: Can downrigger rods be used to pull dipseys?


Lundexp
05-25-2011, 04:33 PM
Can downrigger rods be used to pull dipsey divers or do pulling dipseys require a "dipsey" rod? I already have 8'-6" medium downrigger rods and don't want to have to buy "dipsey" rods just to use couple times a year

frogmaster
05-25-2011, 04:46 PM
Um... not really. It is a matter of Dipsey Size and Rod Size (More importantly the Back Bone of the rod). I remember using 8'6" Medium Ugly Stick Rods that make great down rigger rods and threw on a Dipsey.... the Rod held but was buckled nearly in half (scary). Shimano make a Great Dipsey Rod for not a whole lot of $$$. I've learned this Fishing Salmon on Lake Michigan :rock-on:.

Papascott
05-25-2011, 05:00 PM
My dipsey rods are ugly stick 8'3"bwd, big water downrigger. I use dipseys alot both walleye and salmon. So yes rigger rods can be used for diver rods if they're the right rigger rod.

Neil Simmons
05-25-2011, 05:35 PM
Scott, I think yours are the MDS1186 model.

I know a few guys that use the BWD1101 rods for Dipsys and boards. They're a little flimsy for those applications to me, but they like them.

walleyedmike
05-25-2011, 06:12 PM
These are actually pretty nice for $35.00.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Fishing-Rods/Trolling-Rods%7C/pc/104793480/c/104764680/sc/104656680/Cabelas-DepthMaster-Trolling-Rods/727531.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffishi ng-fishing-rods-trolling-rods%2F_%2FN-1100301%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104656680%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat1047 93480%253Bcat104764680&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104793480%3Bcat104764680%3Bcat104 656680

K Gonefishin
05-25-2011, 06:27 PM
Ive done it when I forgot mine at home, I used 8 ft heartlands. worked fine, heartlands have a soft blank throughout. but honostly you can buy a diver rod for 20 bucks if you look hard enough.

rebs
05-25-2011, 06:37 PM
I have Daiwa heartland rods in 8'6" and 9'6" I use them all for down rigging and dypsy divers, I also use them trolling for muskies.

JinxCanada
05-25-2011, 07:33 PM
yup. Daiwa Heartlands, Okuma 8 6" and Shimano TDR's are all great for both

Boatnut
05-26-2011, 10:16 AM
couple of times a year, you should be ok. Give them a try, if they break in half, you know they won't work :)

Papascott
05-26-2011, 10:36 AM
Right you are Neil they are Mooching/Downrigger rods. Almost bought the bwd because the mds were unavailable.

Lundexp
05-27-2011, 04:42 PM
The rigger rods I have are Okuma 8'-6" Classic Pro downrigger rods. Probably just go ahead and buy some dipsey rods as well

REW
05-28-2011, 07:28 AM
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Fish-Eagle174-II-Trolling-Rods/739019.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3D searchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProduc ts%26Ntt%3Ddipsy%2Brod%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=dipsy+rod&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

If you look at this list and see the difference between the trolling and the dipsy rods - it is simply power.

i.e. the downrigger rods are long and very flexible and typically medium power.

The dipsy rods are heavier, typically a medium heavy rod.

For dipsy now and then use, you can pick up about any medium heavy rod that you want with a trigger handle and decent reel seat and be fine.

Good luck
REW

p.s.
For example the whupping stick at the end of the page in the 9 foot mh would make an ok rod for dipsys.
These thupping sticks are glass and virtually unbreakable.


http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Whuppin-Stick174-Casting-Rods/702011.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D%26Ns%3DMI N_SALE_PRICE%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dmh%2Brod% 26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchall%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSea rch-All%2BProducts%26WTz_stype%3DSN%26form_state%3Dsea rchForm%26search%3Dmh%2Brod&Ntt=mh+rod&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

waz jr
05-28-2011, 08:17 AM
I use my down rigger rods with dipsey no problem. Been doing it for years. Fish don't know the difference. Is it a down rigger rod used for a dipsey or a dipsey rod used for down rigging. The manufactures put the names on the rods to sell us more rods. I use 9 foot eagle claw yellow rods. don't know the model number off hnad but been using that style for at least twenty years. I also only use the large size dipsey on Lake Michigan for salmon with heavy duty power pro.

Hombre Robusto
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
You can use any rod you want for any technique. Whether it will perform well for that technique is the question. If I had a dollar for every rod I've purchased only to find out I did not like it for a specific way of fishing, I'd be a rich man.

Two seasons ago, I tried the Ugly Stik CAL 1100 7' medium action rods after Juls recommended them. I've used them for pulling boards, Dipsys, Jets, and down riggers. They perform extremely well at all of these. In my opinion, they are the perfect rod. At $29 each, they can't be beat. Being a shorter rod, they'll fit in any rod locker, and make netting a lot easier than an eight foot or longer rod.

reeleyeable
05-29-2011, 06:21 AM
Conditions can dictate what you can get away with sometimes. Once all I had was dipsey rods in the boat and I wanted to run small boards. It was almost dead calm so no surge to launch the boards, it worked fine. I would not try that in 2-3's. If its calm, try it.