is longer, the bolt may not have had time to "smooth" out either. Remove it, and run the slide to see if there might be burrs on it. Also...I've always had the best luck with Federal Cartridges for all of my weapons. Hope this helps!

[Jerryv]

Yarcrafts reply was the correct answer. The chamber is dirty from shooting too many shorts in it. You need to clean it out with a .22 brass brush. There is probably one in the cleaning kit you got.

I bought a 513T at an auction a couple of years ago with the same problem. A little #9 and a few strokes with a brass brush and it was good as new.

The "gunsmith" that told you it was made that way should look for a new job. Only custom made target rifles have chambers that are short enough to engrave the rifling into the bullet.

Jerry

[yarcraft91]

Only custom made target rifles have chambers that are short enough to engrave the rifling into the bullet.

Jerry

Now that we have heard more about the rifle, I believe rebs has a custom target rifle, not a fouled chamber.

[bigwalleye1]

...and now that we've heard the "back story" I would suggest Reb's new rifle is in the hands of someone who truly deserves it. Classy move, Rebs. You'd be welcome in my boat anytime.

[rebs]

Yarcraft
I believe you are right, the gunsmith I took it to is a very reputable and knowledgeable man and has been in buisness for over 30 years. I asked him if he would give it a good cleaning and he said it is clean as a whistle now, barrel, chamber, bolt etc..

[Jerryv]

Now that we have heard more about the rifle, I believe rebs has a custom target rifle, not a fouled chamber.

I don't think so. A custom would not have the information roll marked into the barrel.

If you look at the auction that HRG referenced;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=192711963

you will see some pictures of the same model 541-S. It was one of Remingtons nicest .22's and not very common. With the engraving and rosewood grip cap, forend tip, and butt plate it was fairly expensive. They also made a target version (541-T) with a heavy barrel and a target stock.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=198634082


Jerry

[yarcraft91]

I don't think so. A custom would not have the information roll marked into the barrel.
It was the word "Custom" stamped on the barrel that fooled me. :)